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GOP Rep. Amash becomes first Republican to call for Trump's impeachment

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Washington (CNN)Michigan GOP Rep. Justin Amash said Saturday he had concluded President Donald Trump committed "impeachable conduct" and accused Attorney General William Barr of intentionally misleading the public.

Amash's comments recommending Congress pursue obstruction of justice charges against Trump were the first instance of a sitting Republican in Congress calling for Trump's impeachment.
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Amash is a fairly hard right Libertarian, and there are more moderate GOP Congressmen I thought might call for impeachment. His calling for it comes as a surprise to me. But Libertarians, as a rule, are pretty honest in what they believe, so maybe I shouldn't have been surprised at all. But I was.

Justin Amash becomes first Republican congressman to call for Trump's impeachment - CNNPolitics
 
Perhaps we're seeing for the first time an actual libertarian. One who stands for principles rather than labels and frankly right-wing republican slogans.
 
Amash, as far as I've ever seen, is a straight shooter. One of the very few Congress people I like. I don't agree with him on everything, but quite a bit.

He is right though. We're at a point that something has to be done or the Executive Branch will have too much power in the future.
 
Nothing burger.

A nothing politician that no one's ever heard of gets his 15 minutes of faddish virtue signaling fame & fades.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Nothing burger.

A nothing politician that no one's ever heard of gets his 15 minutes of faddish virtue signaling fame & fades.
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Obviously you haven't heard of Justin Amash but that tells us nothing. Amash has criticised fellow congress critters on both sides of the House for their babbling about the Mueller investigation while failing to actually read the report.

from the OP's link to CNN
Amash said on Saturday that he made his conclusions "only after having read Mueller's redacted report carefully and completely, having read or watched pertinent statements and testimony, and having discussed this matter with my staff, who thoroughly reviewed materials and provided me with further analysis."

He said Barr misled the public in a range of venues regarding the Mueller report, a charge Democrats and others have made repeatedly that the attorney general has disputed. "Barr's misrepresentations are significant but often subtle, frequently taking the form of sleight-of-hand qualifications or logical fallacies, which he hopes people will not notice," Amash said.
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ocean515 said:
Given his record, would you think it's fair to say Amash is more RINO than Republican? With that in mind, this story is more click bait than indicator of trend.
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Yes, if you mean the modern GOP under Trump. They are no longer conservative, all Trumpism (aka populism).
 
Somerville said:
Obviously you haven't heard of Justin Amash but that tells us nothing. Amash has criticised fellow congress critters on both sides of the House for their babbling about the Mueller investigation while failing to actually read the report.

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So why not subpoena Mueller to get his unedited testimony under oath and on public record?

Seriously, what gives?

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So Pelosi gathers Dems and tells them to focus on agenda so they can defeat Trump in 2020 and stop the impeachment talk and yet some GOP congressman steps up and says impeach Trump. Really? Smells fishy.
 
it isn't going to happen, IMO. have to defeat the orange fool at the polls.
 
Trump said:
So Pelosi gathers Dems and tells them to focus on agenda so they can defeat Trump in 2020 and stop the impeachment talk and yet some GOP congressman steps up and says impeach Trump. Really? Smells fishy.
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I wouldn't say "fishy" but there might be another reason for Amash (R-MI) to come out in favour of impeachment. Isolated in GOP, Congressman Justin Amash considers third-party presidential run

But Rand Paul isn't so sure -
Rand Paul, on a Prospective Justin Amash Presidential Run: 'The Electoral Prospects Don't Look That Good'

The three most libertarian members of Congress are, unsurprisingly, good friends and allies. Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.), Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.), and Rep. Justin Amash (R–Mich.) team up constantly on often-lonely crusades to restrain federal spending, rehabilitate constitutional governance, and remove U.S. troops from far-flung conflicts.

The two congressmen were loyal footsoldiers in the senator's star-crossed run at the 2016 GOP presidential nomination. (Massie's story about canvassing for Paul in Iowa is one of the most colorful explainers for how the Tea Party movement mutated into Trumpism.) In 2020, Paul is firmly on the sidelines, as is Massie ("I am absolutely ruling out a run for any office in 2020 as a big-L Libertarian," the congressman told me last summer), which leaves Amash, who is currently weighing his third-party options.
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Further down in the article, I read something from Senator Paul that I totally disagree with.
"As far as trying to end war or do some of the things that we want to do as libertarians," he said, "we have a better chance with, I think, a Trump than any of the ones on the Democrat side."
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As long as John Bolton is in the White House and Mike Pompeo at the State Dept. I personally believe we will be seeing a military conflict by the end of this year. I really hope I am wrong.
 
Somerville said:
Obviously you haven't heard of Justin Amash but that tells us nothing. Amash has criticised fellow congress critters on both sides of the House for their babbling about the Mueller investigation while failing to actually read the report.

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he evidently didn't read the report.

mueller found no evidence.
that kinda means that there was no law broken.

if no law is broken then well no crime has been committed.
at least in the US we do not charge people for crimes they didn't commit
even if we don't like their politics.
 
Airyaman said:
Amash, as far as I've ever seen, is a straight shooter. One of the very few Congress people I like. I don't agree with him on everything, but quite a bit.

