Global warming is happening, whether conservatives like it or not

[CurrentAffairs]

They don't care about anything other than having their boys in power and attacking anyone with a varied opinion other than their own.

You just described yourself, jfuh.

By the way, it was 9 degrees overnight at my house. Winter came this year, just like it always does. But I'm sure Al Gore appreciates you buying a ticket to the movie.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

You just described yourself, jfuh.

By the way, it was 9 degrees overnight at my house. Winter came this year, just like it always does. But I'm sure Al Gore appreciates you buying a ticket to the movie.

Gardening is one of my hobbies. Well that, and just about anything that gets me outside, like fishing, backpacking, or canoe trips. At any rate, Kansas City, Northeast Kansas, and most of northern Missouri used to be in zone 5. The newest assessments now have it in zone 6, so is Chicago now. This isn’t just the urban heat island effect either, we are talking about areas a hundred miles from the metro being reclassified. It is like you just picked up and moved them 200 miles south over the last 30 years. You can grow trees and plants in this part of the country now that you could not have grown here because the winters used to be much colder, especially the average overnight lows, and growing seasons were shorter. For example, you can grow Crepe Myrtles in Kansas City now. Even ten years ago, Crepe Myrtles hardly grew north of central Arkansas. You can also grow several different hydrangea varieties here that previously would not have made it consistently through the winters. In northern Oklahoma now you can grow live oaks, a tree that 20 years ago would not grow much further north than Dallas. In Dallas and in Southern Arkansas you can now grow some varieties of Palm Trees. Fire ants are now as far north as Little Rock, Arkansas. 10 years ago, it was too cold for them there; they were no farther north than north Texas and northern Louisiana. If our winters keep shorter and milder, in another 10 or 15 years, they will probably be up here.

Anyone who does not think that the climate is warming and warming quite a lot for that matter is deluding themselves at this point.

 

[saggyjones]

You just described yourself, jfuh.

By the way, it was 9 degrees overnight at my house. Winter came this year, just like it always does. But I'm sure Al Gore appreciates you buying a ticket to the movie.

Do you ever take the rest of the world into consideration, or do you look outside and see snow and discredit global warming? Winter is coming later in Europe this year.

The United Nations' World Meteorological Organization says the Alps have as little as one-third the seasonal average of snow. Temperatures from Norway to the Mediterranean are up to 5 degrees warmer than normal.

Austria's Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics announced this week that global warming has driven temperatures in the Alps to their highest in 1,300 years.

FresnoBee.com: Business

 

[jfuh]

Do you ever take the rest of the world into consideration, or do you look outside and see snow and discredit global warming? Winter is coming later in Europe this year.

Apologetics such as ca only care about spreading the sound bites and talking points provided to them by the likes of morons like Limbaugh and O'Rielly. Without those guys these kids would have nothing to talk about and nothing to defend their boy bush.
To them, anyone that disagrees is a terrorist appeaser or America hater.
Global warming to them is a scare that serves to break down the American economy. Funny thing though that this is the only instance where they ever care about the economy.

 

[ptsdkid]

To them, anyone that disagrees is a terrorist appeaser or America hater.
Global warming to them is a scare that serves to break down the American economy. Funny thing though that this is the only instance where they ever care about the economy.

*****The Global Warming scare keeps getting perpetrated because liberals and their enviro-mental whack jobs need another issue in which to empower their agenda over the American people. To give into the Algore et al warming scare--means to give up your tax dollars to chase another Orwellian fantasy. As Rush properly points out--the planet earth has been in existence for millions of years, and to date (despite mother nature's fury)--we're still all here breathing and assuming room temperature despite the ocassional nagging sun burns and the unending attempt by liberals to relieve us of our hard earned money. Why is it that these Global Warming nut cases don't come around and bug me with their hysterics during the winter months up here in New England? A couple of years ago--We suffered through one of the coldest/snowiest winters on record. I know, I should have listened to Algore, and take him on his word that Manhatten and the state of Florida will soon be under water. I know I should have voted for that guy in 2000. LOL! Hey, I give to the guy ringing the Salvation Army bell. Does that count for doing my part in saving our planet?

 

[jfuh]

*****The Global Warming scare keeps getting perpetrated because liberals and their enviro-mental whack jobs need another issue in which to empower their agenda over the American people. To give into the Algore et al warming scare--means to give up your tax dollars to chase another Orwellian fantasy. As Rush properly points out--the planet earth has been in existence for millions of years, and to date (despite mother nature's fury)--we're still all here breathing and assuming room temperature despite the ocassional nagging sun burns and the unending attempt by liberals to relieve us of our hard earned money. Why is it that these Global Warming nut cases don't come around and bug me with their hysterics during the winter months up here in New England? A couple of years ago--We suffered through one of the coldest/snowiest winters on record. I know, I should have listened to Algore, and take him on his word that Manhatten and the state of Florida will soon be under water. I know I should have voted for that guy in 2000. LOL! Hey, I give to the guy ringing the Salvation Army bell. Does that count for doing my part in saving our planet?

