They're up to 24 gb on cards now? Damn . . .
So, did anyone shell out $1200 bucks for a 2060 or 2080 card recently? If so you got hosed. I know someone who did, and he is pissed (but I tried to warn him)
The 3080 will cost nearly half of what a 2080 costs, and will be twice as fast!
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080: release date, price, news and features | TechRadar
Nvidia Ampere - RTX 3090, RTX 3080, and RTX 3070 release date, specs, performance, and pricing | PC Gamer
I have a 1060, very glad that I didn't upgrade, so 700 bucks for something that blows everything else out of the water is a slam dunk. They have a cheaper 3070, and an insane 3090 coming out as well.
I just upgraded my power supply today to handle this monster. Can't wait!
While the 3080 will be a beast, I would temper my enthusiasm of performance based on the sales pitch.
I mean, for those of us who have been gear heads for longer than most gamers have been alive, I got a good laugh at the silliness of nVidia starting their reveal video discussing the great performance in eSports games. I mean, anyone with the experience and knowledge to adequately examine the nVidia numbers would also know that eSports already are very thin in hardware requirements, and there isn't a single eSports player that will give up a single FPS for shinnies like ray-tracing.
I mean, eSports people are already OCD with FPS and see excess shinnies as more of a distraction. Why would an eSports person enable ray-tracing, for example, when the added visual appeal could just as easily distract from the visual stimulus that matters?
Anyway, I'm guessing the 3080 will be roughly 20-30% above the 2080ti, and the price point is incredible even if it were an even trade, so it's all good as far as I am concerned. It's a MUCH larger step up than the 1000 series was to the 2000 series. I still run a 1080 on my main system because the payoff jumping to the 2080 wasn't there, and the 2070 was, arguably, a lesser card than the 1080 in some aspects.
I think I will be going with a 3070 if it pans out to be a 2080ti competitor because the price point is right and it'll be years before games make good use of the 3080s power.
I want FPS for Flight sim, and I want the ray tracing capabilities.
You'll get it, for sure. This is more of an economic event than a technological event, I think. $/fps dropped precipitously. We can all rejoice.
So, did anyone shell out $1200 bucks for a 2060 or 2080 card recently? If so you got hosed. I know someone who did, and he is pissed (but I tried to warn him)
The 3080 will cost nearly half of what a 2080 costs, and will be twice as fast!
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080: release date, price, news and features | TechRadar
Nvidia Ampere - RTX 3090, RTX 3080, and RTX 3070 release date, specs, performance, and pricing | PC Gamer
I have a 1060, very glad that I didn't upgrade, so 700 bucks for something that blows everything else out of the water is a slam dunk. They have a cheaper 3070, and an insane 3090 coming out as well.
I just upgraded my power supply today to handle this monster. Can't wait!
An RTX-2070 can be had for $399
I'm hoping the 3000 series pushes those down at least $100. The RTX-3080, though a beast of a card, is still MSRP at $699, which means $800 plus on the street.
But I agree that had I bought an RTX-2080TI I would be pissed.
The founders edition card will be at $699.
Its because of serious competition. I am glad I waited a generation....
So, did anyone shell out $1200 bucks for a 2060 or 2080 card recently? If so you got hosed. I know someone who did, and he is pissed (but I tried to warn him)
The 3080 will cost nearly half of what a 2080 costs, and will be twice as fast!
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080: release date, price, news and features | TechRadar
Nvidia Ampere - RTX 3090, RTX 3080, and RTX 3070 release date, specs, performance, and pricing | PC Gamer
I have a 1060, very glad that I didn't upgrade, so 700 bucks for something that blows everything else out of the water is a slam dunk. They have a cheaper 3070, and an insane 3090 coming out as well.
I just upgraded my power supply today to handle this monster. Can't wait!
So, did anyone shell out $1200 bucks for a 2060 or 2080 card recently? If so you got hosed. I know someone who did, and he is pissed (but I tried to warn him)
The 3080 will cost nearly half of what a 2080 costs, and will be twice as fast!
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080: release date, price, news and features | TechRadar
Nvidia Ampere - RTX 3090, RTX 3080, and RTX 3070 release date, specs, performance, and pricing | PC Gamer
I have a 1060, very glad that I didn't upgrade, so 700 bucks for something that blows everything else out of the water is a slam dunk. They have a cheaper 3070, and an insane 3090 coming out as well.
