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George Conway, other conservatives launch effort to block Trump's reelection

The buck stops in the oval when President opens up surveillance operations (Crossfire Hurricane) on political rival....and then end up with a BIG NOTHING BURGER.....FEDS ALWAYS WIN....not this time.

Can you imagine Brennan went to Russian counterparts and told them to knock off the election stuff and didn't approach anyone in Trump campaign...per Barr.

Ah new spin meet the old spin.

If an innocent man has so many witness in which Trump has claimed why aren’t they allowed to testify? I mean the perfect call to be followed up by his people should be a slam dunk?

Right?
 
Ah new spin meet the old spin.

If an innocent man has so many witness in which Trump has claimed why aren’t they allowed to testify? I mean the perfect call to be followed up by his people should be a slam dunk?

Right?

Not how it works......prove guilt....not prove innocence :roll:
 
A lot of farmers disagree with you.
So do a lot of factory workers.

Yeah, he has ****ed over some folk there. But thankfully "socialism" (*cough* bailouts *cough*) can help a little. But the economy is aggregate, and on whole it's doing well. Now, I think there's a difference if you look at wealth disparity and household disposable income, cost of housing and cost of living, etc. And I think if you look there, it's probably a bit different picture. It's probably less that we're all doing better and more that the top 1% is doing really well and the bottom 90% is struggling. But why rain on a parade?

In the end, the news on the economy is overall positive and that will be accredited to Trump. It's something that is a big boon, likely the only boon, for Trump.
 
George needs to ditch her and find a better woman.
Absolutely. Even giving Kellyanne the absolute benefit of a doubt that she doesn’t believe any of the lies/crap she peddles to protect Trump, she’s still a terrible person just for doing those things.
 
The buck stops in the oval when President opens up surveillance operations (Crossfire Hurricane) on political rival....and then end up with a BIG NOTHING BURGER.....FEDS ALWAYS WIN....not this time.

Can you imagine Brennan went to Russian counterparts and told them to knock off the election stuff and didn't approach anyone in Trump campaign...per Barr.
You guys keep getting your hopes that one of Trump’s sycophants will unearth catastrophic information on any Democrat or Democrats as a whole and it never happens. Sure, some embarrassing stuff comes out, but nothing compared to the utter corruption and criminality of Trump and his folks.
 
Stopped??

From hammering Russia?
From trying to stop corruption in Ukraine?
Stopped from making our economy better?

What for?

How about trump tries stopping some of the corruption in his own administration. Hammering russia, thanks for the laugh. Let's ask the farmers how they think the economy is treating them? What would they be doing if they hadn't gotten their nanny state checks?
 
i doubt that too many minds are going to be changed at this point. the best bet is to send more kids to college to prevent another quarter wit hustler from duping them. educated people were a lot less likely to fall into Tweetycult, aside from the significantly wealthy who wanted and received another bite at the treasury.

So that's why whoever from tennessee wants to ban higher education.
 
Impeachment is going very well. Removal in the Senate which is a snake pit of GOP blind obedience to corrupting the Constitution and evading their Constitutional authorities and responsibilities even as doing so denigrates their own institution is another story.

Kangaroo court I believe the republicans have been calling these proceedings. When it moves to the senate after trump is impeached today or tomorrow, depending on how much the republicans try slowing down the process, that's when we'll see the real kangaroo court in action. A trial with no witnesses to testify, interesting.
 
So that's why whoever from tennessee wants to ban higher education.

as i understand it, yes. however, i don't think that's a mainstream position even among Tweetyborg.
 
Good luck,you'll need it.
(spoiler)
Quit while you're ahead. it's not going to work. Trump 2020 is on the way. You'll do better stopping the impeachment folly.

Tell us if you would. How would stopping the impeachment process help the democrats?
 
Very apropos to the faith that people put in their leaders in the FBI, DOJ and CIA only to find they tried to illegally remove a duly elected president. We need to be vigilant in making sure that rogue bad actors do not try to overthrow our president no matter what party he/she is from. Too many investigators thought he was an illegitimate president and that their agenda was the best and they needed to destroy him anf felt it was for the good of mankind. IOW, arrogant, elitist, self important career gubment workers.

Let me remind you and every other republican, trump lost the popular vote. In case you can't decipher what that means, more people voted for clinton. Duly elected by the electoral college. Two presidential elections lost by the electoral college. If that happened to the republicans you can bet your bottom dollar they would be up in arms to get rid of the electoral college.
 
Don't forget Durham Report drops in spring:2wave:

How convenient to know when the report is going to be finished. So far all the reports that were supposed to clear the president have gone up in smoke. Why are you expecting something different this time?
 
Yes because Obama authorized "Crossfire Hurricane" and the buck stops with him spying on a Presidential campaign with FISA warrants..... makes Watergate look like kids play.

Dems can enjoy that stain for a lifetime

Didn't the IG's report just debunk all of that spying stuff? It's funny how all Barr has to do is say he thinks there was spying and low and behold all the republicans grab onto it like it's fact.
 
Hardly.

Janitors are never blamed for the mess the children left for them.

What? Remember deflategate with the patriots? Yeah, the janitor was blamed. It's always the lowest on the totem pole who get blamed.
 
Zelensky himself stated he did nothing due to pressure.

