Hmmm....A bit of arrogance, denial of previous argument, and conflating two different situations to derail the thread....Check, check, and check...You need not 'disclose' your lean for people to know exactly what you are....It's boilerplate.
According to testimony (paraphrased because I am not going to go back and look up an entire trial for the exact phrasing to post in a thread about a totally different case)
TM: What's your problem?! (Approaching Z as he walked back to his truck after losing sight of TM)
Z: I don't have a problem....(Z walking down the path back to his truck, confronted by TM)
TM: You do now!....(TM then clocks Z in the face, knocking him to the ground where TM continues to assault Z)
These are the settled events of that night. Your burden is to show proof that it happened differently, not your opinion, not your supposition, not your own bias but factually prove it happened differently...You can't Mr. MP....
That's a whole lot of "if's" you got there...In court that is known as a 'sustained objection'.
Doesn't matter anymore. That trial is over...No matter your bias and ultimate wish that you could try it again, it is over...Now, can we talk about this case? Or are you still stuck on derailing the thread?
Not a matter of carrying water anymore than you carrying water for the very racists that wanted to fry Z for not letting TM kill him. Yeah, that's right I said racists....When you cloud your judgement, and refuse to accept settled determinations continuing the line taken during the said settled trial, I can only assume that you do so because you are picking the defense you are due to race. And I'll tell you this, black people can be every bit as racists as white people, or hispanic people....So, do us a favor and let's get on to this case if you can, if you can't I don't really care, but start your own tantrum thread about how you don't agree that Z was not guilty, and you can re hash that case til you retire I don't care!
General announcement: Listen people this was a simple story of George Zimmerman getting into an altercation with his current girlfriend, and being arrested for it. NOT the Treyvon Martin case which is settled. I, as the thread starter would appreciate it if those whom want to discuss the current situation that Z finds himself in please stay and discuss it, and those that want to rehash to all boring ends of the earth the TM case, please start your own thread and talk about it there...
MODS please get a handle on the topic of this thread, thank you.
J ... I'm disappointed ... when you start a thread you can't force people to discuss it in the way that you want them to ... for some folks, there is a connection ... let them discuss the issue as they wish ... ignore them otherwise ...
and please don't call the moderators in every time you're unhappy about something ...
I don't and you know that. But this isn't about TM, or o-care or anything other than Z's latest arrest. Now, what say you about that?
According to testimony (paraphrased because I am not going to go back and look up an entire trial for the exact phrasing to post in a thread about a totally different case)
TM: What's your problem?! (Approaching Z as he walked back to his truck after losing sight of TM)
Z: I don't have a problem....(Z walking down the path back to his truck, confronted by TM)
TM: You do now!....(TM then clocks Z in the face, knocking him to the ground where TM continues to assault Z)
These are the settled events of that night. Your burden is to show proof that it happened differently, not your opinion, not your supposition, not your own bias but factually prove it happened differently...You can't Mr. MP....
That's a whole lot of "if's" you got there...In court that is known as a 'sustained objection'.
Doesn't matter anymore. That trial is over...No matter your bias and ultimate wish that you could try it again, it is over...
Now, can we talk about this case? Or are you still stuck on derailing the thread?
General announcement: Listen people this was a simple story of George Zimmerman getting into an altercation with his current girlfriend, and being arrested for it. NOT the Treyvon Martin case which is settled. I, as the thread starter would appreciate it if those whom want to discuss the current situation that Z finds himself in please stay and discuss it, and those that want to rehash to all boring ends of the earth the TM case, please start your own thread and talk about it there...
MODS please get a handle on the topic of this thread, thank you.
as I indicated J ... that's the way some folks want to talk about it ... in fact, I read your exchange with another poster above and I thought it was a very good exchange, both of you making good points ... When Z was found not guilty, I understood the verdict and probably would've voted the same because of reasonable doubt, but I'm pretty sure he murdered TM ... but I'd rather let a guilty man go free than to convict an innocent one ... at the time I predicted on a different Board that sooner or later Z would be arrested, and maybe do jail time, so that's why it is relevant to me ... but I see why you don't think it is ... people think differently about things ...
Weather or not people want to re hash the Martin trial is irrelevant. That trial literally has NOTHING to do with this case.
I tried ... have a good Thanksgiving ... even on our worst day, most of us have a lot to be thankful for ...
Hope you had a happy thanksgiving Mike.
as always, ate too much, in just one day my pants got a little tighter ... but being with my wife, two boys, and my daughter-in-law was well worth it ... hope yours was good as well ... :2party:
I was on the road coming home...As a truck driver, I needed to get the products to their destination for the people...No worries though, Going to have that turkey today! Cooking now....man it smells good.
All right, I've about had it with this dude....Enough already Zim....Just move. Change your name, move out of state, and get out of the news....!
Just after he was acquited, I predicted right on this very forum, that he'd be back in the news within a year.
Yeah? What'd you win? :mrgreen:
Confirmation that I can spot a douche-bag a mile away.
I would probably stay at least a mile away.
So what do you think he'll get for this, if anything? I think 30 days + 500 hrs community service, and no weapons.
20 years. It's Florida and a weapon was involved.
I think they have to prove that. If I recall, "no weapon found on scene"....
They found them locked up.I thought they found 5 weapons, including the a gun that matched the description of what the GF described.
They found them locked up.
Maybe, maybe not.Thank you. The guy is almost certainly going to jail. I only wonder how different his life would have been if not for the ridiculous accusations he had to go through RE Trayvon. Those certainly blew his entire world view out of the water - in terms of how justice works.
So what do you think he'll get for this, if anything? I think 30 days + 500 hrs community service, and no weapons.
Are we really sure what happened?
As much as I thought he was whacko from the get go...I have to wonder if she was lying and trying to get her 15 minutes of fame. I think it was more likely that the guy with a history of anger management issues went off, though.
Yeah, I really don't know, I wasn't there at the moment, as none of us were. But, I will say that as long as Z continues to be around situations where he leaves himself vulnerable to be accused of things like this, he is to blame for his own circumstance....Stupidity is not punishable though.
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