Gen. Kelly next to be purged ? General: Border crisis threatens U.S. existence

[APACHERAT]

Last night I received an e-mail from a buddy who said watch, "the Obama administration isn't to happy with Gen. Kelly's warnings and I bet you that Gen. Kelly is now on Obama's hit list to be purged from the military.

Then this morning I heard basically the same thing on the radio.

This has to do with the southern border that Obama claimed were secured and Obama's created illegal alien jihad on our borders.

So I decided to search and find out who's covering this.

General: Border crisis threatens U.S. existence

>" America’s porous southern border and the recent surge in illegal immigration is more than just a “humanitarian crisis,” claims the top U.S. general in charge of Central and South America, it’s a threat to the United States’ very existence.

Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly is commander of the U.S. Southern Command, or SOUTHCOM, charged with responsibility for the Caribbean Sea and all lands south of Mexico.

Particularly in regards to the drug trade, murder rates and terrorist activity brewing in Central America, Kelly says, the waves of Latin Americans sweeping through Mexico and illegally into Texas presents a threat to the U.S. every bit as serious as Iran or North Korea.

“In comparison to other global threats, the near collapse of societies in [this] hemisphere with the associated drug and [illegal immigrant] flow are frequently viewed to be of low importance,” Kelly said in an interview with Defense One. “Many argue these threats are not existential and do not challenge our national security. I disagree.”

It isn’t the first time Kelly has sounded the alarm. In testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee in March, Kelly complained that budget cuts in recent years have handcuffed the military’s ability to shut down many drug and human trafficking corridors.

“Last year, we had to cancel more than 200 very effective engagement activities and numerous multilateral exercises,” Kelly said, explaining that a full 74 percent of “actionable illicit trafficking events” simply go unanswered, because he doesn’t have the funds or resources to do anything about it.

“I simply sit and watch it go by,” he continued. “And because of service cuts, I don’t expect to get any immediate relief, in terms of assets, to work with in this region of the world.”

Worse yet, he continued, with smuggling routes wide open for business, it’s far more than cocaine or children seeking a better life getting a free pass across the border.

“Clearly, criminal networks can move just about anything on these smuggling pipelines,” Kelly said in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee in February. “Terrorist organizations could seek to leverage those same smuggling routes to move operatives with intent to cause grave harm to our citizens or even quite easily bring weapons of mass destruction into the United States.”

SOUTHCOM’s intelligence assets reveal the possibility is far more than just crying wolf..."<

You have to keep continuing reading this. -> General: Border crisis threatens U.S. existence

 

[Beaudreaux]

Last night I received an e-mail from a buddy who said watch, "the Obama administration isn't to happy with Gen. Kelly's warnings and I bet you that Gen. Kelly is now on Obama's hit list to be purged from the military.

Then this morning I heard basically the same thing on the radio.

This has to do with the southern border that Obama claimed were secured and Obama's created illegal alien jihad on our borders.

So I decided to search and find out who's covering this.

General: Border crisis threatens U.S. existence

>" America’s porous southern border and the recent surge in illegal immigration is more than just a “humanitarian crisis,” claims the top U.S. general in charge of Central and South America, it’s a threat to the United States’ very existence.

Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly is commander of the U.S. Southern Command, or SOUTHCOM, charged with responsibility for the Caribbean Sea and all lands south of Mexico.

Particularly in regards to the drug trade, murder rates and terrorist activity brewing in Central America, Kelly says, the waves of Latin Americans sweeping through Mexico and illegally into Texas presents a threat to the U.S. every bit as serious as Iran or North Korea.

“In comparison to other global threats, the near collapse of societies in [this] hemisphere with the associated drug and [illegal immigrant] flow are frequently viewed to be of low importance,” Kelly said in an interview with Defense One. “Many argue these threats are not existential and do not challenge our national security. I disagree.”

It isn’t the first time Kelly has sounded the alarm. In testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee in March, Kelly complained that budget cuts in recent years have handcuffed the military’s ability to shut down many drug and human trafficking corridors.

“Last year, we had to cancel more than 200 very effective engagement activities and numerous multilateral exercises,” Kelly said, explaining that a full 74 percent of “actionable illicit trafficking events” simply go unanswered, because he doesn’t have the funds or resources to do anything about it.

“I simply sit and watch it go by,” he continued. “And because of service cuts, I don’t expect to get any immediate relief, in terms of assets, to work with in this region of the world.”

Worse yet, he continued, with smuggling routes wide open for business, it’s far more than cocaine or children seeking a better life getting a free pass across the border.

“Clearly, criminal networks can move just about anything on these smuggling pipelines,” Kelly said in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee in February. “Terrorist organizations could seek to leverage those same smuggling routes to move operatives with intent to cause grave harm to our citizens or even quite easily bring weapons of mass destruction into the United States.”

SOUTHCOM’s intelligence assets reveal the possibility is far more than just crying wolf..."<

You have to keep continuing reading this. -> General: Border crisis threatens U.S. existence

Here's an article from Defense One that says SecDef Hagel agrees with him and backs him up. That's gonna make for a rough weekend dinner at the White House.

 

[MMC]

Here's an article from Defense One that says SecDef Hagel agrees with him and backs him up. That's gonna make for a rough weekend dinner at the White House.

Heya Beaudreaux :2wave: Looks like Kirby also will back Hagel and Kelly's assessment. From your link.


“He certainly shares [Marine Corps Gen. John] Kelly’s concerns about the threats emanating from the south, particularly from transnational criminal networks, which are causing a lot of the instability, which is encouraging these young children and their families to flee,” said Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby on Tuesday. “He absolutely shares that concern.”

The administration has scrambled to respond to the growing humanitarian crisis, and on Tuesday formally requested $3.7 billion in emergency funding from Congress, almost twice the amount that reports last week initially indicated would be requested. In the spring, Kelly asked Congress for more resources, saying his forces cannot act on a large majority of illicit trafficking events due to a lack of assets and citing growing concerns about U.S. security.


“All this corruption and violence is directly or indirectly due to the insatiable U.S. demand for drugs, particularly cocaine, heroin and now methamphetamines,” Kelly continued, “all of which are produced in Latin America and smuggled into the U.S. along an incredibly efficient network along which anything – hundreds of tons of drugs, people, terrorists, potentially weapons of mass destruction or children – can travel, so long as they can pay the fare.”.....snip~


Has anyone checked BO's schedule? He may have booked himself out of town for this weekend.

 

[APACHERAT]

Here's an article from Defense One that says SecDef Hagel agrees with him and backs him up. That's gonna make for a rough weekend dinner at the White House.

So far I only see the military news and blogs covering this story and conservative websites.
The liberal MSM still have to protect their boy in the White House so they are refusing to cover the story.

