Govt Minister reveals plan to kill plans forever of a Palestinian state.

[Infinite Chaos]

Ah, but we're told he's just a nobody / has no say etc etc but suddenly Smotrich has revealed plans for even more illegal settlements with the sole aim of getting Palestinians / arabs out of their land in the West Bank and as I have said many times as well as in this thread - this is all for the creation of Greater Israel.

Israeli far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has said plans to build more than 3,000 homes in a controversial
settlement project in the occupied West Bank will "bury the idea of a Palestinian state".

The so-called E1 project between Jerusalem and the Maale Adumim settlement has been frozen for decades amid fierce
opposition internationally. Building there would effectively cut off the West Bank from occupied East Jerusalem
and significantly obstruct its territorial contiguity.

Smotrich said it would thwart the idea of a Palestinian state "because there is nothing to recognise and no one to recognise".​

Israeli settlement plans will 'bury' idea of Palestinian state, minister says

Far-right Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich announced approval for 3,401 new homes in the controversial E1 area project in the occupied West Bank.

www.bbc.com

So, how do we see this statement about these ongoing plans"

"This is Zionism at its best - building, settling and strengthening our sovereignty in the Land of Israel."​

At its best? To me, this should be the final nail in the minds of anyone who has any doubts about what Israel and the government are up to as well as the possible repercussions when more and more arabs end up getting kicked off their land.

 

[Mr Person]

That guy and Ben-Gvir are the most vile.

 

[bongsaway]

Read the article before you jump on here complaining about Hamas. The west bank is Palestinian property, Israel took it over after the six day war and held onto it illegally since. As a matter of fact, one could argue all of Israel was at one time Palestinian lands.

 

[Napoleon]

Read the article before you jump on here complaining about Hamas. The west bank is Palestinian property, Israel took it over after the six day war and held onto it illegally since. As a matter of fact, one could argue all of Israel was at one time Palestinian lands.

One could not argue that. There was no such thing as an independent Palestine until the colonial powers made the egregious error of creating it in 1948.

 

[Tigerace117]

One could not argue that. There was no such thing as an independent Palestine until the colonial powers made the egregious error of creating it in 1948.

So what? There was no such thing as an independent America until 1776. Israel doesn’t get to ignore international law because it really, really, really wants to steal its neighbors’ land.

 

[Napoleon]

So what? There was no such thing as an independent America until 1776. Israel doesn’t get to ignore international law because it really, really, really wants to steal its neighbors’ land.

Israel doesn’t have to tolerate being brutalized by a terrorist State indefinitely. The Palestinian experiment is over and they have no one but themselves to blame.

 

[Tigerace117]

Israel doesn’t have to tolerate being brutalized by a terrorist State indefinitely. The Palestinian experiment is over and they have no one but themselves to blame.

By that standard there was absolutely nothing wrong about the Arab nations invading in 1948 given Israel itself was a “terrorist state”.

Unfortunately for America, simply declaring that doesn’t make it so.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

One could not argue that. There was no such thing as an independent Palestine until the colonial powers made the egregious error of creating it in 1948.

There was no independent Israel either

 

[Napoleon]

There was no independent Israel either

Not for a few thousand years, no. But that’s still more than the Palestinians can claim and partial restoration of the historical Jewish homeland was some recompense for the Holocaust. The only reason the Palestinians were given a state for the first time in history is because they couldn’t play nice in the sandbox with Jews. And that has proven their undoing.

 

[bomberfox]

Ah, but we're told he's just a nobody / has no say etc etc but suddenly Smotrich has revealed plans for even more illegal settlements with the sole aim of getting Palestinians / arabs out of their land in the West Bank and as I have said many times as well as in this thread - this is all for the creation of Greater Israel.

Israeli far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has said plans to build more than 3,000 homes in a controversial
settlement project in the occupied West Bank will "bury the idea of a Palestinian state".

The so-called E1 project between Jerusalem and the Maale Adumim settlement has been frozen for decades amid fierce
opposition internationally. Building there would effectively cut off the West Bank from occupied East Jerusalem
and significantly obstruct its territorial contiguity.

Smotrich said it would thwart the idea of a Palestinian state "because there is nothing to recognise and no one to recognise".​

Israeli settlement plans will 'bury' idea of Palestinian state, minister says

Far-right Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich announced approval for 3,401 new homes in the controversial E1 area project in the occupied West Bank.

www.bbc.com

So, how do we see this statement about these ongoing plans"

"This is Zionism at its best - building, settling and strengthening our sovereignty in the Land of Israel."​

At its best? To me, this should be the final nail in the minds of anyone who has any doubts about what Israel and the government are up to as well as the possible repercussions when more and more arabs end up getting kicked off their land.

Its always been a lie. Its amazing people still think its a “not enforcing it to my liking” issue. Its bullshit but we have to swallow it.

 

[bomberfox]

Israel doesn’t have to tolerate being brutalized by a terrorist State indefinitely. The Palestinian experiment is over and they have no one but themselves to blame.

Well keep pushing the settlements and eventually the US and Israel will be paraiahs. Turns out ya cant always get what you want. The PA did not commit oct 7th yet they are still dealing with settler colonialism. These are the exact excuses south africa gave. Nuttyahoo admitted to sabotaging oslo. Its either restart the negotiations with the PA, keep losing more Israelis to this senseless settler colonialist project, or become a pariah.

