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Gov. Abbott warns Democrats who fled over GOP map could be removed or prosecuted

Bonnot said:
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Gov. Abbott warns Democrats who fled over GOP map could be removed or prosecuted

"Real Texans do not run from a fight. But that’s exactly what most of the Texas House Democrats just did," Gov. Greg Abbott said in response to Dems breaking quorum.
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Fascist scumbag piece of shit in charge of the theocratic and fascist hellscape known as Texas, threatens to remove democratic politicians and prosecute them for not showing up and allowing the GOP in Texas to continue on with their gerrymandering bullshit in an attempt to rig Congress to keep the GOP in control.
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You do understand both parties use gerrymandering to improve their representation in a state. This is not a GOP phenomenon.
This is politics; not tiddlywinks.
NY and CA will make an attempt to do the same think before next November.
IL already did it and it looks ugly but effective.
 
jaypatriot said:
You do understand both parties use gerrymandering to improve their representation in a state. This is not a GOP phenomenon.
This is politics; not tiddlywinks.
NY and CA will make an attempt to do the same think before next November.
IL already did it and it looks ugly but effective.
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If Democrats do it, it is the “will of the people”. When Republicans do it, the left screams “fascism”.

If liberals didn’t have double standards, they would have no standards at all.
 
jaypatriot said:
You do understand both parties use gerrymandering to improve their representation in a state. This is not a GOP phenomenon.
This is politics; not tiddlywinks.
NY and CA will make an attempt to do the same think before next November.
IL already did it and it looks ugly but effective.
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Yes.

Gerrymandering needs to be gotten rid of. It shouldn't be that difficult at all to create districts of roughly equal populations, without special consideration for the party and/or ethnic makeup of the resulting districts.

It is unlikely to happen for two reasons:

1. Both major parties do it, and will not want to pass up the chance to gerrymander when they are in control of a state legislature. Of course, one or both parties will say "we don't really want to do it, but the bad guys do it so we have to".

2. Past redistricting has created districts with disproportionately high populations of ethnic minorities. As a result, that seat is considered as "belonging" to the minority in question. Any de-gerrymandering done simply on the populations of districts will probably do away with those safe seats. This will be considered racist.
 
vanceen said:
Yes.

Gerrymandering needs to be gotten rid of. It shouldn't be that difficult at all to create districts of roughly equal populations, without special consideration for the party and/or ethnic makeup of the resulting districts.

It is unlikely to happen for two reasons:

1. Both major parties do it, and will not want to pass up the chance to gerrymander when they are in control of a state legislature. Of course, one or both parties will say "we don't really want to do it, but the bad guys do it so we have to".

2. Past redistricting has created districts with disproportionately high populations of ethnic minorities. As a result, that seat is considered as "belonging" to the minority in question. Any de-gerrymandering done simply on the populations of districts will probably do away with those safe seats. This will be considered racist.
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So, basically, you are opining there will be no end to gerrymandering.
Just like there will be no end to organizing DEI programs under different names to hide discrimination in favor of people of color and not meritocratic performance.
And there will be no end to student protesters who chant for Palestinian statehood while (trying( hiding their anti-Semitism.
 
jaypatriot said:
So, basically, you are opining there will be no end to gerrymandering.
Just like there will be no end to organizing DEI programs under different names to hide discrimination in favor of people of color and not meritocratic performance.
And there will be no end to student protesters who chant for Palestinian statehood while (trying( hiding their anti-Semitism.
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"Look over there"

So you're for gerrymandering, or you're against gerrymandering?
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
"Look over there"

So you're for gerrymandering, or you're against gerrymandering?
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Gerrymandering is like a politician avoiding questions on weekend talk shows because to answer truthfully would be detrimental to his/her political future.
Like Kamala Harris not wanting to answer the question about who are the Democrat party leaders.
 
jaypatriot said:
So, basically, you are opining there will be no end to gerrymandering.
Just like there will be no end to organizing DEI programs under different names to hide discrimination in favor of people of color and not meritocratic performance.
And there will be no end to student protesters who chant for Palestinian statehood while (trying( hiding their anti-Semitism.
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Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.

I gave two major reasons why we are not likely to see an end to gerrymandering. I hope very much that I'm wrong.

I didn't say or imply anything abouit DEI or anti-Semitic student protests. Those are completely different subjects. I actually think that both of those phenomena are passing, but we'll see.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
If Democrats do it, it is the “will of the people”. When Republicans do it, the left screams “fascism”.

If liberals didn’t have double standards, they would have no standards at all.
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this is all true

its justification
 
jaypatriot said:
Gerrymandering is like a politician avoiding questions on weekend talk shows because to answer truthfully would be detrimental to his/her political future.
Like Kamala Harris not wanting to answer the question about who are the Democrat party leaders.
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So you're for it or against it?

Are you against Abbot gerrymandering?
 
vanceen said:
Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about.

I gave two major reasons why we are not likely to see an end to gerrymandering. I hope very much that I'm wrong.

