GOP men have decided Men decide what happens to a woman's body when pregnant.

[bomberfox]

I would care if the baby was half mine.
Women want 100% control over child support but want the father to have 0% control over whether or not the baby should be chopped up and thrown into the garbage.

Rarely if ever does an abortion occur that late.

 

[Gordy327]

Liberals are always crying......discrimination this, discrimination that, intolerance this, intolerance that. Everything they don't agree with gets labeled as discrimination or intolerance. Yet they discriminate against a baby who hasn't been born vs a baby who has. And they tolerate a baby who has been born vs a baby who hasn't.
Liberals are barbaric behind belief. What kind of human being would take the most innocent and vulnerable in our society and treat it worse than garbage?

Strawman argument. I don't know why you're trying to bring political ideologies into it, coupled with sweeping generalization and appeals to emotion. It seems you have no actual argument to offer. Just whining.

 

[minnie616]

Babies who weigh less than a pound can survive outside the womb but you would chop up a 10 lb baby that hasn't been born yet?

Impossible. You don’t have any medical training or you know that breaking the skull into little pieces and removing it and the other pieces cannot occur past the age of viability or about 24 weeks.

The skull is too well formed and it must be delivered by an emergency c-secton or remain whole and delivered through the birth cannel.

 

[Roger Duke]

Impossible. You don’t have any medical training or you know that fractureding the skull into little pieces and removing cannot occur past the age of viability or about 24 weeks.

The skull is too well formed and it must be delivered by and emergency c-secton or remain whole and delivered through the both cannel.

Tell mrjurrs. That's who wants to kill 10 lb babies.

 

[mrjurrs]

Babies who weigh less than a pound can survive outside the womb but you would chop up a 10 lb baby that hasn't been born yet?

It would only be a baby if it was outside the womb. You're right that 1 in 4 babies that size can survive until discharge. Who pays for the millions of dollars of medical care that infant would require?

 

[MamboDervish]

My wife controls my body all the time. Do you want me to post her "To Do" list?

Does the list include surgical removal of the organ that leaves you ignorant?

 

[minnie616]

This is a really bizarre way to reduce crime. Kill the future criminals before they are born and kill them at a higher rate if they are poor or babies of color.
Hitler would be proud of your efforts to improve society.

Unfortunately, unwanted , poor children are more likely to turn to crime.
60 percent of women who have abortions are already raising at least one born child.

I am not encouraging anyone to have abortion but it is definitely a reason not to force the woman to give birth when doesn’t want to.

Just an FYI .
I am pro choice.
Which means I support the pregnant woman choice.
I love children and
I am the mother of 4 grown grown children.

 

[Roger Duke]

Does the list include surgical removal of the organ that leaves you ignorant?

Yep, that's been gone quite awhile now. Yet, even without intelligence I still crush liberals in debates on abortion. That doesn't say a lot for liberals. Don't get me wrong. It's not that liberals can't be smart but history will someday show that they missed the mark here. Civilized societies don't kill the most vulnerable and innocent amongst them.

 

[Roger Duke]

It would only be a baby if it was outside the womb. You're right that 1 in 4 babies that size can survive until discharge. Who pays for the millions of dollars of medical care that infant would require?

We should kill people who are a financial burden to us?

 

[Gordy327]

We should kill people who are a financial burden to us?

If they were aborted to begin with, it wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Roger Duke]

If they were aborted to begin with, it wouldn't be an issue.

Good point and one I wanted to address in my "Hitler would love abortion" thread but understandably, liberals are avoiding it.

 

[MamboDervish]

Yep, that's been gone quite awhile now.

Apparently.

Yet, even without intelligence I still crush liberals in debates on abortion. That doesn't say a lot for liberals.

No - It doesn't say a lot for your ability to keep score.

Don't get me wrong. It's not that liberals can't be smart but history will someday show that they missed the mark here. Civilized societies don't kill the most vulnerable and innocent amongst them.

First of all, you have to be present to be innocent. A fetus doesn't qualify. And the history here on DP alone has demonstrated ample times - more than I can even count - that it's the self-misidentified conservatives who have missed the mark.

 

[Bear5131]

Show that 45% of women are PRO-LIFE to the point that they want to PREVENT OTHER women from having abortions.

I say that because personally I am pro-life and would never ask my partner to have an abortion and would try to convince her otherwise without having one. However, I would never seek LAW to prevent her from having one.

Let's see those stats bub. See context is EVERYTHING, something that extremist Pro-lifers ignore.

Those women who are against abortions are real Christians

 

[Roger Duke]

First of all, you have to be present to be innocent. A fetus doesn't qualify.

You are contradicting yourself. The are saying that a fetus is not present but yet you still call it a fetus. Does a fetus exist or not?
But we see this all the time with liberals and abortion. They always try to play with words because if they didn't they would realize the truth. It is their way of masking their guilt for killing babies.

 

[Davin]

Those women who are against abortions are real Christians

Sorry you were proven wrong again and have to run away from your lies. Show where 45% of women that are pro-life to the point they want to prevent other women from having abortions. Until you can do that, all you have are lies.

 

[Bear5131]

Sorry you were proven wrong again and have to run away from your lies. Show where 45% of women that are pro-life to the point they want to prevent other women from having abortions. Until you can do that, all you have are lies.

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[Roger Duke]

Sorry you were proven wrong again and have to run away from your lies. Show where 45% of women that are pro-life to the point they want to prevent other women from having abortions. Until you can do that, all you have are lies.

So all the woman at pro-life rallies are only advocating that they personally shouldn't have an abortion. They are fine with other women having them?

 

[Gordy327]

Good point and one I wanted to address in my "Hitler would love abortion" thread but understandably, liberals are avoiding it.

So what is your complaint exactly? If you think men should be allowed to opt out of support, then the woman getting an abortion will ensure just that. Not seeing the problem here.

 

[Davin]

We shoul

No, in the eyes of Republicans they should just suffer and die on their own without any government help. That is the Republican way.

 

[Gordy327]

So all the woman at pro-life rallies are only advocating that they personally shouldn't have an abortion. They are fine with other women having them?

If they are fine with other women having abortions, then they are also pro-choice.

 

[Gordy327]

Those women who are against abortions are real Christians

No True Scotsman fallacy.

 

[Phys251]

But we are all former future human beings. Why are our lives more valuable than a future human being? It's like saying an adult has more value than a child, when it should be just the opposite. The younger you are the more potential you have...unless you get chopped up and thrown in the garbage.

Prolifers cease being prolife the second birth happens. Their response to the events in Uvalde are an example of this.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Ah...so you are pro life...but lack the character and conviction to stand behind your beliefs...and have the gall to talk shit about others? very telling.

Most people have things they are personally against but don't think others should be prohibited from doing. I am personally against smoking but against bans placed on it by govt.

 

[Roger Duke]

No, in the eyes of Republicans they should just suffer and die on their own without any government help. That is the Republican way.

Not true at all. Republicans want everybody to have opportunity and prosperity. The only difference is that Republicans want people to work if they are able. Democrats don't realize that government money comes from taxpayers and not the government so they are fine if nobody pulls their own weight.

 

[Roger Duke]

Most people have things they are personally against but don't think others should be prohibited from doing. I am personally against smoking but against bans placed on it by govt.

Bad example because smoking is different than killing babies. It's not much different than saying you are personally against stealing but don't want the government to ban it.