Thanks for proving my point:mrgreen:

 

[saggyjones]

*****The Global Warming scare keeps getting perpetrated because liberals and their enviro-mental whack jobs need another issue in which to empower their agenda over the American people. To give into the Algore et al warming scare--means to give up your tax dollars to chase another Orwellian fantasy. As Rush properly points out--the planet earth has been in existence for millions of years, and to date (despite mother nature's fury)--we're still all here breathing and assuming room temperature despite the ocassional nagging sun burns and the unending attempt by liberals to relieve us of our hard earned money. Why is it that these Global Warming nut cases don't come around and bug me with their hysterics during the winter months up here in New England? A couple of years ago--We suffered through one of the coldest/snowiest winters on record. I know, I should have listened to Algore, and take him on his word that Manhatten and the state of Florida will soon be under water. I know I should have voted for that guy in 2000. LOL! Hey, I give to the guy ringing the Salvation Army bell. Does that count for doing my part in saving our planet?

Lol I rang a bell this year for the Salvation Army.


About global warming, how can you refute this evidence:

^^^1. Massive melting

Carbon dioxide levels are substantially higher now than at any time in the last 800,000 years, the latest study of ice drilled out of Antarctica confirms.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Deep ice tells long climate story

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Apologetics such as ca only care about spreading the sound bites and talking points provided to them by the likes of morons like Limbaugh and O'Rielly. Without those guys these kids would have nothing to talk about and nothing to defend their boy bush.
To them, anyone that disagrees is a terrorist appeaser or America hater.
Global warming to them is a scare that serves to break down the American economy. Funny thing though that this is the only instance where they ever care about the economy.

As usual, jfuh tries to attack another poster instead of debating the issue. Allow me to point out the lies within this one post.

First, I do not listen or watch Limbaugh or ORielly.
Second, I have never called anyone a terrorist appeaser or an America hater.

So I guess you're the one spreading soundbites. Nice try, doofus!

 

[jfuh]

As usual, jfuh tries to attack another poster instead of debating the issue. Allow me to point out the lies within this one post.

First, I do not listen or watch Limbaugh or ORielly.
Second, I have never called anyone a terrorist appeaser or an America hater.

So I guess you're the one spreading soundbites. Nice try, doofus!

Interesting how you do not refute any of the other points - what other points?

Global warming to them is a scare that serves to break down the American economy. Funny thing though that this is the only instance where they ever care about the economy.

It's because you have no basis to refute this and various other facts that have been brought up here that you choose to attack the poster as opposed to the content. Notice that you were not singled out in my post? merely an example of the apologetics (which you didn't refute either), you could say I made an invalid generalization; which in itself is amusing seeing as the points you and other apologetics bring up against global warming are eerily similar to the talking points of limbaugh and orielly.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Interesting how you do not refute any of the other points - what other points? It's because you have no basis to refute this and various other facts that have been brought up here that you choose to attack the poster as opposed to the content. Notice that you were not singled out in my post? merely an example of the apologetics (which you didn't refute either), you could say I made an invalid generalization; which in itself is amusing seeing as the points you and other apologetics bring up against global warming are eerily similar to the talking points of limbaugh and orielly.

You didn't single me out, jfuh? Please, allow me to point out another of your blatent lies:

"Apologetics such as ca only care about spreading the sound bites and talking points provided to them by the likes of morons like Limbaugh and O'Rielly. Without those guys these kids would have nothing to talk about and nothing to defend their boy bush. To them, anyone that disagrees is a terrorist appeaser or America hater. Global warming to them is a scare that serves to break down the American economy. Funny thing though that this is the only instance where they ever care about the economy."

And I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I don't listen to those radio pundits....regardless of how often you spread the lie.

My father used to say that "some people lie even when the truth sounds better." Looks like he was right.

 

[saggyjones]

As usual, jfuh tries to attack another poster instead of debating the issue. Allow me to point out the lies within this one post.

First, I do not listen or watch Limbaugh or ORielly.
Second, I have never called anyone a terrorist appeaser or an America hater.

So I guess you're the one spreading soundbites. Nice try, doofus!

Why don't you refute my post on this thread? You seem to be really good at criticizing other people but terrible at backing up what you say.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Why don't you refute my post on this thread? You seem to be really good at criticizing other people but terrible at backing up what you say.

What did I say that needs backing up? Do you want a weather report from my neighborhood? Okay, on the day I posted, it was 11 degrees. Here's the link.
Yesterday's Weather - Local Weather for Lee's Summit, MO (64081) - weather.com

 

[saggyjones]

What did I say that needs backing up?

Exactly.

Do you want a weather report from my neighborhood? Okay, on the day I posted, it was 11 degrees. Here's the link.
Yesterday's Weather - Local Weather for Lee's Summit, MO (64081) - weather.com

So you look at your neighborhood's temperature and disregard global warming? I feel sorry for you, and I mean that sincerely.