I didn't say or imply anything abouit DEI or anti-Semitic student protests. Those are completely different subjects. I actually think that both of those phenomena are passing, but we'll see.
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I was pointing the existence of other common practices that are basic to our society which will never go away because politicians know how to use them to their political advantage.
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
So you're for it or against it?

Are you against Abbot gerrymandering?
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NO, I am not against gerrymandering because it is a fixture of our political landscape. No one can outlaw it.
It's like feeding teachers union dues to politicians in blue states in order to further the existence of harmful and useless teachers unions.
 
jaypatriot said:
NO, I am not against gerrymandering because it is a fixture of our political landscape.
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Well then there you go, what's the problem? :)

newsom thumbs up.webp

jaypatriot said:
No one can outlaw it.
It's like feeding teachers union dues to politicians in blue states in order to further the existence of harmful and useless teachers unions.
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EnchantedMuggle said:
Don't be led down the rabbit hole with this stuff. That's the intent.

I'm still waiting to hear from those freaking out over California, whether therefore, they think gerrymandering is a bad thing.
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No one thinks it's a bad thing.

That's why Democrats and Republicans are doing it.

Of course one side had to do so first, but like school integration and gay marriage and minimum wage raises, one state had to start the trend.
 
Metric Mouse said:
No one thinks it's a bad thing.

That's why Democrats and Republicans are doing it.
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Perfect, so I can't see being upset with CA for it. It is what it is, amiright?

Metric Mouse said:
Of course one side had to do so first, but like school integration and gay marriage and minimum wage raises, one state had to start the trend.
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jaypatriot said:
It is a fixture of politics. Like politicians lying in order to get elected or re-elected.
You can't get rid of it because it is such a powerful political tool.
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And as I just said, there you go, it is what it is.

Not seeing the problem Pubs are having with this, in that case. Gerrymandering is here to stay. :) And any time red states try to wiggle things around, so will blue states, and vice versa I'm sure. It's really pretty simple.
 
vanceen said:
Yes.

Gerrymandering needs to be gotten rid of. It shouldn't be that difficult at all to create districts of roughly equal populations, without special consideration for the party and/or ethnic makeup of the resulting districts.

It is unlikely to happen for two reasons:

1. Both major parties do it, and will not want to pass up the chance to gerrymander when they are in control of a state legislature. Of course, one or both parties will say "we don't really want to do it, but the bad guys do it so we have to".

2. Past redistricting has created districts with disproportionately high populations of ethnic minorities. As a result, that seat is considered as "belonging" to the minority in question. Any de-gerrymandering done simply on the populations of districts will probably do away with those safe seats. This will be considered racist.
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A few States have moved to independent commissions to try to deal with gerrymandering, but most are doing the gerrymandering thing. And yeah, both parties will do it when they are in power during a district redraw. It's annoying as it's 2025 and there are certainly ways we can handle this in a non-partisan manner and should deal with it in a non-partisan manner.

It would be nice if reason and intelligence could win out, but unfortunately that's just not modern America.
 
Ikari said:
A few States have moved to independent commissions to try to deal with gerrymandering, but most are doing the gerrymandering thing. And yeah, both parties will do it when they are in power during a district redraw. It's annoying as it's 2025 and there are certainly ways we can handle this in a non-partisan manner and should deal with it in a non-partisan manner.

It would be nice if reason and intelligence could win out, but unfortunately that's just not modern America.
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There should be, yes, but Pubs can't stand to let a dirty move go by, so Abbot pulled his move without even considering what you're suggesting.

So...here we go.
 
The Brad Dad said:
This never happened.
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Did you sleep through the BLM and George Floyd riots, or are you just engulfed in cognitive dissonance? It did happen. Democrats threatened fines and arrests for people who didn’t wear masks or tried to assemble or operate businesses, but largely stood by as mass protests in the wake of the George Floyd killing were used by opportunistic anarcho-socialist agitators and other assorted criminals to burn and loot billions of dollars worth of property in cities across the country in the Summer of 2020.

 
Ahlevah said:
Did you sleep through the BLM and George Floyd riots, or are you just engulfed in cognitive dissonance? It did happen. Democrats threatened fines and arrests for people who didn’t wear masks or tried to assemble or operate businesses, but largely stood by as mass protests in the wake of the George Floyd killing were used by opportunistic anarcho-socialist agitators and other assorted criminals to burn and loot billions of dollars worth of property in cities across the country in the Summer of 2020.

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The concern for the riots were overblown and were only a small part of the protests that happened that summer.
 
Ahlevah said:
Did you sleep through the BLM and George Floyd riots, or are you just engulfed in cognitive dissonance? It did happen. Democrats threatened fines and arrests for people who didn’t wear masks or tried to assemble or operate businesses, but largely stood by as mass protests in the wake of the George Floyd killing were used by opportunistic anarcho-socialist agitators and other assorted criminals to burn and loot billions of dollars worth of property in cities across the country in the Summer of 2020.

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Vast majority were just peaceful protests. "anarcho-socialist" LOLOLOL there is no such thing. Literally no such thing.
 
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