Government shutdown based on a lie: "We are moving to block an estimated 1.4 million illegal aliens from receiving American tax-payer Medicaid"!

[NolanVoyd]

Uhuh!

California Improperly Claimed $52.7 Million in Federal Medicaid Reimbursement for Capitation Payments Made on Behalf of Noncitizens With Unsatisfactory Immigration Status

oig.hhs.gov

Did you not read that or just not understand it?

 

[Cosmo]

Post #147


You are ignoring this part:

That is a clerical error that will be corrected under Federal law. There are no legal payments

...which means there are illegal ones.

Stop hiding behind a technicality that is brazenly ignored.

of Federal funds to undocumented migrants except for emergency treatments.

If you want to try to prove that Democrats are demanding that Federal funds be used for non-emergency treatment of undocumented migrants, go for it: copy and paste excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.

I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

 

[Cosmo]

Yes we do not let the undocumented die without treatment in emergency rooms. Is that what you are complaining about? That is sick behavior.

I'm complaining about the left's constant lying about it. Did we really need 6 pages of discussion for them to admit anything?

 

[Cosmo]

Just common sensr.

Cool. We don't want the illegals to stay here. That's why we elected Donald.

Just rational thought

Let them fix their paperwork.

our economy neess their labor, we need to let them do ot legally.

Seriously?

Are you playing games or did you really not underrand?

Pretending a 20ft+ wall is a welcome sign - I love it!

 

[Pyrite]

Post #147


You are ignoring this part:

That is a clerical error that will be corrected under Federal law. There are no legal payments of Federal funds to undocumented migrants except for emergency treatments.

If you want to try to prove that Democrats are demanding that Federal funds be used for non-emergency treatment of undocumented migrants, go for it: copy and paste excerpts from credible sources to which you provide the links.

I am looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

...which means there are illegal ones.

Stop hiding behind a technicality that is brazenly ignored.

Post #152


Thanks for letting us know you cannot prove that Democrats are demanding that Federal funds be used for non-emergency treatment of undocumented migrants.

 

[Greenbeard]

...which means there are illegal ones.

That's why they repaid the funds when the error was identified. Life goes on, harmony is restored to the universe.

California agrees to repay feds $52M in ‘improperly claimed’ immigrant Medicaid disbursements

An investigation by the federal HHS inspector general found California over-reimbursed tens of millions of dollars in Medicaid expenditures for "noncitizens with unsatisfactory immigration status."

www.foxnews.com

This, incidentally, is why GAO has always been the real DOGE. They do excellent work.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Cool. We don't want the illegals to stay here. That's why we elected Donald.

The United States economy certainly wants them here.

Pretending a 20ft+ wall is a welcome sign - I love it!

You really didnt understand?

Thats amazing!

But it explains a lot.

 

[Pyrite]

Post #152


Thanks for letting us know you cannot prove that Democrats are demanding that Federal funds be used for non-emergency treatment of undocumented migrants.

We're back to what @iguanaman pointed out in Post No. 146:

Trump's plans to remove ACA tax credits for American citizens is the cause of the shutdown. Throwing millions off their insurance will not stand.

 

[Cosmo]

That's why they repaid the funds when the error was identified. Life goes on, harmony is restored to the universe.

California agrees to repay feds $52M in ‘improperly claimed’ immigrant Medicaid disbursements

An investigation by the federal HHS inspector general found California over-reimbursed tens of millions of dollars in Medicaid expenditures for "noncitizens with unsatisfactory immigration status."

www.foxnews.com

This, incidentally, is why GAO has always been the real DOGE. They do excellent work.

Yeah I'm sure none of this stuff happens anymore! Not with NYC brazenly bragging on their website that they don't give a shit about immigration status even for non-emergency services!

 

[Greenbeard]

Yeah I'm sure none of this stuff happens anymore! Not with NYC brazenly bragging on their website that they don't give a shit about immigration status even for non-emergency services!

You posted an example that shows very convincingly that 1) the rules preclude illegals from getting federal funds for benefits, and 2) the system works as it should, with erroneous payments identified and remedied. Great news!

 

[Cosmo]

You posted an example that shows very convincingly that 1) the rules preclude illegals from getting federal funds for benefits, and 2) the system works as it should, with erroneous payments identified and remedied. Great news!

