Gavin Newsom Would Lose In A General Election For The Same Reason Kamala Lost . . (1 Viewer)

[SkyChief]

. . . Incompetence.

Newsom recently did an interview with Bill Maher. Maher asked if Newsom might run in 2028:

Maher: “We [democrats] need someone who’s going to be the champion. Are you going to do it or not?”

Newsom: “I deeply respect that the question, but I don’t have any grand plans with respect to that. . . ”

Contrary to what Newsom told Maher, he is maneuvering and jockeying into a position to run. He just needs to change his image - needs to rebrand himself. The fact that Newsom sat in Maher's hot seat is evidence that Newsom is trying to appear more moderate so independent voters might consider him as someone who could perform well as President and Commander-In-Chief.

Newsom would not perform well in ANY executive position. His performance as Governor of California has been - and remains - abysmal. It is so bad, that in 2021, California held a special election to recall Newsom. American voters would be ignorant to think that someone who has demonstrated incompetence in an executive role such as Newson has, would miraculously become competent as President and Commander-In-Chief.

American voters saw how incompetent Kamala Harris was in her executive role as Border Czar. American voters chose Trump over Harris - not because they liked Trump - most didn't. They voted for Trump because he was competent, and had proven that he can perform in an executive role.

Both Newsom and Harris demonstrated profound incompetence in their respective executive roles, and that makes them unelectable.

Expect Gavin Newsom to throw his hat in the ring in 2028. . . . along with AOC, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Beshear, et al. IMO.

 

[Slavister]

. . . Incompetence.

You do know voters elected Trump, right?

Update: just saw this in your OP:

They voted for Trump because he was competent, and had proven that he can perform in an executive role.

Sorry, I did not realize the degree of your ... indoctrination.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

. . . Incompetence.

Newsom recently did an interview with Bill Maher. Maher asked if Newsom might run in 2028:

Maher: “We [democrats] need someone who’s going to be the champion. Are you going to do it or not?”

Newsom: “I deeply respect that the question, but I don’t have any grand plans with respect to that. . . ”

Contrary to what Newsom told Maher, he is maneuvering and jockeying into a position to run. He just needs to change his image - needs to rebrand himself. The fact that Newsom sat in Maher's hot seat is evidence that Newsom is trying to appear more moderate so independent voters might consider him as someone who could perform well as President and Commander-In-Chief.

Evidence?

Newsom would not perform well in ANY executive position. His performance as Governor of California has been - and remains - abysmal. It is so bad, that in 2021, California held a special election to recall Newsom. American voters would be ignorant to think that someone who has demonstrated incompetence in an executive role such as Newson has, would miraculously become competent as President and Commander-In-Chief.

Baseless opinion.

American voters saw how incompetent Kamala Harris was in her executive role as Border Czar. American voters chose Trump over Harris - not because they liked Trump - most didn't. They voted for Trump because he was competent, and had proven that he can perform in an executive role.

This is nothing but baseless right-wing tripe.

Both Newsom and Harris demonstrated profound incompetence in their respective executive roles, and that makes them unelectable.

More baseless right-wing tripe.

Expect Gavin Newsom to throw his hat in the ring in 2028. . . . along with AOC, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Beshear, et al. IMO.

Evidence?

 

[aociswundumho]

They'll have a primary this time, and Harris will become the nominee again. She is the future of the democratic party.

 

[MamboDervish]

. . . Incompetence.

They voted for Trump because he was competent,

No he wasn't.

and had proven that he can perform in an executive role.

Trump is neither competent, nor able to preform professionally in an executive role. You have mistakenly conflated executive performance with being dictatorial. They are not the same thing.

 

[reflechissez]

. . . Incompetence.

Newsom recently did an interview with Bill Maher. Maher asked if Newsom might run in 2028:

Maher: “We [democrats] need someone who’s going to be the champion. Are you going to do it or not?”

Newsom: “I deeply respect that the question, but I don’t have any grand plans with respect to that. . . ”

Contrary to what Newsom told Maher, he is maneuvering and jockeying into a position to run. He just needs to change his image - needs to rebrand himself. The fact that Newsom sat in Maher's hot seat is evidence that Newsom is trying to appear more moderate so independent voters might consider him as someone who could perform well as President and Commander-In-Chief.

Newsom would not perform well in ANY executive position. His performance as Governor of California has been - and remains - abysmal. It is so bad, that in 2021, California held a special election to recall Newsom. American voters would be ignorant to think that someone who has demonstrated incompetence in an executive role such as Newson has, would miraculously become competent as President and Commander-In-Chief.

American voters saw how incompetent Kamala Harris was in her executive role as Border Czar. American voters chose Trump over Harris - not because they liked Trump - most didn't. They voted for Trump because he was competent, and had proven that he can perform in an executive role.

Both Newsom and Harris demonstrated profound incompetence in their respective executive roles, and that makes them unelectable.

Expect Gavin Newsom to throw his hat in the ring in 2028. . . . along with AOC, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Beshear, et al. IMO.

ok

 

[SkyChief]

They'll have a primary this time, and Harris will become the nominee again. She is the future of the democratic party.

I hope you're right. Harris demonstrated her incompetence, and voters rejected her for it. Hopefully is happens again.

No he wasn't.

Trump is neither competent, nor able to preform professionally in an executive role.

Where were you between 2016 and 2020 when Trump was President and Commander-In-Chief? Trump has been in executive roles most of his adult life. His success in executive roles doesn't come from incompetence.

You have mistakenly conflated executive performance with being dictatorial. They are not the same thing.

Oh god.

