Gina Carano Lawsuit vs. Disney goes to discovery phase after court rejects the Mouse's delay

[Ouroboros]

What defeat? The one you make believed in your frail fantasy?

The defeat of Disney in the courts. Try to keep up.

Disney and Gina reached a mutual agreement. For objective comparison, Trump was adjudicated a sexual abuser and convicted of fraud. That's what getting defeated in court looks like.

Disney didn't dare to put its files into Discovery and had to give in despite having deeper pockets than Carano. If they had had any kind of case they could've even outspent Elon. Now that they've caved, Disney can't appeal, while Trump still has an appeal going against Mad Lib lawfare.

Are you using a non standard defintion of verdict or are you just confused about the facts?

See above for the facts that don't fit your Disney fanfic. Hey, which depiction of Blackness makes Black people look more like moral incompetents, SONG OF THE SOUTH or IRONHEART? I know you'll get the answer wrong, but it's funny to see you squirm.

 

[Ouroboros]

LOL! A civil lawsuit reached a settlement. You do understand that 90-97% of civil lawsuits settle?

A woman sued a company. I imagine that if this was any other woman and any other company, you'd be on the side of the company.

Guess again.

 

[The Brad Dad]

The defeat of Disney in the courts.

It was a settlement. A bit player was given f off money lol

 

[Ouroboros]

It was a settlement. A bit player was given f off money lol

You think Disney gives out lots of f off money on a regular basis?

 

[Slartibartfast]

You think Disney gives out lots of f off money on a regular basis?

How much money did she get? She only sought 75k, which isn’t “lots”.

 

[Ouroboros]

How much money did she get? She only sought 75k, which isn’t “lots”.

Since you're implying Disney gives out f off money on a regular basis, and since I doubt that, let's see some evidence of their past concessions.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Since you're implying Disney gives out f off money on a regular basis, and since I doubt that, let's see some evidence of their past concessions.

You are asking whether Disney settles lawsuits? I am sure they do as do more corporations. Also I already gave the necessary evidence in the citation of the initial damages sought.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Gina Carano Gets Another Big Win Against Disney As Court Rejects Disney's Attempt To Block Discovery As It Appeals To Dismiss The Case

Gina Carano got another big win in her lawsuit against The Walt Disney Company and Lucasfilm as Judge Sherilyn Peace Garnett rejected Disney's request to block discovery as it appealed its failed motion to dismiss to the Ninth Circuit Court.

thatparkplace.com

Awesome news, and a win for womens rights. Disney tried and failed to delay the trial, but now all the juicy internal stuff will be coming out. Carano has already won, because this is what she wanted all along: to expose the corruption within this woke company.

Walt must be turning in his grave, as to what his legacy has become.

 

[Ouroboros]

You are asking whether Disney settles lawsuits? I am sure they do as do more corporations. Also I already gave the necessary evidence in the citation of the initial damages sought.

Your fuzzy logic is not evidence. Disney has maintained a high-powered law firm for decades now; they don't give up unless they have extraneous concerns. Usually they can "paper out" any claimant by deluging them with expensive measures, and only Elon's resources ensured that Disney wasn't able to do their usual steamrolling act.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Your fuzzy logic is not evidence. Disney has maintained a high-powered law firm for decades now; they don't give up unless they have extraneous concerns. Usually they can "paper out" any claimant by deluging them with expensive measures, and only Elon's resources ensured that Disney wasn't able to do their usual steamrolling act.

An example of papering out is settling a lawsuit, which is pretty routine for corporations.

 

[Ouroboros]

An example of papering out is settling a lawsuit, which is pretty routine for corporations.

Nope, the proper context of "papering out" is costing your opponent so much in legal fees that the opponent has to give up, and you don't pay anything but your own lawyers, which in the case of Disney means money the company's already spent for the most part, keeping legal hotshots on retainer.

FWIW, "extraneous considerations" can include things like publicity that would negatively affect Disney's income. The company has on some occasions settled with people who got injured on their theme park rides, but that's because the more such cases are covered in the press, the more possible it is that other customers avoid Disney rides. I see no way Carano's suit could hurt Disney's bottom line, and that's why I speculated earlier that Disney doesn't want the court looking at their records of intercompany employee discipline.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Nope, the proper context of "papering out" is costing your opponent so much in legal fees that the opponent has to give up, and you don't pay anything but your own lawyers, which in the case of Disney means money the company's already spent for the most part, keeping legal hotshots on retainer.

FWIW, "extraneous considerations" can include things like publicity that would negatively affect Disney's income. The company has on some occasions settled with people who got injured on their theme park rides, but that's because the more such cases are covered in the press, the more possible it is that other customers avoid Disney rides. I see no way Carano's suit could hurt Disney's bottom line, and that's why I speculated earlier that Disney doesn't want the court looking at their records of intercompany employee discipline.

Corporations typically settle. Usually around 1% of civil cases actually go to trial. Given that, it’s expected for a case like this to settle. As it’s about as routine as having milk with your cereal, it’s not some sort of victory for anyone.

I realize you went on your weird tangent to try to distract from the point and I will just continue discussing that point while seeing if you can come back to the discussion. The point being that settling a civil suit is not at all unusual.

Going, Going, But Not Quite Gone: Trials Continue to Decline in Federal and State Courts. Does it Matter?

