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German government asks Lockheed, MBDA to rebid on missile defense system
Thats good news, Germany wants to get rid of the american patriot system and plans its own TLVS system.
Lockheeds first offer was kicked from the table and the company was forced to make a new proposal that allows cooperation with german defense corporation MDBA.
Lockheed agreed on that and issued a 2nd proposal that saw wide cooperation with MDBA.
This proposal was culled from Germany as well. The Germans want a system that grants its military operators maximum national autonomy, meaning the government wants to own the rights to relevant software and hardware without having to consult with Washington to employ or modify the weapon.
In short, Lockheed has to hand over the tech to MDNA or doesnt get the contract.
Lockheed is desperate to get this contract simply because its one of the largest defense deals out there avaivable.
Insiders say that the german government basicly told Lockheed its "do or die" and the fact that Lockheed send a 3rd proposal last week, apepars that they follow the order.
I actually think its refreshing how much politics of our nation has changed in last 4 years. How agressive we push our interests through against US is really something new and i like it.
Thinking further about this:
Normal negotiations between seller and buyer are not political. This situation could become so.
If it does, the transfer of technology will show the positive strength of the alliance; not victory or defeat of either party to the agreement ... historically, it is a tenuous situation based on U.S./China dealings of the last 50 years.
I think Lockheed pretty much suffers from the friction between our government and yours. We want US government out of decission making. Will be interesting
MBDA already make the meteor missile which is the best beyond visual range air to air missile so they already have pretty good knowledge of missile tech.
Meteor (missile) - Wikipedia
I dont think its about the missiles. I guess we want the sensor and guidance technology to check entire sectors of the sky.
The Eurofighter consortium is upgrading the radar and Germany have opted for the same version as Qatar are getting fitted to the newly acquired aircraft while the UK is ordering an even more high tech version.
Europe already has the technical knowhow to build fantastic radars as it was invented in the UK.
German government asks Lockheed, MBDA to rebid on missile defense system
Thats good news, Germany wants to get rid of the american patriot system and plans its own TLVS system.
Lockheeds first offer was kicked from the table and the company was forced to make a new proposal that allows cooperation with german defense corporation MDBA.
Lockheed agreed on that and issued a 2nd proposal that saw wide cooperation with MDBA.
This proposal was culled from Germany as well. The Germans want a system that grants its military operators maximum national autonomy, meaning the government wants to own the rights to relevant software and hardware without having to consult with Washington to employ or modify the weapon.
In short, Lockheed has to hand over the tech to MDNA or doesnt get the contract.
Lockheed is desperate to get this contract simply because its one of the largest defense deals out there avaivable.
Insiders say that the german government basicly told Lockheed its "do or die" and the fact that Lockheed send a 3rd proposal last week, apepars that they follow the order.
I actually think its refreshing how much politics of our nation has changed in last 4 years. How agressive we push our interests through against US is really something new and i like it.
As the article states its about the software.
I thought Germany was lord and master over all things technology wise (the impression you give).
So why then do they need to coerce a major U.S. corporation into giving them missile defense software?
Remember, Germany is the country that put men on the moon....
Because we can. Making good rockets is not same as a missile defense system. I assume they want cut development corners
German government asks Lockheed, MBDA to rebid on missile defense system
Thats good news, Germany wants to get rid of the american patriot system and plans its own TLVS system.
Lockheeds first offer was kicked from the table and the company was forced to make a new proposal that allows cooperation with german defense corporation MDBA.
Lockheed agreed on that and issued a 2nd proposal that saw wide cooperation with MDBA.
This proposal was culled from Germany as well. The Germans want a system that grants its military operators maximum national autonomy, meaning the government wants to own the rights to relevant software and hardware without having to consult with Washington to employ or modify the weapon.
In short, Lockheed has to hand over the tech to MDNA or doesnt get the contract.
Lockheed is desperate to get this contract simply because its one of the largest defense deals out there avaivable.
Insiders say that the german government basicly told Lockheed its "do or die" and the fact that Lockheed send a 3rd proposal last week, apepars that they follow the order.
I actually think its refreshing how much politics of our nation has changed in last 4 years. How agressive we push our interests through against US is really something new and i like it.
I think Lockheed pretty much suffers from the friction between our government and yours. We want US government out of decission making. Will be interesting
Since the end of WWII, the German defense forces have been mostly just a token force. This Rostocker guy is hard to figure out. Is he pissed because Trump made them pay for more of their own defense? If he just wanted a stronger German military, why would he care?
So Rostocker, what is it? EU lover?
Since the end of WWII, the German defense forces have been mostly just a token force. This Rostocker guy is hard to figure out. Is he pissed because Trump made them pay for more of their own defense? If he just wanted a stronger German military, why would he care?
So Rostocker, what is it? EU lover?
As he has posted, a couple of years ago, Rostocker came to the U.S. for a body building competition. He initially was declared the winner in his weight division but the judges then said there had been a mistake and he finished 4th.
Behind three Americans.
Apparently he has hated the United States ever since.
Talk about shallow and petty.
Doesn't sound shallow and petty to me. It sounds he has a legitimate beef.
I thought Germans were legendary for being hard workers. No you suggest they want to "cut corners". .
How very American of you.
Since the end of WWII, the German defense forces have been mostly just a token force. This Rostocker guy is hard to figure out. Is he pissed because Trump made them pay for more of their own defense? If he just wanted a stronger German military, why would he care?
So Rostocker, what is it? EU lover?
You think hating an entire country and ask it’s 300 million people over some body building competition is a legitimate beef.
Why am I not surprised.
When you pay 3000€ for flight and hotel, train hard to be sucesful in your Sport and then get robbed Like that you May understand certain anger
Beside that, i dont hate your country
You've presented no evidence you were "robbed". even then, come on "body building"????
It isn't like you had an Olympic Gold Medal taken away.
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