He is right though. We're at a point that something has to be done or the Executive Branch will have too much power in the future.
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The Executive Branch has too much power in the present, as Trump has been demonstrating for two years.

It all began with the neocon claim to the Unitary Executive, and that started with Bush. Gunslinger Obama liked it, the AUMF is a sign of Legislative support, and Trump loves it too.
 
ludin said:
he evidently didn't read the report.

mueller found no evidence.
that kinda means that there was no law broken.

if no law is broken then well no crime has been committed.
at least in the US we do not charge people for crimes they didn't commit
even if we don't like their politics.
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. . . and you haven't read the report either, if you had you might have formed a different conclusion.
 
Trump said:
So Pelosi gathers Dems and tells them to focus on agenda so they can defeat Trump in 2020 and stop the impeachment talk and yet some GOP congressman steps up and says impeach Trump. Really? Smells fishy.
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It does.

In 2016, the Huffington Post ran an article on him with the headline "The One House Republican Who Can't Stop Criticizing Donald Trump."
His critic on Trump has been mostly kept to his twitter account and opposing almost everything from the Trump administration.
2 1/2 months ago he announced that he doesn't rule out running for president in 2020 as a 3rd party candidate (Libertarian).

All that blather didn't get him the "attention" he had hoped for, so I guess he figures some heavy duty pot-stirring is now in order to get his name out. (grin)

Amash has been exceptionally "vocal" on his twitter account against imposing Chinese tariffs.

Amash is co-owner of Dynamic Source International, a company in China which is the main supplier of their Michigan-based tool company.
Michigan Industrial Tools is the parent company, manufacturing in China, that produces Tekton Tools, Justin Amash’s Michigan family business.
Tools made in China, sold in the US of A as made in America.
 
uptower said:
Perhaps we're seeing for the first time an actual libertarian. One who stands for principles rather than labels and frankly right-wing republican slogans.
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Libertarians, either right or left leaning, still believe in the rule of law or they aren't Libertarian. If Trump is attempting to maintain borders, for example, that shouldn't offend Libertarians.
Trump's rush to infrastructure is another matter.
 
ludin said:
he evidently didn't read the report.
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Actually the "he made his conclusions "only after having read Mueller's redacted report carefully and completely, having read or watched pertinent statements and testimony, and having discussed this matter with my staff, who thoroughly reviewed materials and provided me with further analysis." bit does give some slight hint that possibly he might have - doesn't it?

ludin said:
mueller found no evidence.
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He also fairly clearly indicated where he was not allowed to look.

ludin said:
that kinda means that there was no law broken.
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Actually all it does do is indicate that the evidence, if any, was not in any place that Mr. Mueller was allowed to look.

ludin said:
if no law is broken then well no crime has been committed.
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My GOSH!!! What a blinding flash of legal insight!!! Have you told the ABA about this startling discovery?

ludin said:
at least in the US we do not charge people for crimes they didn't commit
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You ARE joking, aren't you?


ludin said:
even if we don't like their politics.
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That's because ("You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?") you don't have to.
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
Actually the "he made his conclusions "only after having read Mueller's redacted report carefully and completely, having read or watched pertinent statements and testimony, and having discussed this matter with my staff, who thoroughly reviewed materials and provided me with further analysis." bit does give some slight hint that possibly he might have - doesn't it?



He also fairly clearly indicated where he was not allowed to look.



Actually all it does do is indicate that the evidence, if any, was not in any place that Mr. Mueller was allowed to look.



My GOSH!!! What a blinding flash of legal insight!!! Have you told the ABA about this startling discovery?



You ARE joking, aren't you?




That's because ("You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?") you don't have to.
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Lower BC are you Canadian citizen?
 
:lamo

The GOP has sent out the left's hero - Romney - to beat Amash over the head.

"... Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, acknowledged that while he has called out Trump when he's deemed it appropriate, he does not believe the Mueller report provided evidence that supports impeaching the president.

... "I just don’t think that there is the full element that you’d need to prove an obstruction of justice case," Romney told host Jake Tapper on CNN's State of the Union on Sunday, ...

... Amash put forth the opposite theory in a Saturday Twitter thread, saying that he read the report, and that "President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct." Romney said that while he has "respect" for Amash, he disagrees with his conclusion."

Romney: Mueller report did not show obstruction, '''I don'''t think impeachment is the right way to go''' | Fox News

:lamo
 
danarhea said:
Amash is a fairly hard right Libertarian, and there are more moderate GOP Congressmen I thought might call for impeachment. His calling for it comes as a surprise to me. But Libertarians, as a rule, are pretty honest in what they believe, so maybe I shouldn't have been surprised at all. But I was.

Justin Amash becomes first Republican congressman to call for Trump's impeachment - CNNPolitics
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I think that used to be the case. Ever since the early 2000's many people started calling themselves libertarians that were just republicans that were embarrassed of Bush. Prior to that, I think libertarians, no matter how much I disagreed with them, were pretty consistent and conversations could be held with them. Since then, the goal posts on what is a libertarian seem to be sporadic and on wheels.
 
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