Trying to remember who on the radio this morning mentioned that the Obama White House aren't happy with Gen. Kelly's comments before Congress and he might be next to be purged from the military by Obama ?

Every day I remember that Lt. General at a social event I attended back in early 2010 when he said off the record, "Obama is a national security risk."

If Obama were have secured our borders and enforced our laws that are already on the books and hadn't gone around Congress to write his own immigration policies by using Executive Orders, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. We as a nation would probably be safer today.

Did you noticed Gen. Kelly's comments about M-13 ?

 

[Redress]

And the next commandant of the marines will be a lesbian...

Your batting average is pretty bad.

 

[ludin]

He will be gone in a month. that has been about the way it goes with the president and military leaders that disagree with him.

 

[Tangmo]

He will be gone in a month. that has been about the way it goes with the president and military leaders that disagree with him.

When did Gen Kelly say he disagreed with his CnC Prez Obama? What did he say?

When did Prez Obama say he disagreed with Gen Kelly? What did Prez Obama say in this respect?

Gen Kelly has made several appearances before the Congress to say to the Congress everything in the OP. Gen Kelly has said everything reported in the OP to the Congress, and has said it repeatedly. Gen Kelly has tirelessly pleaded to the Congress to fund the U.S. Southern Command. Gen Kelly speaks for Prez Obama, SecDef Hagel and the U.S. government as a whole and secondarily for the government's civilian border protection agencies. Everything Gen Kelly says is consistent with the mission assigned to the general and the Southern Command.

There's no disparity between Prez Obama and Gen Kelly concerning the nature of the problem faced by Southern Command. Gen Kelly has upped the ante to the Congress by his recent characterization of the challenge as being an "existential" threat to the national security of the United States. Congress agreed sequestration some time ago so it's up to the Congress to accept Gen Kelly's characterizations or to instead offer him only tea and sympathy.

So far I only see the military news and blogs covering this story and conservative websites. The liberal MSM still have to protect their boy in the White House so they are refusing to cover the story.

Trying to remember who on the radio this morning mentioned that the Obama White House aren't happy with Gen. Kelly's comments before Congress and he might be next to be purged from the military by Obama ?

The military news journals and blogs are reporting facts and information without a bias. The blogs and mass media of the far out right sector of U.S. society and politics are instead and without foundation blaring inventions and fantasies such as a military purge or social engineering in the armed services.

Coloring the facts is the pet project of the extreme right wing mass media and audience. Conversely, the agenda of the unrelenting extreme right wing as it's intended to impact the CinC and the military is of no interest to mainstream Americans because there's nothing to it. The constant droning of the colorless extreme right wing is ignored by mainstream America and for good reason, i.e., it's only and exclusively the concoctions of the extreme right sector.

very day I remember that Lt. General at a social event I attended back in early 2010 when he said off the record, "Obama is a national security risk."

The 3-star has since been purged, right? Tell us all about it.

If Obama were have secured our borders and enforced our laws that are already on the books and hadn't gone around Congress to write his own immigration policies by using Executive Orders, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. We as a nation would probably be safer today.

What you say is opinion so you are entitled to it, along with the rest of us. Still, I'd suggest you need to advise Speaker Boehner to pass an immigration bill, something he and his House haven't done for six years. The bill has been passed in the Senate and is awaiting disposition by the House. The ball is in their court.

 

[APACHERAT]

BREAKING NEWS !

UPDATE:

As usual, the incompetent CnC Obama again ignores the military and a General (Gen. Kelly, USMC) and instead listens to Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice for his national security advice.

Our borders will remain open and hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens will be allowed into our communities and wait for amnesty.

Despite Pentagon Concerns, Obama Requests No New Military for Border Threat

>" The Obama administration believes there is “no doubt” that the root causes of U.S. border security are a national security concern, a White House official said on Thursday. But President Barack Obama’s nearly $4 billion supplemental request to Congress does not include funding for additional military resources or missions to alleviate those threats at the border or in the Central American countries where the migration of drugs, weapons and humans originates. So far, the official said, there are no active discussions about expanding the military’s role in the region to respond to the crisis.

“There’s no doubt that the relentless efforts on the part of traffickers and smugglers to get drugs, people and weapons into the U.S. undetected is a national security concern,” deputy White House press secretary Shawn Turner told Defense One on Thursday.

“This is a multi-faceted issue. While there are national security concerns, it’s not solely a military issue,” Turner continued. But the White House stopped short of endorsing a top U.S. general’s claim, later supported by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, that the crisis was an “existential” threat to U.S. national security.




Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, commander of U.S. Southern Command, or SOUTHCOM, which is charged with helping protect the southern approaches to the United States, told Defense One last week in a statement that the near collapse of societies in the region, American drug use, and the flow of illegal drugs and undocumented immigrants threaten U.S. security..."<

continue -> Despite Pentagon Concerns, Obama Requests No New Military for Border Threat - Defense One

 

[Tangmo]

BREAKING NEWS !

UPDATE:

As usual, the incompetent CnC Obama again ignores the military and a General (Gen. Kelly, USMC) and instead listens to Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice for his national security advice.

Our borders will remain open and hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens will be allowed into our communities and wait for amnesty.

Despite Pentagon Concerns, Obama Requests No New Military for Border Threat

>" The Obama administration believes there is “no doubt” that the root causes of U.S. border security are a national security concern, a White House official said on Thursday. But President Barack Obama’s nearly $4 billion supplemental request to Congress does not include funding for additional military resources or missions to alleviate those threats at the border or in the Central American countries where the migration of drugs, weapons and humans originates. So far, the official said, there are no active discussions about expanding the military’s role in the region to respond to the crisis.

“There’s no doubt that the relentless efforts on the part of traffickers and smugglers to get drugs, people and weapons into the U.S. undetected is a national security concern,” deputy White House press secretary Shawn Turner told Defense One on Thursday.

“This is a multi-faceted issue. While there are national security concerns, it’s not solely a military issue,” Turner continued. But the White House stopped short of endorsing a top U.S. general’s claim, later supported by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, that the crisis was an “existential” threat to U.S. national security.




Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, commander of U.S. Southern Command, or SOUTHCOM, which is charged with helping protect the southern approaches to the United States, told Defense One last week in a statement that the near collapse of societies in the region, American drug use, and the flow of illegal drugs and undocumented immigrants threaten U.S. security..."<

continue -> Despite Pentagon Concerns, Obama Requests No New Military for Border Threat - Defense One

It is a completely erroneous mischaracterization to say Prez Obama is ignoring Gen Kelly or any of his other commanders of the armed forces or to make the wild and irresponsible claim that the president will fire Gen Kelly for doing his job. There is no disharmony between the commander in chief Prez Obama and Gen Kelly. It's all right sector nonsense and concoctions designed to continually stir the pot.

