As in what?
That doesn't work either. If someone comes into my office and tells me that they want to pay me $30k to do their tax return but their income is from heroin trafficking I'm still going to ask them to leave even though it would be perfectly legal for me to do the return.
So does that mean all the baker has to do is make every cake custom? It would seem to me that if every cake was custom then people like yourself couldn't use the "but it's in the book" argument.
The argument appears to be that bakeries provide cake choices people can pick from, so if the bakery simply stopped doing that then the entire argument against them would fall apart.
Custom in what sense...be specific. Its difficult to respond in a vacuum.
If your religion requires you to be a bigot and discriminate fine...just don't open a business. You don't get to write your own rules and hide behind your religion just because you open shop.
There isn't much discrimination anymore, but the reason for that is most of it was made illegal and business has adapted to that - it's become a marketplace norm. For the vast majority of the population rules protect sexual orientation in addition to race, religion, etc. The point is the laws reflect our beliefs as a community and our expectations and they have worked. It would be IMO a huge mistake to assume because the laws have worked that we can repeal those laws. If we accept discrimination as legal, we are (as I see it) sending a community signal that it's OK. That's a step in the wrong direction.
No. I am speaking of religion. No religion says "follow my rules why you are at worship." Religion is a 24/7, 365 prospect.
What part of the Constitution allows the government to require you to passively give up your rights in order to participate in commerce?
At worship, yes. Not work. Worship is not involved in operating a business.
What rights are you being "passively required to give up"?
Custom, as in, everything is chosen for the cake. There is no cakes that they make for wedding that people can pick from, no predetermined items that they provide, just nothing but we offer wedding cakes and we get to say what will do and what we will not do for it. In short, every cake starts with a blank slate and nothing is a given.
The best your side can do is to say they have to make the cake anyway, but your supporting evidence for this is destroyed. Don't worry, you guys aren't smart enough for me to not come up with a solution around you the rest of the way.
1st Amendment.
What part of the Constitution allows the government to require you to passively give up your rights in order to participate in commerce?
I'm sorry, but no. It doesn't work that way.
What part of the Constitution allows the government to require you to passively give up your rights in order to participate in commerce?
What part of the first amendment?
What rights are you being "passively required to give up"?
What part of the Constitution allows the government to require you to passively give up your rights in order to participate in commerce?
Our society does not permit discrimination. In Indiana, if one is to believe Gov. Pence, that will include LGBT persons.
Oh for crying out loud, quit playing stupid.
Not at all. It doesn't change the scenario. They open their shop to the public for business. They provide cakes. They can't refuse to provide a cake just because the person is black or brown or asian or muslim or gay or........
How about the right to exclusiveness, how about the right to decide who will get your labor, service, property, association, and contract. How about all of those rights I just mentioned.
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