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God loves tariffs, stop your whining!

What exactly did he say that you disagree with? We're leaving behind an astronomical level of debt that can never be paid. Yet every time someone in power tries to do something about it leftists have psychotic meltdowns.
Tariffs won't pay down the debt.

Tariffs are hurting Americans.

Tariffs won't pay down the debt.

Tariffs are hurting American businesses.

Tariffs won't pay down the debt.

The sooner that you folks understand how tariffs work and how it won't generate anywhere close to helping with national debt in any meaningful fashion or to limit or even pay government...the more likely you will understand how disastrous this is.
 
Tariffs won't pay down the debt.

Tariffs are hurting Americans.

Tariffs won't pay down the debt.

Tariffs are hurting American businesses.

Tariffs won't pay down the debt.

The sooner that you folks understand how tariffs work and how it won't generate anywhere close to helping with national debt in any meaningful fashion or to limit or even pay government...the more likely you will understand how disastrous this is.

I know how tariffs. You clearly don't recognize negotiation when you see it.
 
I know how tariffs. You clearly don't recognize negotiation when you see it.
There is no negotiation. Who are you trying kid?

Tell me: if you really think this is about negotiating, then how well are the negotiations going? And why piss off our allies in slapping them with tariffs? Please, tell me what the plan is...and don't tell me to google it or whatever. YOU made a counter argument, YOU defend it.

Almost forgot, if you know how tariffs work, then you know they can't pay down the debt in any significant fashion...so please explain how tariffs which are paid by importers (us) will pay off the debt.
 
There is no negotiation. Who are you trying kid?

Tell me: if you really think this is about negotiating, then how well are the negotiations going? And why piss off our allies in slapping them with tariffs? Please, tell me what the plan is...and don't tell me to google it or whatever. YOU made a counter argument, YOU defend it.

Almost forgot, if you know how tariffs work, then you know they can't pay down the debt in any significant fashion...so please explain how tariffs which are paid by importers (us) will pay off the debt.

Google it.
 
So true!


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And the right wonders why people are leaving Christianity in droves. It seems that everyone but the Christians know they lie about what Christ taught. In fact they usually claim the exact opposite of what he taught. It is incredible how Christians are so willing to lie about the Bible in order to support their politics. Christianity is no longer a religion but rather just a cultural pretense for the masses, a way of getting votes for the politicians and a money making enterprise to most of the church leadership (TBN just an example). Most of them should be scared sh*tl*ss if God is real. They have blurred and lied about the teachings of Christ just like they have everything else. But on the bright side at least they will be able to spend all of eternity with Trump and the rest of MAGA. Only not in the place they would like but rather in the bad place. Torment and torture for all eternity is all they really have to look forward to. Yes, keep listening to preachers like the one introduced at the beginning of this thread. After all it is Easter so keep celebrating Trump's being a Prophet and all of the rest of your MAGA so called Prophets.
 
And the right wonders why people are leaving Christianity in droves. It seems that everyone but the Christians know they lie about what Christ taught. In fact they usually claim the exact opposite of what he taught. It is incredible how Christians are so willing to lie about the Bible in order to support their politics. Christianity is no longer a religion but rather just a cultural pretense for the masses, a way of getting votes for the politicians and a money making enterprise to most of the church leadership (TBN just an example). Most of them should be scared sh*tl*ss if God is real. They have blurred and lied about the teachings of Christ just like they have everything else. But on the bright side at least they will be able to spend all of eternity with Trump and the rest of MAGA. Only not in the place they would like but rather in the bad place. Torment and torture for all eternity is all they really have to look forward to. Yes, keep listening to preachers like the one introduced at the beginning of this thread. After all it is Easter so keep celebrating Trump's being a Prophet and all of the rest of your MAGA so called Prophets.

Wait, people are leaving Christianity in droves?


Global Christianity surges beyond projections in 2024​


The Center for the Study of Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary recently reported that global Christianity is experiencing remarkable growth, defying expectations and surpassing population rates.

Contrary to the anticipated slowdown, the Christian population is projected to climb from over 2.52 billion to 2.63 billion, representing a 1.08 percent growth, and is expected to surpass 3 billion by 2050.
 

Talk about an organization that needs to lose its tax exempt status. Religion blows!
"A little bit of suffering in your portfolio." I don't recall Trump saying that in the pre-election days. This is not about our kids and grandkids. This is hitting us especially the retired and soon to retire people.
 
Wait, people are leaving Christianity in droves?