So let's look at the facts:


Six Observations about SouthCom 'Posture Statement'

Marine Gen. John Kelly, the commander of U.S. Southern Command since November, gave his first testimonies last week to the U.S. Congress. Before the Senate and House Armed Services Committees, he presented the annual “Posture Statement” for SouthCom, the “regional combatant command” that manages all U.S. military activity in the Western Hemisphere (excluding Canada, Mexico and the Bahamas).

Gen. Kelly took command just in time for “sequestration,” the deep cuts in federal spending, including defense spending, that went into effect on March 1, 2013.

Trafficking appears to be moving westward, to the Pacific. The Posture Statement offers these estimates of how trafficking activity has shifted as a result of “Martillo.”

21% drop in aircraft smuggling to Central America (mainly Honduras).
57% drop in aircraft smuggling to Hispaniola island (mainly Haiti).
36% drop in boats smuggling near Central America’s Caribbean coast.
38% drop in boats smuggling on Caribbean high seas near Central America.
71% increase in 2012, but 43% drop so far in 2013, in boats smuggling near Central America’s Pacific coast.
12% increase in 2012, and 51% increase so far in 2013, in boats smuggling on Pacific high seas near Central America.

The “balloon effect,” it would appear, continues to illustrate illicit trafficking activity in the region

Iran’s efforts aren't getting traction in the region,. "I share the Congress’ concerns over Iran’s attempts to increase its influence in the region,” General Kelly says. However,

“The reality on the ground is that Iran is struggling to maintain influence in the region, and that its efforts to cooperate with a small set of countries with interests that are inimical to the United States are waning. In an attempt to evade international sanctions and cultivate anti-U.S. sentiment, the Iranian regime has increased its diplomatic and economic outreach across the region with nations like Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador, and Argentina. This outreach has only been marginally successful, however, and the region as a whole has not been receptive to Iranian efforts.”

SouthCom nonetheless remains vigilant, Gen. Kelly says, even though its “limited intelligence capabilities may prevent our full awareness of all Iranian and Hezbollah activities in the region.”

China is now being explicitly cited as a competitor. Gen. Kelly notes “an unprecedented three naval deployments to Latin America since 2008, including a hospital ship visit in 2011” from China. Whether three deployments in five years should be cause for concern is unclear, but the Commander, mindful of his congressional audience, contrasts them with the current budget cuts:

“China is attempting to directly compete with U.S. military activities in the region. I believe it is important to note that sequestration will likely result in the cancellation of this year’s deployment of the USNS Comfort [a U.S. Navy hospital ship] to the region, an absence that would stand in stark contrast to China’s recent efforts.”

Six Observations about SouthCom 'Posture Statement' - InSight Crime | Organized Crime in the Americas

 

[APACHERAT]

It is a completely erroneous mischaracterization to say Prez Obama is ignoring Gen Kelly or any of his other commanders of the armed forces or to make the wild and irresponsible claim that the president will fire Gen Kelly for doing his job.

According to both former Secretary of Defense Panetta and Gates, the Obama White House doesn't trust the military and leaves the military out of the loop on national security matters.

Obama has a long track record of purging flag officers who are not yes men and who don't support the military being used for liberal social engineering.

Gen. Kelly is not a yes man.

Will the Obama White House go on a witch hunt looking for something to fire Gen. Kelly ? It could be telling a joke that's not PC at the officers club, or spilling a drink at a casino in Vegas or talking like a Marine in front of a private.

More officers with in the U.S. military have been forced to retire or resign their commissions in the past 5 1/2 years during the Obama administration than under any other administration since the end of WW ll. Of those hundreds of flag officers and field grade officers who walked the plank just over two hundred are to believe have been political, that the officer wasn't politically correct enough for Obama's liking.

If Gen. Kelly is fired or relieved of his command within the next 2 1/2 years, you can add Gen. Kelly to the list of over 200 who walked the plank for not being PC. I'm sure Obama already has some 2nd Lt. butter bar from Obama's Moron Officers Corps already in place to fast track up the chain of command to be promoted to a flag officer to relieve Gen. Kelly.

Note: Obama isn't going to use the military to stem the flow of human trafficking or securing our borders. Obama's agenda depends on illegal immigration and open borders.

Gen. Kelly at least has Obama's yes man, Sec. of DoD Chuck Hagel agreeing with the General. I wonder if Hagel will last another 2 1/2 years as Secretary of Defense ?

 

[vesper]

I've been following this administration's actions in regard to the military firings and or forced to retire for about 3 years. It's really quite scary to see these types of things happening and hardly anyone in the media shining a light on it.

 

[Tangmo]

According to both former Secretary of Defense Panetta and Gates, the Obama White House doesn't trust the military and leaves the military out of the loop on national security matters.

Obama has a long track record of purging flag officers who are not yes men and who don't support the military being used for liberal social engineering.

Gen. Kelly is not a yes man.

Will the Obama White House go on a witch hunt looking for something to fire Gen. Kelly ? It could be telling a joke that's not PC at the officers club, or spilling a drink at a casino in Vegas or talking like a Marine in front of a private.

More officers with in the U.S. military have been forced to retire or resign their commissions in the past 5 1/2 years during the Obama administration than under any other administration since the end of WW ll. Of those hundreds of flag officers and field grade officers who walked the plank just over two hundred are to believe have been political, that the officer wasn't politically correct enough for Obama's liking.

If Gen. Kelly is fired or relieved of his command within the next 2 1/2 years, you can add Gen. Kelly to the list of over 200 who walked the plank for not being PC. I'm sure Obama already has some 2nd Lt. butter bar from Obama's Moron Officers Corps already in place to fast track up the chain of command to be promoted to a flag officer to relieve Gen. Kelly.

Note: Obama isn't going to use the military to stem the flow of human trafficking or securing our borders. Obama's agenda depends on illegal immigration and open borders.

Gen. Kelly at least has Obama's yes man, Sec. of DoD Chuck Hagel agreeing with the General. I wonder if Hagel will last another 2 1/2 years as Secretary of Defense ?

I've addressed the right sector campaign concerning the dismissal of military officers, documenting that the dismissals over the past several years of flag rank officers especially and in particular have occurred for valid reasons.

The right sector repeating its agenda to try everywhere to separate Prez Obama from the U.S. military will not validate the bogus nature or character of the agenda, nor will ordinary Americans be convinced only because the right sector and its extremist media say the same thing over and over again.

The facts are there is no specific documentation whatsoever that the top brass screw-ups that are gone were dismissed for reasons other than their being high muckety-muck screw-ups.