There were 20,581 trials in federal district courts in 1997 and 11,754 in 2016. By this measure, trials diminished by approximately 43% in just under 20 years.

judicature.duke.edu

 

[Lord of Planar]

Corporations typically settle. Usually around 1% of civil cases actually go to trial.

Wow.

Are you finally realizing that after all these times you have said president Trump is guilty, when he settled?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Wow.

Are you finally realizing that after all these times you have said president Trump is guilty, when he settled?

Ask you asking about my stances as a legal determination or social determination?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Ask you asking about my stances as a legal determination or social determination?

Too late. You exposed your hypocrisy.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Too late. You exposed your hypocrisy.

Your inability to understand nuance or context does not hypocrisy make.

 

[The Brad Dad]

You think Disney gives out lots of f off money on a regular basis?

Yes. They're a multi billion dollar corp. Carano's idea of f off money is probably a pallet of faygo and crayons to chew.

 

[Ouroboros]

Corporations typically settle. Usually around 1% of civil cases actually go to trial. Given that, it’s expected for a case like this to settle. As it’s about as routine as having milk with your cereal, it’s not some sort of victory for anyone.

If Disney was so eager to settle, why didn't the company do so as soon as Carano filed her suit over a year ago? Disney knew when the suit was filed that Elon Musk was backing Carano, and so they wouldn't be able to paper her out. You underestimate the frequency with which the House of Mouse wins simply by having deeper pockets. Neither of us will ever know precisely why Disney didn't settle back in early 2024, but the fact that they did not disproves your claim that big corporations settle as quickly as falling off the proverbial log.

I realize you went on your weird tangent to try to distract from the point and I will just continue discussing that point while seeing if you can come back to the discussion. The point being that settling a civil suit is not at all unusual.

Going, Going, But Not Quite Gone: Trials Continue to Decline in Federal and State Courts. Does it Matter?

There were 20,581 trials in federal district courts in 1997 and 11,754 in 2016. By this measure, trials diminished by approximately 43% in just under 20 years.

judicature.duke.edu

Under the circumstances the settlement comes at an illogical time, when Disney could have saved time and money by settling a year ago. I don't know why you're seeking to diminish Carano's victory but you are still wrong to do so.

 

[Ouroboros]

Yes. They're a multi billion dollar corp. Carano's idea of f off money is probably a pallet of faygo and crayons to chew.

Same question to you as to Slartibartfast: if settlement meant so little to Disney, why not settle over a year ago?

In your case, all of your posts indicate that your only motive for downgrading Carano's victory is to exercise your knee-jerk reaction to any perceived "conservative" success.

 

[Ouroboros]

Your inability to understand nuance or context does not hypocrisy make.

I too would be fascinated to learn why guilt only applies to lawsuits settled to people you don't like.

 

[Slartibartfast]

If Disney was so eager to settle, why didn't the company do so as soon as Carano filed her suit over a year ago? Disney knew when the suit was filed that Elon Musk was backing Carano, and so they wouldn't be able to paper her out. You underestimate the frequency with which the House of Mouse wins simply by having deeper pockets. Neither of us will ever know precisely why Disney didn't settle back in early 2024, but the fact that they did not disproves your claim that big corporations settle as quickly as falling off the proverbial log.

Under the circumstances the settlement comes at an illogical time, when Disney could have saved time and money by settling a year ago. I don't know why you're seeking to diminish Carano's victory but you are still wrong to do so.

Because the conditions are such now that the parties could come to terms. We don’t know if Corrino was holding out at first for example. Another possibility is that Corrino could only afford lawyers for a certain period of time. Another possibility is that a Disney wants to clean up its liabilities list for unrelated reasons. Another possibility is that someone retired and legal strategy shifted. The point being is that these details are not published and filing in the gaps with some sort of maga narrative is pretty obvious.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I too would be fascinated to learn why guilt only applies to lawsuits settled to people you don't like.

People make social judgments. A lot of people think Biden or Obama are guilty of stuff I disagree about. That’s life.

 

[phoenix2020]

I too would be fascinated to learn why guilt only applies to lawsuits settled to people you don't like.

Given your failure before @Slartibartfast, is there any chance you can regale us with some of your Mad Libs stuff? I know how you adore your name-calling skills which I hear get good ratings amongst the 5th graders. It would be great to see you deploy your Mad Libs bit as a debate tactic under real-world conditions.

 

[Ouroboros]

Because the conditions are such now that the parties could come to terms.

In what way?

We don’t know if Corrino was holding out at first for example.

Holding out for what?

Another possibility is that Corrino could only afford lawyers for a certain period of time.

I covered that possibility in stating that Musk backed Carano's play from the first.

Another possibility is that a Disney wants to clean up its liabilities list for unrelated reasons. Another possibility is that someone retired and legal strategy shifted. The point being is that these details are not published and filing in the gaps with some sort of maga narrative is pretty obvious.

Ah, so many possibilities. Your dedication to all these fuzzy possibilities would be more impressive if you understood what the "maga narrative" is: that Disney broke the law by firing an employee for political statements, remained arrogantly attached to their crime no matter what anyone said, and finally caved when they were confronted by someone else with deep pockets.

 

[Ouroboros]

People make social judgments. A lot of people think Biden or Obama are guilty of stuff I disagree about. That’s life.

But the topic Lord of Planar raised was whether or not settling indicates guilt. That's not a response to specific accusations, but to general principles.