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Grand jury indicts 4 allegedly linked to white supremacy group, accused in attacks at rallies

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Apparently, at least one white supremist group is being indicted for inciting and planning riots at rallies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-linked-white-supremacy-group-accused-n930131

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An indictment says the Rise Above Movement represents itself as a "combat-ready, militant group of a new nationalist white supremacy/identity movement."
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A federal grand jury in California returned indictments Thursday against four men allegedly linked to what has been called a white supremacy group who are accused of planning and engaging in riots at right-wing political rallies in the state, prosecutors said.

Robert Rundo, 28, who is accused of being a founding member of the Rise Above Movement, as well as three other men — Robert Boman, 25; Tyler Laube, 22; and Aaron Eason, 38, are charged with one count of conspiracy, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California said in a statement.

Rundo, Boman and Eason were also indicted on one count of rioting, federal prosecutors said.
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RAMOSS said:
combat-ready, militant group of a new nationalist white supremacy/identity movement
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That's a mouthful. Can't they just say angry white guys? Why are all these racist groups so politically correct!!!!!!!!!
 
RAMOSS said:
Apparently, at least one white supremist group is being indicted for inciting and planning riots at rallies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-linked-white-supremacy-group-accused-n930131

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If only federal investigators had been as zealous 50 years ago when traitors like Bill Ayers were bombing federal buildings and threatening to destroy the US government. And Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn were not just planning attacks - they carried them out. Bill Ayers is now a privilege old white 'cracker' living the life of luxury after amassing a virtual government grant fortune for his 'work' influencing kids in Chicago's public schools.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Please show how any of these people are connected to Trump. You said they're Trumps people. So show how they are connected to Trump.
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It's a safe bet who they voted for, Kal.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Please show how any of these people are connected to Trump. You said they're Trumps people. So show how they are connected to Trump.
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Trump has no problem insulting others on a daily basis, but rarely, if ever, says anything negative about people like this. Funny how that is.
 
marke said:
If only federal investigators had been as zealous 50 years ago when traitors like Bill Ayers were bombing federal buildings and threatening to destroy the US government. And Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn were not just planning attacks - they carried them out. Bill Ayers is now a privilege old white 'cracker' living the life of luxury after amassing a virtual government grant fortune for his 'work' influencing kids in Chicago's public schools.
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Yeah, I don’t think any of these investigators were born yet. ;)
 
Kal'Stang said:
Please show how any of these people are connected to Trump. You said they're Trumps people. So show how they are connected to Trump.
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.. the Rise Above Movement, is a loose collective of violent neo-Nazis and fascists from Southern California that’s organized and trains primarily to engage in fighting and violence at political rallies. They have been a central participant in the recent wave of far-Right protest movements in California during the first half of 2017 which have attempted to mobilize a broad range of right-wing constituents under the banners of protecting so-called 'free speech,' unyielding support for Trump, and antipathy toward Muslims, immigrants and other oppressed groups.
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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/rise-above-movement

:lamo Easy peasy!

They are Trump's people by showing their unyielding support for him.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
So, Person/Group A supports Person B and that means that Person/Group A is automatically Person B's "people"?

Tell me Americanwoman, do you apply that same nonsense to Antifa? Islamic extremists? ANYONE that isn't Trump?
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um yeah, of course I would apply it all around. If a group tells me they have unyielding support to antifa or isis and neither of them denounce the group, I would consider them to be their peoples.

Donald Trump has yet to denounce white supremacy so when a white supremacist group declares unyielding support for him, I consider them to be Trump's people.

Are you going to tell me if some group tell you they have unyielding support for ISIS/Antifa you are not going to connect them to ISIS/Antifa? I find that harder to believe than connecting a group to who they support.
 
americanwoman said:
um yeah, of course I would apply it all around. If a group tells me they have unyielding support to antifa or isis and neither of them denounce the group, I would consider them to be their peoples.

Donald Trump has yet to denounce white supremacy so when a white supremacist group declares unyielding support for him, I consider them to be Trump's people.

Are you going to tell me if some group tell you they have unyielding support for ISIS/Antifa you are not going to connect them to ISIS/Antifa? I find that harder to believe than connecting a group to who they support.
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There's a problem with what you said here. Trump HAS denounced white supremacy. Multiple times. He doesn't even want their votes as he said in the following video.



Now...are they his people? Or are you going to admit that they're not?
 
americanwoman said:
um yeah, of course I would apply it all around. If a group tells me they have unyielding support to antifa or isis and neither of them denounce the group, I would consider them to be their peoples.

Donald Trump has yet to denounce white supremacy so when a white supremacist group declares unyielding support for him, I consider them to be Trump's people.

Are you going to tell me if some group tell you they have unyielding support for ISIS/Antifa you are not going to connect them to ISIS/Antifa? I find that harder to believe than connecting a group to who they support.
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Just because Trump may not go far enough in denouncing fringe hate groups does not make him guilty of endorsing those hate groups. Look at Obama for comparison. He did not go far enough in denouncing radical Muslim terrorism, Black Lives Matter cop killing, racist Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam hatred of whites, and so forth.
 
marke said:
Just because Trump may not go far enough in denouncing fringe hate groups does not make him guilty of endorsing those hate groups. Look at Obama for comparison. He did not go far enough in denouncing radical Muslim terrorism, Black Lives Matter cop killing, racist Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam hatred of whites, and so forth.
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Yes and all those groups are associated with Obama, not Trump, or no?
 
Kal'Stang said:
There's a problem with what you said here. Trump HAS denounced white supremacy. Multiple times. He doesn't even want their votes as he said in the following video.



Now...are they his people? Or are you going to admit that they're not?
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I'm not going to believe what a liar says. Sure, he may denounce it when pushed about it but his other actions and words contradict that, just like every single else that comes out of his mouth. Why else do you think such a group endorses him?
 
americanwoman said:
I'm not going to believe what a liar says. Sure, he may denounce it when pushed about it but his other actions and words contradict that, just like every single else that comes out of his mouth. Why else do you think such a group endorses him?
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Well put.
 
americanwoman said:
I'm not going to believe what a liar says. Sure, he may denounce it when pushed about it but his other actions and words contradict that, just like every single else that comes out of his mouth. Why else do you think such a group endorses him?
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That's what I thought. Your "complaint" that he never denounced white supremacy was nothing more than a talking point. You have no leg to stand on in this discussion.
 
RAMOSS said:
That does not sound like a rational or coherent thought.
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so it is more irrational to blame others for your poor choices and support for violent behavior when you don't get your way? Oregon is exactly where you belong
 
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