I'll post this again just because I love knowing there's no way you can refute it.

^^^1. Massive melting

Carbon dioxide levels are substantially higher now than at any time in the last 800,000 years, the latest study of ice drilled out of Antarctica confirms.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Deep ice tells long climate story

 

[saggyjones]

Here's an addition to that last post (the editing is really slow):

Of these activities fossil fuel combustion for energy generation causes about 70-75% of the carbon dioxide emissions, being the main source of carbon dioxide emissions.

Carbon dioxide

 

[jfuh]

Here's an addition to that last post (the editing is really slow):

the apologetic neocons here are more concerned with cow farts than any science.

 

[saggyjones]

the apologetic neocons here are more concerned with cow farts than any science.

:2rofll: I concur

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Exactly.

Why ask me to back up what I say if you concur that I haven't made an assertion that needs backing up? I think you're confused.

So you look at your neighborhood's temperature and disregard global warming? I feel sorry for you, and I mean that sincerely.

I think you missed the sarcasm.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

the apologetic neocons

This must be your new favorite phrase, since you put it in most of your posts now. What happened to Bushnevik? :lol:

Hey jfuh, I tried to do as you suggested but I couldn't find Bush on the ballot.

 

[jfuh]

This must be your new favorite phrase, since you put it in most of your posts now. What happened to Bushnevik?

Hey jfuh, I tried to do as you suggested but I couldn't find Bush on the ballot.

Could've wrote him in if you were that determined - bushnevik.
Now you got anything to add to the topic at hand or are you going to keep on trolling to derail the thread.
Anything other than a response to the thread topic will be ignored as trolling.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Anything other than a response to the thread topic will be ignored as trolling.

Another classic jfuh LIE, because I did contribute to the topic about six pages back. Let me translate for those who haven't had the pleasure of debating with you. This is what jfuh really means:

Anything other than a response WHICH AGREES WITH MINE will be ignored as trolling.


Isn't that about right, jfuh?

 

[saggyjones]

Why ask me to back up what I say if you concur that I haven't made an assertion that needs backing up? I think you're confused.

Hmm, good point. But you haven't added anything to the thread except criticizing jfuh, and that's what I was trying to say.

I think you missed the sarcasm.

Yes, I did, because I've heard that from people before.

So do you believe global warming is happening? If so, do you believe humans are contributing a significant amount? Just curious.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Hmm, good point. But you haven't added anything to the thread except criticizing jfuh, and that's what I was trying to say.

That's because unlike many posters, I do not cower and hide when jfuh makes his personal attacks. I stand up to him and point out his lies and inconsistencies until he either runs off or begins namecalling - using one of his trademark names (bushnevik or apologetic...whatever name danarhea supplies him). Eventually he runs off and the thread gets back on track.

With regard to adding to the thread, I'd suggest reading the thread over again and you'll find where I was contributing until jfuh began his attacks.

 

[saggyjones]

That's because unlike many posters, I do not cower and hide when jfuh makes his personal attacks. I stand up to him and point out his lies and inconsistencies until he either runs off or begins namecalling - using one of his trademark names (bushnevik or apologetic...whatever name danarhea supplies him). Eventually he runs off and the thread gets back on track.

With regard to adding to the thread, I'd suggest reading the thread over again and you'll find where I was contributing until jfuh began his attacks.

This is your first post on this thread (pg 6):

You just described yourself, jfuh.

By the way, it was 9 degrees overnight at my house. Winter came this year, just like it always does. But I'm sure Al Gore appreciates you buying a ticket to the movie.

I also read through the rest of your posts, and the bold part of this post is the only thing that relates to the thread. Apparently it was sarcasm, so it's still not even a good answer.

You forgot to answer my question. So do you believe global warming is happening? If so, do you believe humans are contributing a significant amount? Just curious.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

I also read through the rest of your posts, and the bold part of this post is the only thing that relates to the thread.

Once again, the thread topic was derailed when jfuh started shooting off his mouth and attacking others. I trust it will get back on track now.

I suppose my remark about it being 9 degrees was said tongue-in-cheek. But it also describes my view of the entire global warming conspiracy.

 

[saggyjones]

I suppose my remark about it being 9 degrees was said tongue-in-cheek. But it also describes my view of the entire global warming conspiracy.

Please tell me how you can refute these stats:

^^^1. Massive melting

Carbon dioxide levels are substantially higher now than at any time in the last 800,000 years, the latest study of ice drilled out of Antarctica confirms.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Deep ice tells long climate story

Of these activities fossil fuel combustion for energy generation causes about 70-75% of the carbon dioxide emissions, being the main source of carbon dioxide emissions.

Carbon dioxide

Carbon dioxide output, caused by humans burning fossil fuels, have drastically raised in recent years, as shown by the graph and two quotes. Can you explain how global warming isn't happening?