There is absolutely no evidence or even the slightest indication that Prez Obama and Gen Kelly have any discord between them. The very same is true of the president and SecDef Chuck Hegel. There is absolutely no documentation to even suggest a discord. There are only the usual rumbles from the far right sector mass and online media. When I was in the Army not everyone had voted for the guy who was elected president, so there are always those in the military that personally dissent but who obey their oath and adhere to the UCMJ and to the constitution.

The absence of evidence to support unsupportable claims has resulted in a desperation to extend the time frame for some concocted discord or even a dismissal of Gen Kelly and also SecDef Hegel to upwards of some time during the next 2-1/2 years, which is a wildly deep lunge in to a future period of time none of us know and which some can make Kreskin-like predictions about.

So the bottom line is that Prez Obama and the Pentagon and of course Gen Kelly himself are careful about using the U.S. military in Latin America. This is so for real and specific reasons, as noted by a retired Air Force officer, Latin American specialist and former senior Latin America and border security analyst for the State of California, Sylvia Longmire:

The U.S. doesn’t exactly have a positive image—or track record—in many parts of South America. The U.S. has been the dominant player and “big brother” to the North for almost two centuries, with a long history of intervention in South American politics and economic matters. The U.S. government has taken a more hands-off approach to South America in the years since 9/11, as matters in the Middle East have taken precedence. The U.S. also tends to have a short-term memory at times, whereas South Americans remember the effects of U.S. intervention in their countries, often well before they were born. While the Obama Administration is taking a very conciliatory approach with South American leaders, almost 200 years of bad blood cannot be erased in a few months.

Colombia: A misunderstanding of hemispheric proportions - National South America Policy | Examiner.com



And, as noted as a part of the Defense One article quoted below:

"Historically, U.S. security forces have played a dark role in the struggles of Central America, and Kelly said the military has refined its mission there to be “sensitive to perceptions of militarization of the region.” Much of the most recent relationship with the region has remained focused on military assistance to fight the drug war. The extent of joint operations with the American DEA, FBI, CIA and military and their Central and South American counterparts is unprecedented. Much of U.S. assistance to Mexico and Central America has come under the Merida Initiative, intended to strengthen these countries’ own security capabilities. Since Congress first funded Merida in 2008, lawmakers have appropriated about $2.4 billion to Mexico and approved Mexico’s purchase of 18 Blackhawk helicopters.

"Given the concerns about militarization and “minimal Department of Defense resources” to confront security threats deeply rooted in social issues, Kelly said that the U.S. military mission in Central America has redirected its focus to the institutions in those countries that are involved in border and maritime security."

Top General Says Mexico Border Security Now

 

[APACHERAT]

I've addressed the right sector campaign concerning the dismissal of military officers, documenting that the dismissals over the past several years of flag rank officers especially and in particular have occurred for valid reasons.

No you haven't you're just defending an incompetent CnC who's using the military for social engineering.

Officers and even SNO's and NCO's have been targeted for political witch hunts to find something to relieve them from their commands under the disguise of a "valid reason."

You can pick any swinging dick or bouncing titties with in the Officers Corps and search for a valid reason to have them walk the plank, ending their military careers for a political reason.

The vast majority of the 200 who were forced out of the military by the Obama White House would still be on duty if any other person was in the White House. The 200 isn't part of the hundreds of officers who were relieved of command and forced out of the military for legitimate reasons.

You can go out in the civilian world and pick any individual on the streets and observe and dig and find a law or regulation they have violated or broke.

You don't relieve a Lower Admiral who's out in the middle of the Pacific because he used the word "****" on the bridge of a warship. The Admiral was singled out right after four Americans were murdered in Benghazi, because the Admiral commented to some of the officers under his command that he was pissed nothing was done to save these Americans. One of the junior officers was probably a lib and dropped a dime.

You don't fire a warrior, a Marine colonel because of pigs just to pay off a political debt to PETA for supporting Obama. But that's what happened.
One of the 200 who have been purged for political reasons. -> Did Pigs Get a U.S. Marine Colonel Fired? | Hawaii Reporter
Conduct a witch hunt, all real Marines drink, we should be able to dig up something. Aye Aye Mr President.

Not part of the 200 who have been purged.

A BIG DOUBLE-STANDARD OF JUSTICE! - NAVY
DESTROYS CAPT GREG McWHERTER - CODDLES
"HORRIBLE HOLLY" GRAF - THE FORMER BLUE
ANGELS COMMANDER A VICTIM OF POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS - GRAF PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED
SUBORDINATE OFFICERS ON TWO OCCASIONS
SHE GETS TO RETIRE IN-GRADE - McWHERTER'S
LEADERSHIP AND EXPERIENCE SOON TO BE
LOST TO NAVAL SERVICE AND THE NATION

>" No wonder Vladimir Putin and the rest of the world laughs at the United States. They see our preoccupation with political correctness as an amusing, self-destructive policy that only weakens our military.

Famed ADM Chester Nimitz would be spinning in his grave to know what his beloved Navy has become.

The witch-hunt against former Blue Angels commander CAPT Greg McWherter has resulted in a blow to morale and soon will deny America the services of one of her best fighter-pilots.

A Citadel grad, and one of the nation's very best "Top Gun" pilots, McWherter is being forced out because of back-biting Naval officers and enemies at the Pentagon who love to use the ever-convenient club of "political correctness" to destroy their target.

What a bunch of hypocrites! "<
CAPT GREG McWHERTER


I think I'll paint a penis on top of the roof of my BMW.

 

[Tangmo]

No you haven't you're just defending an incompetent CnC who's using the military for social engineering.

Officers and even SNO's and NCO's have been targeted for political witch hunts to find something to relieve them from their commands under the disguise of a "valid reason."

You can pick any swinging dick or bouncing titties with in the Officers Corps and search for a valid reason to have them walk the plank, ending their military careers for a political reason.

The vast majority of the 200 who were forced out of the military by the Obama White House would still be on duty if any other person was in the White House. The 200 isn't part of the hundreds of officers who were relieved of command and forced out of the military for legitimate reasons.

You can go out in the civilian world and pick any individual on the streets and observe and dig and find a law or regulation they have violated or broke.

You don't relieve a Lower Admiral who's out in the middle of the Pacific because he used the word "****" on the bridge of a warship. The Admiral was singled out right after four Americans were murdered in Benghazi, because the Admiral commented to some of the officers under his command that he was pissed nothing was done to save these Americans. One of the junior officers was probably a lib and dropped a dime.

You don't fire a warrior, a Marine colonel because of pigs just to pay off a political debt to PETA for supporting Obama. But that's what happened.
One of the 200 who have been purged for political reasons. -> Did Pigs Get a U.S. Marine Colonel Fired? | Hawaii Reporter
Conduct a witch hunt, all real Marines drink, we should be able to dig up something. Aye Aye Mr President.

