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GOP. What does the party of law and order tell itself when trump defies a judges orders?

One, agreed with others that Trump ensured Republicans will never be the "party of law and order."

Two, they will move the field goal and claim that anyone getting in their way is "activist" or "globalist" judges. Basically appeal to conspiracy theory to avoid having to admit who they look at as Lord and Ruler is a complete bastardization of the Constitution and any sense of system of laws.
 

GOP. What does the party of law and order tell itself when trump defies a judges orders?​

The GOP has had no legitimate claim to being the party of "law and order"since the ford pardoning of "yes you are a crook", Richard Nixon.

When KING-DICTATOR-PRESIDENT TRUMP defies legitimate Court's orders the MAGATS et al will collectively cheer in orgasmic high adore.
 
Bring on those justifications, I'm curious to hear them.

What?......now the left is in support of violent gang members here illegally? What has become of your party?
 
Bring on those justifications, I'm curious to hear them.
SCTOUS held in Ludecke v. Watkins that removals under the Alien Enemies Act are not subject to judicial review. The Executive is not bound by unconstitutional orders issued by a rogue judge.
 
They'll argue that the judge is the one breaking the law and now dare he curb Supreme Leader's unlimited executive reach (of course an argument they would never make, say, went a right wing judge told Biden he couldn't forgive student loan debt). And then they'll minimize the entire violation of people's 5th Amendment rights by saying "SO YOU SUPPORT CRIMINALS AND GANG MEMBERS??" As if that's the point.

Watch. Their playbook is extremely predictable.
 
What?......now the left is in support of violent gang members here illegally? What has become of your party?
It is not the party of “law and order”, it is the party of “honor among thieves”.
 
What?......now the left is in support of violent gang members here illegally? What has become of your party?
A court order was issued. Trump violated it.

Babbling bullshit about the subject of that order is irrelevant.

Trump does not follow the law. He belongs in a cell until the day he dies.
 
What?......now the left is in support of violent gang members here illegally? What has become of your party?
The trump Fascist Party supports homegrown violent terrorists/mobs, crapping in our Capitol Building, beating Capitol Police Officers with ****ing American flag poles, and trying to overthrow the government , threaten our lawmakers and steal the votes of We The People.

Much better, huh? The insanity of the cultists and Putin suckers never ceases to amaze me. The hypocrisy of the right grows like black mold trump 15 flush crapper.

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Bring on those justifications, I'm curious to hear them.
They say something like "it's partisan, biased judges" or that "judges don't have the right to interfere with the executive branch".

Or if your Musk, you say any judge ruling against Trump should be impeached.

MAGAs are ****ing commie pukes.
 
What?......now the left is in support of violent gang members here illegally? What has become of your party?
Very poor deflection. We have had violent gangs in this country as long as there has been a country, but now we have a president who is becoming a dictator by ignoring the courts completely, something we have never had before.
 
SCTOUS held in Ludecke v. Watkins that removals under the Alien Enemies Act are not subject to judicial review. The Executive is not bound by unconstitutional orders issued by a rogue judge.

Just because you SAY you are removing people under the Alien Enemies Act doesn't make it legal.

Either way, the way this administration is going about things, people still have ****ing due process rights. Not that right wingers give a **** about people's rights.
 
What?......now the left is in support of violent gang members here illegally? What has become of your party?
Are doctors and surgeons violent gang members, in general? Is everyone here illegally a violent gang member in your opinion or are you just trying to paint them all that way?
 
It does if the President says so per SCOTUS.

You realize this asinine logic can apply to any person, including citizens, that the President arbitrarily deems to be worthy of persecution?

And y'all cry when we (rightfully) call you fascsists.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Wilhoite's Law

Also, the Alien Enemies Act "authorizes the United States president to restrain, secure, and remove any noncitizen in the United States who was a citizen of a country with which the United States was formally at war."

The United States is not formally at war with either the nation of Venezuela nor Tren de Aragua specifically. This is why it's important to actually know and understand the laws you're citing before you go off supporting fascist nonsense. Not that right wingers actually care about the law, you only cite laws and cases as ex post facto justifications for persecuting the people you hate.
 
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You realize this asinine logic can apply to any person, including citizens, that the President arbitrarily deems to be worthy of persecution?
No, because the AEA doesn’t pertain to citizens and there is no dispute about the status of the deportees.
 
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