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God, Science and Abortion meet and agree

This is public board...why do you post your nonsense?

My posts are sourced refutations of anti-abortion propaganda and conservative Christian judgements of women's immorality when they make personal decisions about their private reproductive lives. I also post the statistics on the rate of abortions conservative Christian women get to show the hypocrisy of the anti-abortion position.
 
My posts are sourced refutations of anti-abortion propaganda and conservative Christian judgements of women's immorality when they make personal decisions about their private reproductive lives. I also post the statistics on the rate of abortions conservative Christian women get to show the hypocrisy of the anti-abortion position.
Good for you...none of that matters to true believers...taking a human life is taking a human life...
 
Good for you...none of that matters to truebelievers...taking a human life is taking a human life...

I don't suppose you have ever considered going about your business of not getting a abortion quietly, with dignity and foregoing the pleasure of judging other women.
 
I don't suppose you have ever considered going about your business of not getting a abortion quietly, with dignity and foregoing the pleasure of judging other women.
Have you?
 
Have you?
If the anti-abortion movement and the Christian Taliban were not posting lies about women, abortion, the Constitution and science I wouldn't be here.

When some idiot says women are ----------- (insert lie here) someone has to say, "That simply is not true". and post the statistics that disprove the lie.

For some reason political and religious conservatives have gotten the idea that they can lie with impunity because all communication venues belong to them.
 
If the anti-abortion movement and the Christian Taliban were not posting lies about women, abortion, the Constitution and science I wouldn't be here.
If the pro-abortion movement did not post lies about abortion, I wouldn't be here...
 
If the pro-abortion movement did not post lies about abortion, I wouldn't be here...
There it is, again. Lies with no backup information to prove they are not lies. Enlighten us. What lies are told by the pro-choice movement?
 
There it is, again. Lies with no backup information to prove they are not lies. Enlighten us. What lies are told by the pro-choice movement?
I haven't seen any back-up for yours, either...and leave the Constitution out of it...this is beliefs and skeptics forum, not abortion or politics...
 
It’s nonsense masquerading as philosophy. It was really just man’s first attempt at trolling people.
And continues to this day and beyond. It's a permanent scourge of mankind.
 
I haven't seen any back-up for yours, either...and leave the Constitution out of it...this is beliefs and skeptics forum, not abortion or politics...
I seldom post a fact without giving a link to the study, survey, scholarly journal, book, article, news report in which it appears. And just in case you didn't notice the Constitution is very much a part of your right to believe as you wish. It is not to be left out out of a religious discussion.
 
I seldom post a fact without giving a link to the study, survey, scholarly journal, book, article, news report in which it appears. And just in case you didn't notice the Constitution is very much a part of your right to believe as you wish. It is not to be left out out of a religious discussion.
Facts have nothing whatsoever to do with morality...I can believe what I wants, despite the Constitution or any other earthly gov.
 
Facts have nothing whatsoever to do with morality...I can believe what I wants, despite the Constitution or any other earthly gov.

Really moral behavior is based on facts, not on what one wishes the world was or what one's God says the world should be and you can believe what you want because of the Constitution.
 
Religion says God created mankind with a large and complex brain with which to learn and become wise.
For the Lord gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.Proverbs 2:6
How much better to get wisdom than gold, to get insight rather than silver!Proverbs 16:16
Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.Ephesians 5:15-16
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.Proverbs 18:2 |
Who is wise and understanding among you? Let them show it by their good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom.James 3:13
God clearly expects mankind to use this brain, gain knowledge, become wise and live lives grounded in wisdom. He shows a definite distaste for people with opinions only.

Science says stress of any kind: overpopulation, lack of food or water, degraded or destroyed environment, poor health, ingestion of noxious substances, chaotic environment, noise, harassment have a detrimental effect on the pregnant female, the developing fetus and the birthing of healthy young.

Times of significant stress produce hormones that can cause spontaneously abortion allowing females to stay strong during hard times and produce healthy young when times are better. Were the pregnancy to continue the young would be malformed or weakened and die at or near birth. The female weakened by the pregnancy may also die. The survival of the species actually depends on animals aborting in times of high stress.

Science has shown that stress in humans impairs the mental and physical health of the mother and newborn in the same way as in animals. And the same hormones that cause spontaneous abortion in animals can cause humans to abort. However, humans can psychologically ignore the stress or medically overcome the hormones so stress has to be intellectually perceived and a conscious decision made to end a pregnancy that will hurt the family, the woman and the child. And right here is where religion and science come together. Because our human mind can think analytically, abstractly and empathetically we have a moral responsibility to consciously prevent situations that hurt other people. If a child or another child will harm others and itself abortion is a moral choice.

Most women who get abortions are already mothers and most expect to have a child later, when it will be welcomed and supported into a loving family eager for a strong and healthy new life. Science and religion working together doing what God intended, using our brains and improving the species.

Think of it this way: If God didn't intend us to think why did He give us such magnificent brains.
Which god are you referring to?
 
Really moral behavior is based on facts, not on what one wishes the world was or what one's God says the world should be and you can believe what you want because of the Constitution.
lol...maybe yours are...mine are based on God's Word...the Constitution has nothing to do with...
 
Which god are you referring to?

This was an attempt to show that there is more than one biblically based way to look at abortion. Conservative Christians do not have to see abortion as against God's plans, wishes, commands, whatever. They could also see abortion as acceptable to God because He gave us brains to figure out what was best for everyone. It was just an interesting intellectual exercise in futility. I doubt if it makes much of a dent in Christian conservative thought.
 
None I care to discuss with someone who approves of baby killing...
Baby killing is murder. Termination of a fetus is a protected medical procedure.
 
Baby killing is murder. Termination of a fetus is a protected medical procedure.
And if it is a crime when someone outside the hospital stabs a woman killing the fetus? What does the law say about "killing a bunch of cells"?
 
And if it is a crime when someone outside the hospital stabs a woman killing the fetus? What does the law say about "killing a bunch of cells"?
Requires a criminal act to make the charge ie the stabbing.
 
Why isn't it free will, just because God knows what the choices we will make ahead of time?
It is free will, and that's why your dreams of Catholic theocracy are an egregious sin and a violation of God's Will. He chose not to force us to follow Him and His Laws...so it's completely wrong that you and that cult of yours would want to force God's Laws on people who have not chosen His Way.

Right? I mean, how would you justify such a sin, usurping His Authority like that?
 
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