Global Christianity surges beyond projections in 2024​


The Center for the Study of Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary recently reported that global Christianity is experiencing remarkable growth, defying expectations and surpassing population rates.

Contrary to the anticipated slowdown, the Christian population is projected to climb from over 2.52 billion to 2.63 billion, representing a 1.08 percent growth, and is expected to surpass 3 billion by 2050.
I think you just proved my point.
If you actually read my posting it is more than obvious I was talking about the U.S. I made multiple references that made this clear. Then of course you ignored this fact so that you could make your point anyway. As for your source I will just point out that it makes it's living by convincing people to give them money. Pretending they are successful is the best way to get people to keep giving them money.
 
Christians are coming out of the woodwork to speak and act in the most un-Christian way, unsurprisingly to Trump's defense.
 
Christians are coming out of the woodwork to speak and act in the most un-Christian way, unsurprisingly to Trump's defense.
Attaching the name "Christ" to contemporary Christianity is revolting. It has become a political cult in disguise.
 
"A little bit of suffering in your portfolio." I don't recall Trump saying that in the pre-election days. This is not about our kids and grandkids. This is hitting us especially the retired and soon to retire people.
Go to the Pastors web site. You don't find anything about actual Christianity as it is totally and only about politics. Oh yes, it's also dedicated to getting people to give them money. The guy is 98% political and only just religious enough to keep the money flowing. Oh yes. Pretending they are a religious organization makes their money tax free.
 
I think you just proved my point.
If you actually read my posting it is more than obvious I was talking about the U.S. I made multiple references that made this clear. Then of course you ignored this fact so that you could make your point anyway. As for your source I will just point out that it makes it's living by convincing people to give them money. Pretending they are successful is the best way to get people to keep giving them money.

I didn't prove your point at all. I knew you were talking about the U.S. but I'm pretty sure you thought Christianity in it's entirety was declining. Most non-believers are convince religion is beomring extinct...it's not. Atheists are the ones out of step with the world.
 
Much of American Christianity is broken.

Quakers and a few other tiny denominations are still based... but yeah, vast majority of American Christianity is a scourge on country and planet.
 
I didn't prove your point at all. I knew you were talking about the U.S. but I'm pretty sure you thought Christianity in it's entirety was declining. Most non-believers are convince religion is beomring extinct...it's not. Atheists are the ones out of step with the world.
How interesting that you call me a non-believer. It seems that all MAGA's think that if you actually believe in the teachings of Christ and not in the teachings of Trump you must be a non-believer. I see it the other way around. You cannot pretend to believe in Jesus if you don't believe what he taught.
Please name a teaching of Christ that Trump follows. Or that MAGA follows. Explain your beliefs in things like immigration, greed for money and possessions, false testimony and on and on.
 
Christians are coming out of the woodwork to speak and act in the most un-Christian way, unsurprisingly to Trump's defense.
It is mostly the American Evangelicals of Christianity. Most American Evangelicals have embraced Trump's unrepentant sinful ways.
 
It is mostly the American Evangelicals of Christianity. Most American Evangelicals have embraced Trump's unrepentant sinful ways.
As a rule, any religious fundamentalism is fundamentally ****ed up.
 
How interesting that you call me a non-believer. It seems that all MAGA's think that if you actually believe in the teachings of Christ and not in the teachings of Trump you must be a non-believer. I see it the other way around. You cannot pretend to believe in Jesus if you don't believe what he taught.
Please name a teaching of Christ that Trump follows. Or that MAGA follows. Explain your beliefs in things like immigration, greed for money and possessions, false testimony and on and on.

You must not be paying attention, I've never claimed to be a Trump supporter. So much for your mind reading.
 
The deeper the religion, the greater the psychopatholgy.
Yep. Educated people have known this for a couple of centuries now. The founding fathers of this country tried their best to protect us against this as best they could, but hey they could only do so much.

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.

"Mingling religion with politics may be disavowed and reprobated by every inhabitant of America….As an engine of power it serves the purpose of despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or hereafter.”
_Thomas Paine

"All National institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
-Thomas Paine

“During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. What influence in fact have ecclesiastical establishments had on Civil Society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the Civil authority; in many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny: in no instance have they been seen the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty, may have found an established Clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just Government instituted to secure & perpetuate it needs them not.”
-James Madison
 
You must not be paying attention, I've never claimed to be a Trump supporter. So much for your mind reading.
Ah, one of those "it's easy to be a critic" types.
 
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