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Goodbye Federal unions.

Lord of Planar

Lord of Planar

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I'm surprised no threads yet of federal unions being disassembled.
 
If Trump can do that, I'll forgive him for all of the other stupid shit he's done.

All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.
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Letter on the Resolution of Federation of Federal Employees Against Strikes in Federal Service | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu www.presidency.ucsb.edu
 
Jezcoe said:
The government can be just as terrible and abusive of an employer as the private sector.

Cheering on the erosion of labor rights is very weird.
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It's a Republican peasant's duty to protect the wealth of their rich Republican masters. After all....rich Republicans are their intellectual and moral superiors and they know what is best for their sorry dirt poor asses.

Pathetic SUCKERS....all of them.
 
RIP U.S. Democracy said:
It's a Republican peasant's duty to protect the wealth of their rich Republican masters. After all....rich Republicans are their intellectual and moral superiors and they know what is best for their sorry dirt poor asses.

Pathetic SUCKERS....all of them.
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Hating on unions is something that will never understand
 
Jezcoe said:
The government can be just as terrible and abusive of an employer as the private sector.

Cheering on the erosion of labor rights is very weird.
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The problem is the unions, most anyway, have become the problem.

What ever happened to "Union Pride?"
 
Jezcoe said:
Hating on unions is something that will never understand
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Unions have done great things for this nation in the past. Now most of them abuse their power.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Unions have done great things for this nation in the past. Now most of them abuse their power.
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And you can't wait for us to return to the days before unions. Because you think we'll get to keep all the goodies they got us. You are naive.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
And you can't wait for us to return to the days before unions. Because you think we'll get to keep all the goodies they got us. You are naive.
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No, I just want the unions to actually represent all workers. Not empower themselves. Not protect the workers that need to be fired.

There should be no federal unions. People who work government should consider it a privileged job. Federal employee unions are negotiating with politicians, and that makes for corruption.
 
Lord of Planar said:
No, I just want the unions to actually represent all workers. Not empower themselves. Not protect the workers that need to be fired.
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They don’t.

They do have a process to protect from being fired for illegitimate reasons.


Lord of Planar said:
There should be no federal unions. People who work government should consider it a privileged job. Federal employee unions are negotiating with politicians, and that makes for corruption.
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The government is just as capable of being a terrible and abusive employer as the private sector can be.

Why should the government be allowed to treat employees like it is a privilege to work there and get away with abuse?
 
Jezcoe said:
Where are these power hungry unions?

Labor has been losing out to the oligarchy for decades and the plebes cheer it on.
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That is not my viewpoint. I agree wages and benefits cannot keep, but that is because we sold our soul to China. We have been losing family wage union jobs in manufacturing because we cannot compete with China and other trading partners. that is a different issue altogether.

My primary beef with unions, is protecting an employee that clearly needs to be removed. I also disagree with the way they make pay scales. I am not in favor of the civilian sector losing union protection. I just want things changed.

There should not be government employee unions though. Governments do not have a bottom line to maintain like employers do, and politicians do not care about what is reasonable.
 
RIP U.S. Democracy said:
Yeah....all 3 of them.

This ain't the 1970s, dude....you have no idea what you are saying, like most topics. Unions are an endangered species.
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Maybe they shouldn't have pissed so many people off.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
Maybe they shouldn't have pissed so many people off.
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America was best when it's union membership was highest. Everything an American could want or need was proudly Made in America. Made in Japan was a euphemism for cheap junk.
Then southern states lured manufacturing with non-union right-to-work laws and it was just the first step on the road to Mexican maquiladora zones and child labour sweatshops in Sri Lanka.
And now American stores are full of cheap junk.
 
Showtime586 said:
Why would unions bother you? Did you lose a job to a better qualified union worker?
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Instead of the CEO at his company making only 300 times as much as @Lord of Planar and the other suckers at his company, the CEO made only 290 times as much.

In other words....he did not adequately fulfill his peasant duty.
 
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