All it shows is that the shit goes on to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and some of it gets exposed via investigation sometimes. The rule also only applies to non-emergency services, so basically the illegals just go to the emergency room or call an ambulance instead of the regular doctor. So great job making NYC pay $100 for their annual physical while they bang the feds for $30,000 for an "emergency."

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yeah I'm sure none of this stuff happens anymore! Not with NYC brazenly bragging on their website that they don't give a shit about immigration status even for non-emergency services!

You are so confused.

 

[iguanaman]

All it shows is that the shit goes on to the tune of tens of millions of dollars and some of it gets exposed via investigation sometimes. The rule also only applies to non-emergency services, so basically the illegals just go to the emergency room or call an ambulance instead of the regular doctor. So great job making NYC pay $100 for their annual physical while they bang the feds for $30,000 for an "emergency."

So again you want emergency services denied and people allowed to die because of lack of treatment. This is typical of the "pro-life" movement who do not see how hypocritical they are being. You are pro-death to be more accurate and pro-cruelty of any kind.
Hospitals by law (passed by Ronald Reagan) are required to provide emergency services to EVERYONE including those without insurance. You think Americans without insurance should die also?

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Uhuh!

California Improperly Claimed $52.7 Million in Federal Medicaid Reimbursement for Capitation Payments Made on Behalf of Noncitizens With Unsatisfactory Immigration Status

oig.hhs.gov

That’s what I was going to say. The state reimbursements claims made to the federal government, but you beat me to it.

 

[NolanVoyd]

That’s what I was going to say. The state reimbursements claims made to the federal government, but you beat me to it.

You didnt read that did you?

 

[Cosmo]

So again you want emergency services denied and people allowed to die because of lack of treatment.

I want the illegals out of the country. Then there's no need for emergency services for them.

Furthermore, you're presenting a false dichotomy. It's not have the feds pay for it or people will die due to lack of treatment. The feds can stop paying and leave it to the sanctuary cities to pay for it! Your beloved illegals get all the care they want for free and liberals who want it that way get to pay for the whole thing. Win-win!

This is typical of the "pro-life" movement who do not see how hypocritical they are being. You are pro-death to be more accurate and pro-cruelty of any kind.
Hospitals by law (passed by Ronald Reagan) are required to provide emergency services to EVERYONE including those without insurance. You think Americans without insurance should die also?

 

[Cosmo]

You didnt read that did you?

I didn't see any epic stupidity or obtuseness in his posts as is common in yours, so I suspect he did.

 

[NolanVoyd]

I didn't see any epic stupidity or obtuseness in his posts as is common in yours, so I suspect he did.

Niether of you actually read it.

It was an accounting error that California fixed.

 

[Nickyjo]

It says right on government websites that illegals can get Medicaid.

Immigrants - OCHIA

Your link doesn’t say anything about illegals that I saw. As I understand it, the only undocumented who can get Medicaid are those who have filed asylum claims and who have been paroled into the US, and of course, those taken to emergency rooms.

 

[Cosmo]

Niether of you actually read it.

It was an accounting error that California fixed.

I'd rather have no illegals and no illegal-related accounting errors, but thanks for the offer!

 

[Cosmo]

Your link doesn’t say anything about illegals that I saw. As I understand it, the only undocumented who can get Medicaid are those who have filed asylum claims and who have been paroled into the US, and of course, those taken to emergency rooms.

If they've been paroled, then they're documented. Ever heard of an I-94?

 

[NolanVoyd]

I'd rather have no illegals and no illegal-related accounting errors, but thanks for the offer!

Our economy needs their labor.

The path to no illegals is letting the labor our economy needs come legally.

 

[Cosmo]

Our economy needs their labor.

The path to no illegals is letting the labor our economy needs come legally.

Democrats survived having their slaves taken away. They'll survive having their illegal labor taken away.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Democrats survived having their slaves taken away. They'll survive having their illegal labor taken away.

Its not democrats, it the US economy, sectors dominated by Republicans especially.

The ag sector is predominantly Republican, 50% of the ag labor force is illegal.

You dont seem to know much about this subject.

 

[Cosmo]

Its not democrats, it the US economy, sectors dominated by Republicans especially.

Aw! So cute! You're worried about us and not a bit about yourself or the illegals! That's a nice switch from demanding free healthcare for a cough!

The ag sector is predominantly Republican, 50% of the ag labor force is illegal.

You dont seem to know much about this subject.

They hire them because it's cheaper when you don't pay payroll or income taxes.