GOP congressman threatens impeachment

[sawyerloggingon]

I am far from a constitutional scholar but this guy mat have a very good case if obama tries to usurp the second amendment.

"Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.
Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.”


Read more: GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control | The Daily Caller

 

[TheNextEra]

I am far from a constitutional scholar but this guy mat have a very good case if obama tries to usurp the second amendment.

"Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.
Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.”


Read more: GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control | The Daily Caller

The right also threatened to do this with Obamacare as well. It got nowhere.

Obama is far from stupid and his legal team researches quite well how to walk the fine line between constitutional and unconsitutional (at least so far as the Supreme Court is concerned).

I would imagine this situation will be no different and the path he chooses (no matter how wrong I think it will be) will be a legal one or at least one that can stand up to any Supreme Court ruling.

 

[Fisher]

There is no Judicial Review of Impeachment. The Congress can impeach a President for any reason they want. The Senate holding the trial and the voters having elections are the only 2 checks on that. "high crimes and misdemeanors" is defined by the Congress itself not the Courts.

 

[SMTA]

I am far from a constitutional scholar but this guy mat have a very good case if obama tries to usurp the second amendment.

"Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.
Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.”


Read more: GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control | The Daily Caller

It would be nice if it worked.

 

[tessaesque]

Surely there are other means of nullifying an overreaching executive order that don't involve an expensive and pointless "trial" via impeachment.

 

[jonny5]

I am far from a constitutional scholar but this guy mat have a very good case if obama tries to usurp the second amendment.

"Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.
Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.”


Read more: GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control | The Daily Caller

As much as I would be happy to see Obama go, impeachment is only for treason, bribery, and high crimes. Doing something which may be unconstitutional should be countered with a civil lawsuit, congressional action, or protest.

 

[YoungConserv]

I am far from a constitutional scholar but this guy mat have a very good case if obama tries to usurp the second amendment.

"Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.
Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.”


Read more: GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control | The Daily Caller

The real issue isn't necessarily that he's doing something it's how he's doing it. The president under article 2 has no power to limit one of the bill of rights by executive order. Now congress doesn't have that power either but that ship sailed long ago. The president changing our rights through executive order opens a dangerous precedence for future presidents. What's to stop a president later on from limiting free speach or warrants through executive order? You have to think long term to what this power can be used for good and evil.

 

[justabubba]

I am far from a constitutional scholar but this guy mat have a very good case if obama tries to usurp the second amendment.

"Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.
Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.”


Read more: GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control | The Daily Caller

stockman will go far [/s]

expect to see a visit from sarah palin at any moment

 

[AliHajiSheik]

There is no Judicial Review of Impeachment. The Congress can impeach a President for any reason they want. The Senate holding the trial and the voters having elections are the only 2 checks on that. "high crimes and misdemeanors" is defined by the Congress itself not the Courts.

Perhaps since the Senate trial of Impeachment is presided by the Chief Justice (of the United States), that could be considered judicial review.

 

[Tigger]

Surely there are other means of nullifying an overreaching executive order that don't involve an expensive and pointless "trial" via impeachment.

Yes, there is.... REVOLUTION!!!!!!

 

[Carleen]

I am far from a constitutional scholar but this guy mat have a very good case if obama tries to usurp the second amendment.

"Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order.
Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.”


Read more: GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control | The Daily Caller

Where is this idea that the president wants to change the 2nd ammendment coming from? A ban on assault weapons has been done before and there are many more things that are being discussed. I think the NRA is spreading fear because there is money involved if weapons are banned.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

Where is this idea that the president wants to change the 2nd ammendment coming from? A ban on assault weapons has been done before and there are many more things that are being discussed. I think the NRA is spreading fear because there is money involved if weapons are banned.

When you start making the owning of a firearm so regulated that it becomes nearly unattainable you may run afoul of the second amendment, indeed you may be making it so onerous to purchase a gun that you effectively make the second amendment null and void.

"Joe Biden: White House eying 19 executive actions on guns"

Read more: Joe Biden on guns: White House eying 19 executive actions - POLITICO.com

 

[justabubba]

When you start making the owning of a firearm so regulated that it becomes nearly unattainable you may run afoul of the second amendment, indeed you may be making it so onerous to purchase a gun that you effectively make the second amendment null and void.

"Joe Biden: White House eying 19 executive actions on guns"

Read more: Joe Biden on guns: White House eying 19 executive actions - POLITICO.com

ok. tell us what proposals have run afoul of the Constitution
i'll wait for your answer but refuse to hold my breath

 

[rocket88]

As much as I would be happy to see Obama go, impeachment is only for treason, bribery, and high crimes. Doing something which may be unconstitutional should be countered with a civil lawsuit, congressional action, or protest.

Could you imagine the political chaos that would result from impeaching everybody you disagree with?

 

[Paschendale]

Could you imagine the political chaos that would result from impeaching everybody you disagree with?

Sadly, that's now what impeachment has become. They let it out of the bag when they impeached Clinton over a blow job. It's just political posturing now.

 

[Tigger]

Could you imagine the political chaos that would result from impeaching everybody you disagree with?

You're absolutely correct. Then again I would rather have political chaos in DC than the system we have now, which is quite organized towards destroying this nation.

 

[Carleen]

When you start making the owning of a firearm so regulated that it becomes nearly unattainable you may run afoul of the second amendment, indeed you may be making it so onerous to purchase a gun that you effectively make the second amendment null and void.

"Joe Biden: White House eying 19 executive actions on guns"

Read more: Joe Biden on guns: White House eying 19 executive actions - POLITICO.com

I see nothing that enfringes on the right to bear arms as was written in the 2nd ammendment.

 

[jonny5]

The real issue isn't necessarily that he's doing something it's how he's doing it. The president under article 2 has no power to limit one of the bill of rights by executive order. Now congress doesn't have that power either but that ship sailed long ago. The president changing our rights through executive order opens a dangerous precedence for future presidents. What's to stop a president later on from limiting free speach or warrants through executive order? You have to think long term to what this power can be used for good and evil.

Congress, the courts, the people, through using their powers.

 

[jonny5]

Sadly, that's now what impeachment has become. They let it out of the bag when they impeached Clinton over a blow job. It's just political posturing now.

He was impeached over the crime of perjury, not to mention sexual harassment of employees.

 

[YoungConserv]

Congress, the courts, the people, through using their powers.

Huh? What are you trying to say.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

ok. tell us what proposals have run afoul of the Constitution
i'll wait for your answer but refuse to hold my breath

No single executive action runs afoul of the second, it is the cumulative effect of 19 exucutive actions that may cross the line and impose such burdensome regulations on gun ownership that obama may be violating the spirit if not the letter of the constitution. That could be grounds for impeachment.

 

[rocket88]

He was impeached over the crime of perjury, not to mention sexual harassment of employees.

He was impeached over a very minor offense by Republicans intent on getting revenge for Nixon.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

Sadly, that's now what impeachment has become. They let it out of the bag when they impeached Clinton over a blow job. It's just political posturing now.

I guess you can show us somewhere in the impeachment of Clinton where the grounds for impeachment was getting a blow job.:roll:

 

[sawyerloggingon]

He was impeached over a very minor offense by Republicans intent on getting revenge for Nixon.

Lieing undr oath is not a minor offense. You or I would go to jail for that.

 

[Tigger]

He was impeached over a very minor offense by Republicans intent on getting revenge for Nixon.

He should feel lucky. He SHOULD HAVE been dragged out of the White House and tossed to the curb like the letcher that he was/is. The fact that his wife has maintained any level of respect from the American public is disgusting to the point of nauseousness.