Not part of the 200 who have been purged.

A BIG DOUBLE-STANDARD OF JUSTICE! - NAVY
DESTROYS CAPT GREG McWHERTER - CODDLES
"HORRIBLE HOLLY" GRAF - THE FORMER BLUE
ANGELS COMMANDER A VICTIM OF POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS - GRAF PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED
SUBORDINATE OFFICERS ON TWO OCCASIONS
SHE GETS TO RETIRE IN-GRADE - McWHERTER'S
LEADERSHIP AND EXPERIENCE SOON TO BE
LOST TO NAVAL SERVICE AND THE NATION

>" No wonder Vladimir Putin and the rest of the world laughs at the United States. They see our preoccupation with political correctness as an amusing, self-destructive policy that only weakens our military.

Famed ADM Chester Nimitz would be spinning in his grave to know what his beloved Navy has become.

The witch-hunt against former Blue Angels commander CAPT Greg McWherter has resulted in a blow to morale and soon will deny America the services of one of her best fighter-pilots.

A Citadel grad, and one of the nation's very best "Top Gun" pilots, McWherter is being forced out because of back-biting Naval officers and enemies at the Pentagon who love to use the ever-convenient club of "political correctness" to destroy their target.

What a bunch of hypocrites! "<
CAPT GREG McWHERTER


I think I'll paint a penis on top of the roof of my BMW.

Dwight Eisenhower would be Prez Obama's kind of general.....Omar Bradley also......Blackjack Pershing.......Ray Ordierno.........Martin Dempsey.

Bull Halsey would be Obama's kind of Admiral.....Chester Nimitz.....John Paul Jones.....Raymond A Spruance of Midway.

Prez Obama's the guy who got Osama......Obama and Admr William McRaven......Admr Mike Mullen.....Bob Gates.....Hillary Clinton.



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[APACHERAT]

Dwight Eisenhower would be Prez Obama's kind of general.....Omar Bradley also......Blackjack Pershing.......Ray Ordierno.........Martin Dempsey.

Bull Halsey would be Obama's kind of Admiral.....Chester Nimitz.....John Paul Jones.....Raymond A Spruance of Midway.

Prez Obama's the guy who got Osama......Obama and Admr William McRaven......Admr Mike Mullen.....Bob Gates.....Hillary Clinton.



:2usflag:

:roll:

 

[braindrain]

Dwight Eisenhower would be Prez Obama's kind of general.....Omar Bradley also......Blackjack Pershing.......Ray Ordierno.........Martin Dempsey.

Bull Halsey would be Obama's kind of Admiral.....Chester Nimitz.....John Paul Jones.....Raymond A Spruance of Midway.

Prez Obama's the guy who got Osama......Obama and Admr William McRaven......Admr Mike Mullen.....Bob Gates.....Hillary Clinton.



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Every time I hear crap like this I have to laugh. Obama did not get Osama. The US military and intelligence community got him after years of hard work. All Obama did was give the go ahead to a mission that had minimal risk compared to the potential pay off. In reality Bush played just as big a part in getting him as he was the one who went into Afghanistan in the first place. Without that we never would have killed him.
It is just as stupid to say that Obama got Osama as it is to say Bush got Saddam.
Your cheerleading is ridiculous.

 

[Tangmo]

Every time I hear crap like this I have to laugh. Obama did not get Osama. The US military and intelligence community got him after years of hard work. All Obama did was give the go ahead to a mission that had minimal risk compared to the potential pay off. In reality Bush played just as big a part in getting him as he was the one who went into Afghanistan in the first place. Without that we never would have killed him.
It is just as stupid to say that Obama got Osama as it is to say Bush got Saddam.
Your cheerleading is ridiculous.

Trying to say Prez Obama disagrees with General Kelly and does not support Gen Kelly, that President Obama ignores General Kelly, that General Kelly is opposed to Prez Obama, is critical of Prez Obama and will be fired by Prez Obama are the wild, reckless, unsupportable and untoward concoctions of the extreme far right that have no basis in reality.

Trying to say Admiral Nimitz is spinning in his grave because Prez Obama is commander in chief is OTT and is complete and utter extremist right wing :bs .

What you call cheerleading is in fact a historical comparative analysis that stands in stark contrast to the vacuous, scurrilous, specious claims against the president/CnC in respect of General Kelly specifically and generally concerning Prez Obama and the US military high command.

Gates Replaces Top General in Afghanistan

By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced Monday that has he asked for the resignation of Gen. David McKiernan, the top general in Afghanistan. Gates has nominated Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal to replace McKiernan.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates announced yesterday that he had requested the resignation of the top American general in Afghanistan, Gen. David D. McKiernan, making a rare decision to remove a wartime commander at a time when the Obama administration has voiced increasing alarm about the country's downward spiral.

Gates, saying he seeks "fresh thinking" and "fresh eyes" on Afghanistan, recommended that President Obama replace McKiernan with a veteran Special Operations commander, Lt. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal. His selection marks the continued ascendancy of officers who have pressed for the use of counterinsurgency tactics, in Iraq and Afghanistan, that are markedly different from the Army's traditional doctrine.

"We have a new strategy, a new mission and a new ambassador. I believe that new military leadership is also needed," Gates said at a Pentagon news conference. Gates also recommended that Lt. Gen. David M. Rodriguez, a former head of U.S. forces in eastern Afghanistan who is serving as Gates's military assistant, be nominated to serve in a new position as McChrystal's deputy. Gates praised McChrystal and Rodriguez for their "unique skill set in counterinsurgency."

McKiernan, an armor officer who led U.S. ground forces during the 2003 Iraq invasion, was viewed as somewhat cautious and conventionally minded, according to senior officials inside and outside the Pentagon.

Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top commander of U.S. forces in the region, has pressed aggressively to broaden the military's mission in Afghanistan and Iraq beyond killing the enemy to protecting the population, overseeing reconstruction projects and rebuilding local governance. Petraeus played a key role in the Obama administration's strategic review of the Afghanistan conflict and was involved in the decision to remove McKiernan, which Petraeus said in a statement he "fully supports."

The decision to fire McKiernan represents one of a handful of times since President Harry S. Truman's removal of Gen. Douglas MacArthur in 1951 that U.S. civilian leaders have relieved a top wartime commander, and is in keeping with Gates's style of demanding accountability by dismissing senior military and civilian officials for a host of problems, including nuclear weapons mismanagement and inadequate care for wounded troops.

Gen. David McKiernan Ousted as Top U.S. Commander in Afghanistan



Why Obama Had to Fire McChrystal
By Noah Shachtman

In the end, it was Obama’s only move. Keeping General Stanley McChrystal in place would have shattered the chain of command, obliterated the authority Obama had with the military, and undermined any hope of waging a successful counterinsurgency in Afghanistan.