Yeah, his country is in war with Russia and he needs US backing. Of course he has to publicly agree with Trump even though we all know there was plenty of pressure, even from before the phone call... even as early as May:

Despite his denials, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was feeling pressure from the Trump administration to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden before his July phone call with President Donald Trump that has led to impeachment hearings.

In early May, staff at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, including then-Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, were briefed on a meeting Zelensky held in which he sought advice on how to navigate the difficult position he was in, according to two people with knowledge of the briefings.

He was concerned that Trump and associates were pressing him to take action that could affect the 2020 U.S. presidential race, the people said.

And in fact, has he commenced to investigate the crooked Biden and his corrupt son?

Why would he commence a sham investigation when the pressure is off now? The guy is trying to NOT be corrupt.

However he buckled under Trump pressure and DID setup CNN interview where he was going to publicly announce investigations. Fortunately, this whole scandal came out right before that interview and Trump administration was forced to release the aid, and so Zelensky quickly cancelled it. Why would he cancel it if this were true?

If you are correct, the Senate will convict. Are you serious about saying they will convict?

The truth is staring everyone in the face but Senate Republicans are too beholden to Swampee and peddle laughable excuses that you are eating up.
 
Let me remind you and every other republican, trump lost the popular vote. In case you can't decipher what that means, more people voted for clinton. Duly elected by the electoral college. Two presidential elections lost by the electoral college. If that happened to the republicans you can bet your bottom dollar they would be up in arms to get rid of the electoral college.

Ummm, why do you suppose it is not called United America but IS called The United STATES of America?
 
Yes because Obama authorized "Crossfire Hurricane" and the buck stops with him spying on a Presidential campaign with FISA warrants..... makes Watergate look like kids play.

Dems can enjoy that stain for a lifetime

You have had the meaning of the word spying explained to you several times yet you persist. The Trump Campaign was not spied on. Trump might be idiot enough not to know the plain meaning of the word. But Bill Barr surely does. That makes Barr a lying dog and a partisan hack. I don't know what you are.
 
How convenient to know when the report is going to be finished. So far all the reports that were supposed to clear the president have gone up in smoke. Why are you expecting something different this time?

IG was limited in scope and authority

Durham has access with power to convene grand jury
 
Didn't the IG's report just debunk all of that spying stuff? It's funny how all Barr has to do is say he thinks there was spying and low and behold all the republicans grab onto it like it's fact.

no thats not what the AG said....watch the Pete Williams NBC interview with Barr
 
You have had the meaning of the word spying explained to you several times yet you persist. The Trump Campaign was not spied on. Trump might be idiot enough not to know the plain meaning of the word. But Bill Barr surely does. That makes Barr a lying dog and a partisan hack. I don't know what you are.

Barr and Durham only ones that count....name calling smells desperate to me
 
Stopped??

From hammering Russia?
From trying to stop corruption in Ukraine?
Stopped from making our economy better?

What for?

Hahaha! Trump is concerned about foreign corruption as he digests a $2 million dollar fine for theft from a children's cancer charity, to add to the $25 million he was forced to pay out after his fraudulent 'university' scam was exposed? That's just too rich!
Your economy is due for a bust as inevitably as the sun rises in the morning (explore 'boom bust cycles')
Trump has 'hammered' nobody except the US citizenry, America's reputation and trust in the US.

So much winning!
 
Barr and Durham only ones that count....name calling smells desperate to me

I don't care what smells to you. You need a rhetorical nose for a fact to detect an odor. Without that, its all PROPAGANDA, 24/7.

Your old saw was that Horowitz and Barr and Durham were what mattered. Whoops...one gone. Barr was already a proven partisan hack and now Durham has given up a solid career as a prosecutor to sit in Trump's pocket. Sorry....neither Barr nor Durham matter any longer.
 
Hahaha! Trump is concerned about foreign corruption as he digests a $2 million dollar fine for theft from a children's cancer charity, to add to the $25 million he was forced to pay out after his fraudulent 'university' scam was exposed? That's just too rich!
Your economy is due for a bust as inevitably as the sun rises in the morning (explore 'boom bust cycles')
Trump has 'hammered' nobody except the US citizenry, America's reputation and trust in the US.

So much winning!

You are complaining that Trump made restitution? Can you name the time that Biden made restitution?

Thanks for telling us why you live in mortal dread.
 
I don't care what smells to you. You need a rhetorical nose for a fact to detect an odor. Without that, its all PROPAGANDA, 24/7.

Your old saw was that Horowitz and Barr and Durham were what mattered. Whoops...one gone. Barr was already a proven partisan hack and now Durham has given up a solid career as a prosecutor to sit in Trump's pocket. Sorry....neither Barr nor Durham matter any longer.

Horowitz IG report was not good for FBI...might wanna read it again.
 
I'm a bit surprised at the effort to 'stop' a re-election of Trump. Over the past 3 years, Trump voters have been scolded by the media that they had it wrong, and now the democrats are impeaching. This certainly would conspire to make Trump voters change their tune and vote for the "correct" party come 2020 - no special effort required.

The only people that still like Trump are the 1500 or so toothless white meth addicts in an old coal mining town in Kentucky anyway - right? 99.9% of the population loves democrats because dems are "for" the 99.9%.
 
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