Given the poor health quality of Americans, are you in favor of strategies to improve food quality, reduce processed foods/sugar in our society? (3 Viewers)

[Noodlegawd]

There’s no choice but to subsidize their healthcare. They drive up the total cost of services for everyone. Unhealthy foods need heavily taxed (sin tax).

Why is there no choice?

 

[rahl]

Why is there no choice?

Reality, economics, etc

 

[JMR]

Who knew all it took for them to embrace said nanny state was having it imposed by Dear Leader, and not those damned libs?

Funny how that works, isn't it?

 

[JMR]

Didn't Bloomberg try the soda tax in NYC and get ripped apart by conservatives for trying to use the government to control people's lives?

Yet now we have conservatives basically supporting the same thing

Yes, and Sarah Palin responded by slurping down a Giant Big Gulp to cheers!

 

[Lycanthrope]

Funny how that works, isn't it?

DEAR LEADER WILL RIP THAT THIRSTBUSTER FROM YOUR HANDS AND LEAD YOU TO A HEALTHIER FUTURE, RED STATE 'MURICA!

 

[TamleeB]

I don't see salt as the same problem as many do. But damn. All these chemicals you find in food are what I am concerned with.

I am much more concerned with sugar than salt.

 

[MAGAnificent]

The ACA has kept costs down significantly.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Medicare for all, which is just single payer healthcare, is superior to the current US model.

It would be stupid at an insane level. It would cost the taxpayers 60 trillion dollars just in the first 10 years. And that is a conservative estimate. We can barely handle Medicare for Seniors. Where do you get the faith that we can make it work for everyone?

Every first world nation with single payer provides better care than we do at a fraction of the cost we pay.

I can give you half credit on that one. They absolutely do not provide better care, however what care they do provide, they provide it much cheaper. However, the cheaper comes with rationing and waiting lists.

 

[JMR]

I am much more concerned with sugar than salt.

It is important to monitor both sugar and salt.

It is also important to monitor the endless preservatives and additives that are added to our food in order to give them "shelf life" Things have gotten much worse than years ago. I remember being shocked to learn in the dairy section, that there was "American Cheese". "American Cheese Food". and "American Cheese Food Product". not to mention Velveeta, a whole different choice. That was years ago, but at least they were clearly labelled.

Now we have Soy Oil, a product used in developing bio fuels, added to just about anything you eat. Because we have a lot of soy beans, gotta put them somewhere. Read the label on your bread.

 

[Josie]

I am much more concerned with sugar than salt.

Makes sense. Salt is necessary. Sugar isn't.

 

[Callen]

s also important to monitor the endless preservatives and additives that are added to our food in order to give them "shelf life" Things have gotten much worse than years ago. I remember being shocked to learn in the dairy section, that there was "American Cheese". "American Cheese Food". and "American Cheese Food Product". not to mention Velveeta, a whole different choice

My favorite......edible oil product

 

[TamleeB]

Makes sense. Salt is necessary. Sugar isn't.

Having done a great deal of research, and coming “off” sugar I realized that sugar is an addiction. I also realized a while ago that beef tallow, real butter, and eggs are not “the enemy”. After years of being told to eat fake butter and avoid eggs I am learning an entire much healthier lifestyle.

 

[Hello My Son]

I had a home economics class in middle school. I think the extent of cooking we did was a microwaved baked potato

I think it may be complicated when providing knives to children, even teenagers. Maybe do the same thing they do in prison kitchens and have them tethered

Agreed. Definitely not the place for knife work (or knives in general). They do make some short-cut mincers and dicers that would be better to use in schools. I use them myself when I'm in a rush with food prep (plus, I loathe chopping onions and garlic).

But at least getting the skills of cooking, the spice rack, and some common recipes from scratch. They are, after all, legitimate life skills.

 

[Hello My Son]

Didn't Bloomberg try the soda tax in NYC and get ripped apart by conservatives for trying to use the government to control people's lives?

