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GOP men have decided Men decide what happens to a woman's body when pregnant.

Or they can have an abortion. Problem solved.
If the law allows it they can but they don't have a right to that which supersedes the legal authority to restrict it. States legislators can implement whatever limitations or even an out right ban of them as they feel is appropriate.
 
Except that she can decide, with an out or not to have the child, he cannot decide an out on the child rearing, thus the system is unequal and puts the legal and financial future of one party in the hands of another. Just pointing out the legally unequal reality.
Again, gestation and rearing are 2 different things. But when there is a child born, then the focus and legality center on what is best for the child. Both parties then share legal and financial obligations. So it is equal.
 
If the law allows it they can but they don't have a right to that which supersedes the legal authority to restrict it. States legislators can implement whatever limitations or even an out right ban of them as they feel is appropriate.
They will certainly try. I suspect that will bite them in the ass down the road. I'm also sure some women will seek abortion by various means even if the law doesn't allow it.
 
If the law allows it they can but they don't have a right to that which supersedes the legal authority to restrict it. States legislators can implement whatever limitations or even an out right ban of them as they feel is appropriate.
State legislatures cannot prohibit abortion before the third trimester (Roe v. Wade).
 
State legislatures cannot prohibit abortion before the third trimester (Roe v. Wade).
Actually, that would be PP v. Casey (1992) which does that. Roe initially established the trimester framework, limiting abortions to the 1st trimester.
 
Are you unaware of the responsibilities attached to fatherhood?

The same that are attached to motherhood. That doesn't change the fact that men don't go through the mental or physical changes that women are forced to go through pregnancy. Also pregnancy is a risk to the woman. Anti-Choicers want to turn women into property.
 
The same that are attached to motherhood. That doesn't change the fact that men don't go through the mental or physical changes that women are forced to go through pregnancy. Also pregnancy is a risk to the woman. Anti-Choicers want to turn women into property.
I don't deny the burdens of motherhood. What I dont do is give them a higher value than the burdens of fatherhood. I treat them as they should be treated, as equals.
 
I don't deny the burdens of motherhood. What I dont do is give them a higher value than the burdens of fatherhood. I treat them as they should be treated, as equals.
When men get pregnant, then they'll be equal.
 
When men get pregnant, then they'll be equal.
Just because they face different burden does not mean they are not equal. You attitude is why I support banning all abortions. Holding everyone equally accountable at the point of conception deystroys the misandrist argument
 
Just because they face different burden does not mean they are not equal. You attitude is why I support banning all abortions. Holding everyone equally accountable at the point of conception deystroys the misandrist argument
What burden do men face during a woman's pregnancy? Dealing with mood swings? There is no equality in pregnancy. It is very 1 sided. And the fact that you support banning abortion just because of some perceived faux injustice is just spiteful and misogynistic!
 
What burden do men face during a woman's pregnancy? Dealing with mood swings? There is no equality in pregnancy. It is very 1 sided. And the fact that you support banning abortion just because of some perceived faux injustice is just spiteful and misogynistic!
Men need to prepare for fatherhood same as women need to prepare for motherhood.
 
Just because they face different burden does not mean they are not equal. You attitude is why I support banning all abortions. Holding everyone equally accountable at the point of conception deystroys the misandrist argument
I guess you can’t risk your life and gestate a pregnancy and because of that you will be forever discriminated against.
I honestly do not understand how I can help you cope with the injustice of it all.
 
She gave consent when she had sex. She, by choice, created that embryo, and it needs her. It is her responsibility to care for it.

That is exactly what we tell men and if that answer is good enough for them it should apply to women as well.
She consented to the risk of pregnancy. She did NOT agree to go to term if she did get pregnant.
 
True, but legally their financial future is determined by a third party who has both incentive to demand payment, and should she not want the burden/risk of said child, can abort. It's really lopsided when you think about. Not saying he should have a say in her decisions, but why should she have a say in his financial life for 18 years and he has... none? That's just not right.
It's only 18 years ..... cope.

/sarcasm
 
Men need to prepare for fatherhood same as women need to prepare for motherhood.
So what's the issue then? You complain about inequality, yet provide an example of equality. You defeat your own argument. Men risk nothing during a woman's pregnancy. It's the woman who takes the risks.
 
I guess you can’t risk your life and gestate a pregnancy and because of that you will be forever discriminated against.
I honestly do not understand how I can help you cope with the injustice of it all.
You seem to think that because of our biological differences it entitles women to legal privileges that men are excluded from. I disagree on that point and support both genders equally. I'm not asking for you to help me with anything. I am comfortable with my position.
 
So what's the issue then? You complain about inequality, yet provide an example of equality. You defeat your own argument. Men risk nothing during a woman's pregnancy. It's the woman who takes the risks.
There is no issue. People who are not willing to accept the risks should not have sex. What's the problem with that?
 
Once you remove the option of abortion your statements become contradictory
Nope. The woman is still the one getting pregnant and having to deal with it. The man does not.
There is no issue. People who are not willing to accept the risks should not have sex. What's the problem with that?
I said nothing about sex. I was talking about pregnancy, which is uniquely the woman's burden.
You seem to think that because of our biological differences it entitles women to legal privileges that men are excluded from. I disagree on that point and support both genders equally. I'm not asking for you to help me with anything. I am comfortable with my position.
On this case, biological differences makes all the difference.
 
Actually, that would be PP v. Casey (1992) which does that. Roe initially established the trimester framework, limiting abortions to the 1st trimester.
It doesn't limit abortions to the first trimester. The second trimester states can regulate, but not prohibit, abortions.
 
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