“As difficult as it is to lose General McChrystal, I believe it’s the right one,” the President just said. “The conduct represented in the recently-published article … undermines the civilian control of the military that is at the core of our democratic system. And it erodes the trust that’s necessary for our team to work together to achieve our objectives in Afghanistan.”

No general could’ve taken Obama seriously, after getting dissed so publicly by McChrystal’s crew. No captain or sergeant could’ve been expected to shut up and salute when his superior officer gave an order. The guy at the top didn’t respect his commander; why should he?

The culture of accountability so meticulously built up by Robert Gates during his tenure at the Pentagon — gone. The long tradition of civilian control of the military — wrecked.

For a counterinsurgency to work — and they are hard to pull off — militants need to be challenged along a broad spectrum of conflict: from armed coercion to economic persuasion. And for that to happen, you need a team of diplomats and troops working closely together. That clearly wasn’t happening under McChrystal.

As one civilian advisor to the McChrystal team told Danger Room yesterday: “There are very few things we control in Afghanistan. In every review of COIN [counterinsurgency] best practices, ‘unity of effort’ tops the list. Every. Single, Review. And we’re totally ****ing it up; ****ing up the one thing that should be in our control,” the advisor says. “We can’t control Karzai, or the ANP [Afghan National Police], or the Pakistani tribes, but we should be able to get our **** in one sock, and we’re not.”

It wasn’t an easy choice. Changing generals for the second time in two years like this has the potential to wreak havoc on the Afghan campaign — even with David Petraeus as that successor. But it was the only one

Why Obama Had to Fire McChrystal | Danger Room | WIRED

 

[Tangmo]

The Pentagon is getting a long, looong overdue clearing out and cleaning out initiated by Robert Gates while he was SecDef, carried forward by his successor, Leon Panetta and built upon by the present SecDef and Vietnam war combat veteran Chuck Hegel, the former Republican party senator from Nebraska.

We recall Robert Gates was appointed SecDef by then President G.W. Bush in 2006 from his position as president of Texas Agricultural and Military College. Gates is a Vietnam conflict veteran who was the only CIA director to have begun his career at the CIA as an investigator.


Gates Has a Long, Loooong Record of Firing Generals
By Noah Shachtman

Two months after he became Defense Secretary, Robert Gates fired his first general: the guy in charge of Walter Reed and its moldy, cockroach-infested facilities for housing the wounded. Then Gates fired the secretary of the Army and forced out the Army’s surgeon general. It signaled a massive shift from the Donald Rumsfeld era, when few senior officers were fired for incompetence.

Since then, a whole slew of top officers and senior civilians have been shown the door.

Air Force Chief of Staff General Mike “Buzz” Moseley and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne were booted, after nuclear weapons mishaps and disagreements over spending priorities. Central Command chief Admiral William “Fox” Fallon resigned after an overly-chatty, borderline-insubordinate magazine article.

Gates axed Joint Strike Fighter program manager Major General David Heinz after the stealth jet’s costs went sky high. Vice Admiral John “Boomer” Stufflebeem was fired for providing misleading testimony to Defense Department investigators. Last year, the Defense Secretary relieved the top battlefield commander in Afghanistan, General David McKiernan, over the war’s slow progress.

Gates Has a Long, Loooong Record of Firing Generals | Danger Room | WIRED



Also, from Conservapedia:

American policy was increasing set by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, originally appointed by President Bush in 2006 and reappointed by President Obama in 2009. Gates fired the commander General David McKiernan in May, 2009, replacing him with McChrystal.

In early 2010 Gates insisted on dropping the old strategy of hunting down insurgents and instead adopting a counterinsurgency strategy that focused on protecting local civilians and training Afghan soldiers and police to take over the job. Gates convinced Obama, who ordered 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan in Dec. 2009, with a deadline of 18 months, at which time a transition to Afghan responsibility would begin.

Robert Gates - Conservapedia



Robert Gates wants to eliminate 50 generals

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced plans on Monday to limit the growth of the military budget. The measures include closing a command center, cutting down on the use of contractors, and reducing the number of generals and admirals by 50 over the next two years. How much do generals and admirals cost U.S. taxpayers?

Millions. In terms of salary, benefits, and staff, generals (an Army position) and admirals (the analogous title in the Navy and Coast Guard) are basically equivalent. A brigadier general (the lowest rank for a general) with 20 years of experience earns $137,000 in annual salary, plus a $20,000 allowance—a largely untaxed subsidy for food and housing.

Top generals max out at $180,000 in base salary. If we fired every one of the 963 generals and admirals from the armed forces and didn't replace them or pay their retirement benefits, we could save at most $200 million in direct compensation annually.

The real cost of generals, however, isn't their salary but their entourage. They need a driver, a security detail, someone to manage their communications equipment, and a coterie of assistants, all of whom are high-ranking military officers themselves. It was the loose lips of Gen. Stanley McChrystal's 10-member traveling staff that led to his downfall.

And generals typically don't fly commercial, because of security concerns. There's no precise estimate of the average general's total cost to the taxpayer, but it is certainly well over $1 million annually. In contrast, most colonels fly coach, drive themselves around, and answer their own cell phones.

Retirement pay is also a concern. A four-star general who retires in 2010 with 30 years of service would cost the government more than $3.8 million in pension if he managed to live 20 more years.

Robert Gates wants to eliminate 50 generals from the military. Will that save a lot of money?

 

[Wiggen]

Last night I received an e-mail from a buddy who said watch, "the Obama administration isn't to happy with Gen. Kelly's warnings and I bet you that Gen. Kelly is now on Obama's hit list to be purged from the military.

Then this morning I heard basically the same thing on the radio.

This has to do with the southern border that Obama claimed were secured and Obama's created illegal alien jihad on our borders.

So I decided to search and find out who's covering this.

General: Border crisis threatens U.S. existence

>" America’s porous southern border and the recent surge in illegal immigration is more than just a “humanitarian crisis,” claims the top U.S. general in charge of Central and South America, it’s a threat to the United States’ very existence.

Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly is commander of the U.S. Southern Command, or SOUTHCOM, charged with responsibility for the Caribbean Sea and all lands south of Mexico.

Particularly in regards to the drug trade, murder rates and terrorist activity brewing in Central America, Kelly says, the waves of Latin Americans sweeping through Mexico and illegally into Texas presents a threat to the U.S. every bit as serious as Iran or North Korea.

“In comparison to other global threats, the near collapse of societies in [this] hemisphere with the associated drug and [illegal immigrant] flow are frequently viewed to be of low importance,” Kelly said in an interview with Defense One. “Many argue these threats are not existential and do not challenge our national security. I disagree.”

