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This guy had every advantage in the world, no one going to that movie expected an ambush, heck, the police didn't even expect problems. The worst thing about this is the attacker has the advantage in situations like this, he had the prior knowledge of what he would do exclusively and planned the whole thing out. Just flat out disgusting.Unless Colorado has a law making carrying a gun illegal,
unless there was no one in the theater with a concealed carry permit,
then it does not follow that more liberal gun laws would have put a stop to the shooting.
This guy had every advantage in the world, no one going to that movie expected an ambush, heck, the police didn't even expect problems. The worst thing about this is the attacker has the advantage in situations like this, he had the prior knowledge of what he would do exclusively and planned the whole thing out. Just flat out disgusting.
This guy had every advantage in the world, no one going to that movie expected an ambush, heck, the police didn't even expect problems. The worst thing about this is the attacker has the advantage in situations like this, he had the prior knowledge of what he would do exclusively and planned the whole thing out. Just flat out disgusting.
Agreed. Of course that has nothing to do with gun policy. If more people had guns in the theater it could have just as likely been worse than better. What would have mattered wouldn't have been the number of guns but the person who had a gun. If every person in that theater was armed but an idiot at using a gun then we can be pretty certain that it would not have been a better situation. Simply owning a gun doesn't make someone qualified to use it.
This guy had every advantage in the world, no one going to that movie expected an ambush, heck, the police didn't even expect problems. The worst thing about this is the attacker has the advantage in situations like this, he had the prior knowledge of what he would do exclusively and planned the whole thing out. Just flat out disgusting.
I honestly would have thought something was up just for the fact that this movie didn't need any gimmicks, it was expected to do well. However I certainly can see why people at first would think the opposite, movies for the longest time have run promotions of all sorts.Although the trailer has now been yanked, one of the previews before the movie began showed a gunman shooting people in a darkened theater. According to one witness, when the gunman came back in the door, he thought what was being tossed were fake bats. People thought this was a hoax, a joke.
Bodies of dead removed from Aurora theater; 12 killed, 58 wounded - The Denver Post
Correct. You also can't guarantee that you won't get hit by a car. Or that you won't slip in the bathtub. Life has risks. I'm not saying that an armed veteran or three would have changed the course of events for the better, but it's silly to suggest that, in a gunfight, the best possible scenario is for one side to be unarmed.properly trained marksman or not you can not guarentee that a stray bullet will not hit an innocent in a situation like that. Too many factors at play to be able to say outright that a marksman would of been able to end the situation safely.
Yep. I think if we started to look at things like medications and trying to revive the nuclear family we could alleviate some of the problems, but even then I don't know how to accomplish that. I definitely don't want lockdowns everywhere I go and assume no one else wants that either.and its just not somthing we can stop! If sick people want to carry out these kind of events we will always struggle to stop them unless of course we start posting armed police at cinemas, schools etc which I think most people on here would agree is a step in the wrong direction. The US would start to become more like the UK with CCTV on every cornor (big brother watching your every move).
Yep. I think if we started to look at things like medications and trying to revive the nuclear family we could alleviate some of the problems, but even then I don't know how to accomplish that. I definitely don't want lockdowns everywhere I go and assume no one else wants that either.
Correct. You also can't guarantee that you won't get hit by a car. Or that you won't slip in the bathtub. Life has risks. I'm not saying that an armed veteran or three would have changed the course of events for the better, but it's silly to suggest that, in a gunfight, the best possible scenario is for one side to be unarmed.
Some would prefer to be led like cows to the slaughter, and that is their right. I would prefer to defend my life, also my right.
I honestly would have thought something was up just for the fact that this movie didn't need any gimmicks, it was expected to do well. However I certainly can see why people at first would think the opposite, movies for the longest time have run promotions of all sorts.
im a vet and if I was in that Cinema my first concern would of been my family and getting them to safety, Its hard to put myself in their shoes but I dont think I could of started engaging the gunmen until I got my family out of there.
I read this online and I think it's spot on:
"The proliferation of guns, the lack of access to mental health services, a pervasive sense of isolation, glorification of violence in our society all create conditions that lead to such tragedies."
All the rest is meaningless and there is the answer
There were a half dozen active military and reservists in the theater. But, a crazy person.. a criminal always has the advantage.
I believe Mr. Holmes may have had schizophrenia or some other mental illness which manifests itself in delusional thinking. He was isolative and withdrawn so it would have been difficult to detect and treat as he was not demonstrably violent or obtuse until this incident. He had stated he was the "Joker" as reported by the authorities.
I also generally agree with the above statement.
I've also read that some theater-goers also wore costumes. If so, this could've added to the confusion. (I thought people only dressed up for "Rocky Horror.")
There were a half dozen active military and reservists in the theater. But, a crazy person.. a criminal always has the advantage.
if this guy is proven to be the killer should his organs be harvested to pay the victims back?..
The military and reservists were on leave, relaxing .... not fair to them or to anybody in that theater .... had they not been on leave the end story would have been different!
Criminals not always have the advantage!
that would violate the Constitution's prohibition of cruel & unusual punishments.
I disagree.. because they are in a different zone.. They have a plan and a weapon. I don't anticipate a crime every time I go to the bank or the grocery store or go for a walk or to the movies.
well when the constitution was written he would have been hanged for this
in the federal system he would be executed so death is not cruel and unusual
so lets hang him (rather than frying or poisoning his organs) and then sell them off to help the victims
that doesn't violate the constitution
The military and reservists were on leave, relaxing .... not fair to them or to anybody in that theater .... had they not been on leave the end story would have been different!
Criminals not always have the advantage!
exactly they are sitting with their family enjoying a film and when the gunfire starts those men/women are trying to get out and protect their families. You can train for war but nothing can prepare you for that.
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