I just upgraded my power supply today to handle this monster. Can't wait!
Yea it draws 320 watts! It is also going to be hot as hell. I hope you are patient too. It is not going to be available in quantity until 2021 meaning it will be selling above list until then. No mention of a die shrink either. I am quite happy with my 7Nm 5700xt that costs half what the 3080 does. AMD rules.:lol:
Yea it draws 320 watts! It is also going to be hot as hell. I hope you are patient too. It is not going to be available in quantity until 2021 meaning it will be selling above list until then. No mention of a die shrink either. I am quite happy with my 7Nm 5700xt that costs half what the 3080 does. AMD rules.:lol:
GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition: Hail to the King!
Nvidia's GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition is here, claiming the top spot on our GPU benchmarks hierarchy, and ranking as the best graphics card currently available — provided you're after performance first, with price and power being lesser concerns. After months of waiting, we finally have independent benchmarks and testing data. Nvidia has thrown down the gauntlet, clearly challenging AMD's Big Navi to try and match or beat what the Ampere architecture brings to the table.
We're going to hold off on a final verdict for now, as we have other third-party RTX 3080 cards to review, which will begin as soon as tomorrow. That's good news, as it means customers won't be limited to Nvidia's Founders Edition for the first month or so like we were with the RTX 20-series launch. Another piece of good news is that there's no Founders Edition 'tax' this time: The RTX 3080 FE costs $699, direct from Nvidia, and that's the base price of RTX 3080 cards for the time being. The bad news is that we fully expect supply to be insufficient to keep up with what we expect to be exceptionally high demand.
The bottom line, if you don't mind spoilers, is that the RTX 3080 FE is 33% faster than the RTX 2080 Ti, on average. Or, if you prefer other points of comparison, it's 57% faster than the RTX 2080 Super, 69% faster than the RTX 2080 FE — heck, it's even 26% faster than the Titan RTX!
But there's a catch: We measured all of those 'percent faster' results across our test suite running at 4K ultra settings. The lead narrows if you drop down to 1440p, and it decreases even more at 1080p. It's still 42% faster than a 2080 FE at 1080p ultra, but this is very much a card made for higher resolutions. Also, you might need a faster CPU to get the full 3080 experience — check out our companion GeForce RTX 3080 CPU Scaling article for the full details.
I always get a laugh at gamers who claim they can perceive the difference between 40, 60, 120, 200 FPS.
The limits of human perception for 98% of us range between 23-28 FPS, and some exceptional people can theoretically distinguish into the low 30's. Beyond this, you're deluding yourself.
But... there they are. The VODs where DeludedGamer97 is proudly boasting how his rig puts up 150 FPS and audio sampled at 192kHz (which he swears also makes a difference despite the human ear maxing out 20kHz) and his gaming mouse is sensitive to movement down to 2 microns and...
My reality is that I play a lot of games, and while I like to run most at or above their middle-of-the-road settings for some additional polish, in 99% of cases the additional teraflops increase the gameplay enjoyability by precisely zero. Even then, I wonder how much of that is a placebo effect.
I understand the general principle of a high frame rate as improving the precision of motion interpolation.The human eye can perceive about 60fps.
The frame redraw and reaction is not entirely visual. If you are rendering a game at, say, 30fps, the game will calculate 1 frame position out of every 8 you would get in 240 fps for a moving object, the difference that makes is that if you click at a random point in the vicinity of a moving target in a 30fps render there is a better chance you click in an empty space since the target of your click would effectively teleport around the point of click.
The brain can calculate and respond to trajectories of objects more precisely than the eye can see, deriving a sharper estimation of target positioning than the eye can perceive and faster than a 30fps video can represent. Because of this, the higher the frame rate, the more likely that a skilled person's reactions will result in a good click because the chance that the target and pointer are rendered in the same place at the moment of click is higher.
To put in another way, imagine skeet shooting where the clay pigeon has the same flight time and trajectory as you'd expect, but teleports between 50 discrete positions in rapid succession rather than following a real world arc. The chance that you would hit it would decrease, even if your aim and timing were good.
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