It isn’t the first time Kelly has sounded the alarm. In testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee in March, Kelly complained that budget cuts in recent years have handcuffed the military’s ability to shut down many drug and human trafficking corridors.

“Last year, we had to cancel more than 200 very effective engagement activities and numerous multilateral exercises,” Kelly said, explaining that a full 74 percent of “actionable illicit trafficking events” simply go unanswered, because he doesn’t have the funds or resources to do anything about it.

“I simply sit and watch it go by,” he continued. “And because of service cuts, I don’t expect to get any immediate relief, in terms of assets, to work with in this region of the world.”

Worse yet, he continued, with smuggling routes wide open for business, it’s far more than cocaine or children seeking a better life getting a free pass across the border.

“Clearly, criminal networks can move just about anything on these smuggling pipelines,” Kelly said in testimony before the House Armed Services Committee in February. “Terrorist organizations could seek to leverage those same smuggling routes to move operatives with intent to cause grave harm to our citizens or even quite easily bring weapons of mass destruction into the United States.”

SOUTHCOM’s intelligence assets reveal the possibility is far more than just crying wolf..."<

You have to keep continuing reading this. -> General: Border crisis threatens U.S. existence

"Blah, blah, blah...Obama!....Blah, blah, blah,...Obama!....Blah, blah, blah...treason!...Blah, blah, blah...Border invasion!...Blah, blah, blah...Obama!"

Your song never changes, does it?

 

[braindrain]

Trying to say Prez Obama disagrees with General Kelly and does not support Gen Kelly, that President Obama ignores General Kelly, that General Kelly is opposed to Prez Obama, is critical of Prez Obama and will be fired by Prez Obama are the wild, reckless, unsupportable and untoward concoctions of the extreme far right that have no basis in reality.

Trying to say Admiral Nimitz is spinning in his grave because Prez Obama is commander in chief is OTT and is complete and utter extremist right wing :bs .

What you call cheerleading is in fact a historical comparative analysis that stands in stark contrast to the vacuous, scurrilous, specious claims against the president/CnC in respect of General Kelly specifically and generally concerning Prez Obama and the US military high command.

Gates Replaces Top General in Afghanistan

By Ann Scott Tyson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced Monday that has he asked for the resignation of Gen. David McKiernan, the top general in Afghanistan. Gates has nominated Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal to replace McKiernan.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates announced yesterday that he had requested the resignation of the top American general in Afghanistan, Gen. David D. McKiernan, making a rare decision to remove a wartime commander at a time when the Obama administration has voiced increasing alarm about the country's downward spiral.

Gates, saying he seeks "fresh thinking" and "fresh eyes" on Afghanistan, recommended that President Obama replace McKiernan with a veteran Special Operations commander, Lt. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal. His selection marks the continued ascendancy of officers who have pressed for the use of counterinsurgency tactics, in Iraq and Afghanistan, that are markedly different from the Army's traditional doctrine.

"We have a new strategy, a new mission and a new ambassador. I believe that new military leadership is also needed," Gates said at a Pentagon news conference. Gates also recommended that Lt. Gen. David M. Rodriguez, a former head of U.S. forces in eastern Afghanistan who is serving as Gates's military assistant, be nominated to serve in a new position as McChrystal's deputy. Gates praised McChrystal and Rodriguez for their "unique skill set in counterinsurgency."

McKiernan, an armor officer who led U.S. ground forces during the 2003 Iraq invasion, was viewed as somewhat cautious and conventionally minded, according to senior officials inside and outside the Pentagon.

Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top commander of U.S. forces in the region, has pressed aggressively to broaden the military's mission in Afghanistan and Iraq beyond killing the enemy to protecting the population, overseeing reconstruction projects and rebuilding local governance. Petraeus played a key role in the Obama administration's strategic review of the Afghanistan conflict and was involved in the decision to remove McKiernan, which Petraeus said in a statement he "fully supports."

The decision to fire McKiernan represents one of a handful of times since President Harry S. Truman's removal of Gen. Douglas MacArthur in 1951 that U.S. civilian leaders have relieved a top wartime commander, and is in keeping with Gates's style of demanding accountability by dismissing senior military and civilian officials for a host of problems, including nuclear weapons mismanagement and inadequate care for wounded troops.

Gen. David McKiernan Ousted as Top U.S. Commander in Afghanistan



Why Obama Had to Fire McChrystal
By Noah Shachtman

In the end, it was Obama’s only move. Keeping General Stanley McChrystal in place would have shattered the chain of command, obliterated the authority Obama had with the military, and undermined any hope of waging a successful counterinsurgency in Afghanistan.

“As difficult as it is to lose General McChrystal, I believe it’s the right one,” the President just said. “The conduct represented in the recently-published article … undermines the civilian control of the military that is at the core of our democratic system. And it erodes the trust that’s necessary for our team to work together to achieve our objectives in Afghanistan.”

No general could’ve taken Obama seriously, after getting dissed so publicly by McChrystal’s crew. No captain or sergeant could’ve been expected to shut up and salute when his superior officer gave an order. The guy at the top didn’t respect his commander; why should he?

The culture of accountability so meticulously built up by Robert Gates during his tenure at the Pentagon — gone. The long tradition of civilian control of the military — wrecked.

For a counterinsurgency to work — and they are hard to pull off — militants need to be challenged along a broad spectrum of conflict: from armed coercion to economic persuasion. And for that to happen, you need a team of diplomats and troops working closely together. That clearly wasn’t happening under McChrystal.

As one civilian advisor to the McChrystal team told Danger Room yesterday: “There are very few things we control in Afghanistan. In every review of COIN [counterinsurgency] best practices, ‘unity of effort’ tops the list. Every. Single, Review. And we’re totally ****ing it up; ****ing up the one thing that should be in our control,” the advisor says. “We can’t control Karzai, or the ANP [Afghan National Police], or the Pakistani tribes, but we should be able to get our **** in one sock, and we’re not.”

It wasn’t an easy choice. Changing generals for the second time in two years like this has the potential to wreak havoc on the Afghan campaign — even with David Petraeus as that successor. But it was the only one

Why Obama Had to Fire McChrystal | Danger Room | WIRED

Apparently you either didn't read my post or didn't comprehend it. My post had nothing to do with Gen Kelly and basically nothing to do with any of the other crap you just posted.
My post was talking about the ridiculousness of saying that Obama got Osama. It was the result of the hard work and dedication of our Special Operations and intelligence community. Obama played a basically the same amount of part as Bush did. Without the decisions that both made it wouldn't have happened. You saying that it was Obama is nothing more than partisan cheerleading. Get over it.
You might want to try reading a little slower.