 

[Napoleon]

Well keep pushing the settlements and eventually the US and Israel will be paraias. Turns out ya cant always get what you want.

The rest of the world will get over it soon enough.

 

[Rexedgar]

Not for a few thousand years, no. But that’s still more than the Palestinians can claim and partial restoration of the historical Jewish homeland was some recompense for the Holocaust. The only reason the Palestinians were given a state for the first time in history is because they couldn’t play nice in the sandbox with Jews. And that has proven their undoing.

“Recompense for the Holocaust” should have netted Bavaria.

 

[Napoleon]

“Recompense for the Holocaust” should have netted Bavaria.

Should have, could have, would have. Refugees of the Holocaust were even less interested in sticking around as Europe and America were in having them.

 

[Ikari]

Ah, but we're told he's just a nobody / has no say etc etc but suddenly Smotrich has revealed plans for even more illegal settlements with the sole aim of getting Palestinians / arabs out of their land in the West Bank and as I have said many times as well as in this thread - this is all for the creation of Greater Israel.

Israeli far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich has said plans to build more than 3,000 homes in a controversial
settlement project in the occupied West Bank will "bury the idea of a Palestinian state".

The so-called E1 project between Jerusalem and the Maale Adumim settlement has been frozen for decades amid fierce
opposition internationally. Building there would effectively cut off the West Bank from occupied East Jerusalem
and significantly obstruct its territorial contiguity.

Smotrich said it would thwart the idea of a Palestinian state "because there is nothing to recognise and no one to recognise".​

Israeli settlement plans will 'bury' idea of Palestinian state, minister says

Far-right Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich announced approval for 3,401 new homes in the controversial E1 area project in the occupied West Bank.

www.bbc.com

So, how do we see this statement about these ongoing plans"

"This is Zionism at its best - building, settling and strengthening our sovereignty in the Land of Israel."​

At its best? To me, this should be the final nail in the minds of anyone who has any doubts about what Israel and the government are up to as well as the possible repercussions when more and more arabs end up getting kicked off their land.

Netanyahu has always been against a two-state solution. That's why he championed Hamas as leaders for Palestine, he believed Hamas would never accept a two-state solution either.

 

[Tigerace117]

The rest of the world will get over it soon enough.

The rest of the world sure didn’t get over apartheid South Africa’s actions… much to Israel’s horror.

 

[Napoleon]

The rest of the world sure didn’t get over apartheid South Africa’s actions… much to Israel’s horror.

Sure it did. The UK is hardly a pariah.

 

[Aristaeus]

Israel doesn’t have to tolerate being brutalized by a terrorist State indefinitely. The Palestinian experiment is over and they have no one but themselves to blame.

The West Bank is governed by Fatah which recognises Israel's right to exist and doesn't attack it.
Of course that fact doesn't stop Israel from stealing their land and killing their citizens.

 

[Tigerace117]

Sure it did. The UK is hardly a pariah.

South Africa implemented apartheid on its own. Its Rhodesian pals did so against the UK’s vocal objections. For once the British Empire wasn’t at fault.

Try again.

 

[Craig234]

Read the article before you jump on here complaining about Hamas. The west bank is Palestinian property, Israel took it over after the six day war and held onto it illegally since. As a matter of fact, one could argue all of Israel was at one time Palestinian lands.

For centuries, albeit with foreign rulers, the Ottoman Empire, the British. It's a successful colonization and ethnic cleansing - that's done, the current issue is preventing further colonization and ethnic cleansing that is in progress.

 

[bomberfox]

Tell me how ethnic cleansing wasnt always in the cards again?…

 

[bomberfox]

The rest of the world will get over it soon enough.

Lol! Boy you never tire of being wrong. Its actually Israel that is already a pariah state.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

One could not argue that. There was no such thing as an independent Palestine until the colonial powers made the egregious error of creating it in 1948.

OK, let's follow this up as it's an oft used excuse for cleansing the area of arabs. Where were the non-Jewish population come from that have been complaining about their land being stolen?

the current issue is preventing further colonization and ethnic cleansing that is in progress.

You know as well as I do that with US support, that cleansing is not stopping. If anything, Smotrich and Ben-Gvir are speeding things up now that Israel is talking with other nations about where to ship the unwanted arabs off to.
The US has already arm-twisted several African nations into accepting hardened criminals who have no link to Africa and it won't be much of a step for Trump to force Sudan to accept Palestinians so that he can cleanse Greater Israel of arabs.

 

[Napoleon]

Lol! Boy you never tire of being wrong. Its actually Israel that is already a pariah state.

lol. Perhaps as a matter of lip-service.

 

[Toggle Almendro]

So, how do we see this statement about these ongoing plans"

I suspect that I am the only non-Israeli who understands the significance of the E-1 and E-2 blocks.

The two settlement blocks completely cut off north vs south in the populated high altitudes of the West Bank. Once built, any Palestinian who wants to travel from north to south (or the reverse) will have to travel down the mountains into the desert of the Jordan River Valley, then travel north or south in the desert, then go back up the mountains after passing by the settlement block.

Anyway, I think its a good move. It is a good counter to the recent move by Canada, France, Australia, and the UK to recognize an imaginary Palestinian state. These nations need to understand that actions have consequences.