Yet now we have conservatives basically supporting the same thing

Pretty sure it was the locals in the city who disapproved of the soda/sugar tax policies in large numbers. Conservative pundits definitely panned it too, and likely politicians as well, although I never looked into it at the time. So I'm not sure it was a partisan issue given that deep blue voter bases also hated it.

 

[rahl]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

What is it about reality that you find humorous?

It would be stupid at an insane level. It would cost the taxpayers 60 trillion dollars just in the first 10 years.

Objectively false.

And that is a conservative estimate. We can barely handle Medicare for Seniors. Where do you get the faith that we can make it work for everyone?

Every other first world country that has it manages to just fine.

I can give you half credit on that one. They absolutely do not provide better care, however what care they do provide, they provide it much cheaper.

They objectively provide better care than we do, while also at a fraction of what we pay.

However, the cheaper comes with rationing and waiting lists.

No it doesn’t. And care is rationed in the US already.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Didn't Bloomberg try the soda tax in NYC and get ripped apart by conservatives for trying to use the government to control people's lives?

Yet now we have conservatives basically supporting the same thing

Exactly.

 

[instagramsci]

But at least getting the skills of cooking, the spice rack, and some common recipes from scratch. They are, after all, legitimate life skills.

It may be controversial but I think if you don't know how to cook anything at all you practically aren't a full adult

 

[BrotherFease]

If you are in favor of this but disagree with strategies that have been utilized so far, please share proposals of how we, as a society, could implement changes to improve our health through nutrition.

People need to do more than wearing MAHA hats and clothing.

There are two big problems:

Healthcare is expensive. I am warming up to the idea of MFA with co-pays.

The other people here is that many Americans live an excessive lifestyle. They drive large cars. They eat large proportions. They demand more meat, more diary, and more carbs, but will not touch a dietary vegetable.

 

[Hello My Son]

I am criticizing the hypocrisy of conservatives now wanting to control what people eat.

The flip flop

Sin taxes can work and I am not against them in general.

The polls taken on soda taxes indicated widespread and bipartisan disapproval across the country. It wasn't specifically conservatives.

 

[Citizen]

If you are in favor of this but disagree with strategies that have been utilized so far, please share proposals of how we, as a society, could implement changes to improve our health through nutrition.

What stategies have been used so far?

 

[Lycanthrope]

I am not, at base, against the Trump regime using government power to make it more difficult for Americans to be unhealthy and stay unhealthy by limiting their personal choice and freeberty.

My only question - do MAGAs who support this ask themselves why this is acceptable to them in 2025 but wasn't in 2014?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

What stategies have been used so far?

I know, he starts the thread off assuming there are "strategies".

 

[Phys251]

My answer to the poll is a huge YES!

Only because your side has suddenly claimed to be in favor of healthy foods. When will you petition your Congressperson to stop subsidizing ultraprocessed foods?

 

[Phys251]

I am not, at base, against the Trump regime using government power to make it more difficult for Americans to be unhealthy and stay unhealthy by limiting their personal choice and freeberty.

My only question - do MAGAs who support this ask themselves why this is acceptable to them in 2025 but wasn't in 2014?

Remember when Michelle Obama wanted schoolchildren to eat healthier, and righties lost their minds?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

If you are in favor of this but disagree with strategies that have been utilized so far, please share proposals of how we, as a society, could implement changes to improve our health through nutrition.

Donny is cutting USDA funding for school lunches, SNAP, meals on wheels.....so apparently the strategy is to cut nutrition.

are you in favor of that?

Spoiler: dont peek..

he will say yes, teh are providing bad food.

 

[Gozaburo]

My only question - do MAGAs who support this ask themselves why this is acceptable to them in 2025 but wasn't in 2014?

For what its worth, MAGA is as opposed to Buckleyite Republicans as they are progressive liberals, so there wouldn't be any inconsistency for them in this case. It's maybe the one thing they're consistent on.

Now whether or not they're intelligent enough to realize that all of these former Buckleyite Republicans-turned MAGA grifters are just that - grifters - is an entirely different conversation.