 

[Tangmo]

Apparently you either didn't read my post or didn't comprehend it. My post had nothing to do with Gen Kelly and basically nothing to do with any of the other crap you just posted.
My post was talking about the ridiculousness of saying that Obama got Osama. It was the result of the hard work and dedication of our Special Operations and intelligence community. Obama played a basically the same amount of part as Bush did. Without the decisions that both made it wouldn't have happened. You saying that it was Obama is nothing more than partisan cheerleading. Get over it.
You might want to try reading a little slower.

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You as a relief pitcher also might want to read the title of the thread in addition to knowing your team is behind in the score.

Your team's starting pitcher got shelled and you're not doing any better than he did.

:yawn:

 

[Tangmo]

No you haven't you're just defending an incompetent CnC who's using the military for social engineering.

Officers and even SNO's and NCO's have been targeted for political witch hunts to find something to relieve them from their commands under the disguise of a "valid reason."

You can pick any swinging dick or bouncing titties with in the Officers Corps and search for a valid reason to have them walk the plank, ending their military careers for a political reason.

The vast majority of the 200 who were forced out of the military by the Obama White House would still be on duty if any other person was in the White House. The 200 isn't part of the hundreds of officers who were relieved of command and forced out of the military for legitimate reasons.

You can go out in the civilian world and pick any individual on the streets and observe and dig and find a law or regulation they have violated or broke.

You don't relieve a Lower Admiral who's out in the middle of the Pacific because he used the word "****" on the bridge of a warship. The Admiral was singled out right after four Americans were murdered in Benghazi, because the Admiral commented to some of the officers under his command that he was pissed nothing was done to save these Americans. One of the junior officers was probably a lib and dropped a dime.

You don't fire a warrior, a Marine colonel because of pigs just to pay off a political debt to PETA for supporting Obama. But that's what happened.
One of the 200 who have been purged for political reasons. -> Did Pigs Get a U.S. Marine Colonel Fired? | Hawaii Reporter
Conduct a witch hunt, all real Marines drink, we should be able to dig up something. Aye Aye Mr President.

Not part of the 200 who have been purged.

A BIG DOUBLE-STANDARD OF JUSTICE! - NAVY
DESTROYS CAPT GREG McWHERTER - CODDLES
"HORRIBLE HOLLY" GRAF - THE FORMER BLUE
ANGELS COMMANDER A VICTIM OF POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS - GRAF PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED
SUBORDINATE OFFICERS ON TWO OCCASIONS
SHE GETS TO RETIRE IN-GRADE - McWHERTER'S
LEADERSHIP AND EXPERIENCE SOON TO BE
LOST TO NAVAL SERVICE AND THE NATION

>" No wonder Vladimir Putin and the rest of the world laughs at the United States. They see our preoccupation with political correctness as an amusing, self-destructive policy that only weakens our military.

Famed ADM Chester Nimitz would be spinning in his grave to know what his beloved Navy has become.

The witch-hunt against former Blue Angels commander CAPT Greg McWherter has resulted in a blow to morale and soon will deny America the services of one of her best fighter-pilots.

A Citadel grad, and one of the nation's very best "Top Gun" pilots, McWherter is being forced out because of back-biting Naval officers and enemies at the Pentagon who love to use the ever-convenient club of "political correctness" to destroy their target.

What a bunch of hypocrites! "<
CAPT GREG McWHERTER


I think I'll paint a penis on top of the roof of my BMW.

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:yt


As to the last point, you might want to keep in mind the works of Michelangelo.

The officers you reference by name are very likely the casualties of professional infighting among peers, what in civilian life are called office politics, personality conflicts, differences in style and attitude and the like. We know the military is a hierarchy and is based on rank, advancing through the ranks according to a schedule, and that virtually every aspect of the military is highly competitive and even, one might say, cutthroat and subject to jealousies.

The absence of certain factors also destroys the extreme right wing and its mass media concerning the thread topic. The heads of the armed services committees of the congress are not carrying the banner of the thread topic. Nor are the national and great veterans organizations of the country in their official statements to the congress.

The congress is not up in arms in the cause of the far right as expressed in the thread topic, nor are the major advocates of the interests of the military whether in the public sector or the private sector. There's always someone here or there who'll lend some support to the thread topic, but they are the few, the loud, the marginal.

For instance, I don't hear people in Washington such as Sen John McCain carrying your banner or spouting your far out cause or purposes. Well known public figures such as Sen McCain just don't see the threat the extreme right media and its followers are trying to conjure up.

 

[Paxaeon]

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[braindrain]

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You as a relief pitcher also might want to read the title of the thread in addition to knowing your team is behind in the score.

Your team's starting pitcher got shelled and you're not doing any better than he did.

:yawn:

Really because I commented on a off topic post of yours or do you think that Osama bin Ladin has anything to do with Gen Kelly.
You are struggling here my friend and looking dumb the whole time.

 

[APACHERAT]

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The congress is not up in arms in the cause of the far right as expressed in the thread topic, nor are the major advocates of the interests of the military whether in the public sector or the private sector. There's always someone here or there who'll lend some support to the thread topic, but they are the few, the loud, the marginal.

For instance, I don't hear people in Washington such as Sen John McCain carrying your banner or spouting your far out cause or purposes. Well known public figures such as Sen McCain just don't see the threat the extreme right media and its followers are trying to conjure up.

But Senators and Congressional Representatives have gone public, if the MSM isn't reporting it it doesn't mean they aren't "up in arms."

Back in 2012 just before the Presidential elections Sen. Grahm and another Senator came out saying that if Obama wasn't reelected that these issues like purging of officers, declining combat readiness of our military and the inappropriate way DADT was repealed with the Obama White House lying to Congress and producing a fake survey of the troops where the White House had the results of the survey before the survey was given to the troops to take all would be revisited.

I don't watch C-Span as much as I use to but in the past few years I've watched maybe two dozen members of Congress say that the current administration is using our military for social engineering experimentation. Do you really think that the MSM going to report that ? They helped put Obama in the White House and they have to protect the guy they put in the White House.

Remember back in the late 70's and 1980 when every major newspaper was reporting that our military was a hollow force ? When the Reagan administration moved into the White House in 81 they discovered it was worse than they thought.

Why do you suppose Congress allowed some flag officers to testify before Congress not behind closed doors but in open to public testifying about the combat readiness of our military ? Usually this is done behind closed doors.

Every month every unit from company size on up is rated in combat readiness. C-1 being fully combat ready. These units combat readiness ratings are usually classified and kept classified for two years. Of the Army's 33 combat brigades only 3 are combat ready and capable of deploying. The other 30 are C-3 or less.

If uninformed or misinformed voters stay at home in November of 2016 it's more than likely these issues will be visited by Congress and dealt with.