 

[Gozaburo]

. . . Incompetence.

Kamala didn't lose because of incompetence, even if it is the case that she is incompetent - which I don't necessarily grant. I will grant she doesn't seem particularly intelligent and is a shrill charisma black hole in terms of presentation.

But the main reason Kamala lost is because she has all of those traits in addition to the unfortunate aesthetic reality of being (or presenting) as a black woman. America isn't going to elect a black woman.

Gavin Newsom at least has aesthetics - has the old money WASP look, is a good speaker, beautiful all-American family (which also contrasts with Kamala's daughter as a stereotypical artsy shitlib). It's potentially true that Gavin's political baggage as a staunch progressive is too much to bear in a national election, but that has less to do with competence than it does political messaging.

As an aside, it's absolutely ****ing hilarious that you think voters vote based on 'competence'. The average voter can't even reliably spell the word.

 

[SkyChief]

Kamala didn't lose because of incompetence, even if it is the case that she is incompetent - which I don't necessarily grant.

Kamala Harris is profounly incompetent. She accomplished NOTHING in her executive role as Border Czar.

NOTHING.

I will grant she doesn't seem particularly intelligent and is a shrill charisma black hole in terms of presentation.

But the main reason Kamala lost is because she has all of those traits in addition to the unfortunate aesthetic reality of being (or presenting) as a black woman.

Nonsense.The color of her skin had nothing to do with her loss to Trump. It was her sheer incompetence. The people I know who voted for Trump last year can't stand him. But they understand he performs in executive roles. They also understand that Harris doesn't. Their vote for Trump was a no-brainer.

America isn't going to elect a black woman.

LOL they said America isn't going to elect a black man when Barack Obama decided to run.

Gavin Newsom at least has aesthetics - has the old money WASP look, is a good speaker, beautiful all-American family (which also contrasts with Kamala's daughter as a stereotypical artsy shitlib). It's potentially true that Gavin's political baggage as a staunch progressive is too much to bear in a national election, but that has less to do with competence than it does political messaging.

Newsom is rebranding himself, and his appearance on Maher's show was a stepping-off point.

As an aside, it's absolutely ****ing hilarious that you think voters vote based on 'competence'. The average voter can't even reliably spell the word.

Oh god.

 

[phoenix2020]

Newsom has been a serviceable Governor with the support of most Californians. Not perfect, not terrible. Sure we have some SkyChief types who hate him but let’s face it, their opinions are largely worthless given that they would hate any human being in the role who is not completely loyal to Donald, and they are a distinct minority as well evidenced by their total face plant when attempting to remove him.

I think he should remain Governor. I think Gretchen Whitmer is a stronger POTUS candidate. @SkyChief would demonize her just as vociferously, but again, he’ll do for for anybody not endorsed by Donald, Eric or Don Jr.

 

[Hip octogenarian]

. . . Incompetence.

Newsom recently did an interview with Bill Maher. Maher asked if Newsom might run in 2028:

Maher: “We [democrats] need someone who’s going to be the champion. Are you going to do it or not?”

Newsom: “I deeply respect that the question, but I don’t have any grand plans with respect to that. . . ”

Contrary to what Newsom told Maher, he is maneuvering and jockeying into a position to run. He just needs to change his image - needs to rebrand himself. The fact that Newsom sat in Maher's hot seat is evidence that Newsom is trying to appear more moderate so independent voters might consider him as someone who could perform well as President and Commander-In-Chief.

Newsom would not perform well in ANY executive position. His performance as Governor of California has been - and remains - abysmal. It is so bad, that in 2021, California held a special election to recall Newsom. American voters would be ignorant to think that someone who has demonstrated incompetence in an executive role such as Newson has, would miraculously become competent as President and Commander-In-Chief.

American voters saw how incompetent Kamala Harris was in her executive role as Border Czar. American voters chose Trump over Harris - not because they liked Trump - most didn't. They voted for Trump because he was competent, and had proven that he can perform in an executive role.

Both Newsom and Harris demonstrated profound incompetence in their respective executive roles, and that makes them unelectable.

Expect Gavin Newsom to throw his hat in the ring in 2028. . . . along with AOC, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Beshear, et al. IMO.

Newsome won the recall vote. He is far more popular than Trump. https://www.desertsun.com/story/new...n-2025-california-survey-results/81781942007/

 

[Gozaburo]

Kamala Harris is profounly incompetent. She accomplished NOTHING in her executive role as Border Czar.

NOTHING.

Ok

Nonsense.The color of her skin had nothing to do with her loss to Trump. It was her sheer incompetence. The people I know who voted for Trump last year can't stand him. But they understand he performs in executive roles. They also understand that Harris doesn't.

Yeah, no. I might agree it could be due to a combination of both, but there are pretty clear and obvious reasons why Kamala is an aesthetically inferior candidate just speaking objectively.

LOL they said America isn't going to elect a black man when Barack Obama decided to run.

I never said that. I don't know anyone who said that. Obama won due to a confluence of factors, none of which Harris enjoyed.

Newsom is rebranding himself, and his appearance on Maher's show was a stepping-off point.

Sure and maybe it works. I'm just pointing out that Newsom is a good candidate on aesthetics and articulation alone which is well over 50% of what makes a candidate electable.

 

[Hip octogenarian]

I hope you're right. Harris demonstrated her incompetence, and voters rejected her for it. Hopefully is happens again.

Where were you between 2016 and 2020 when Trump was President and Commander-In-Chief? Trump has been in executive roles most of his adult life. His success in executive roles doesn't come from incompetence.

Oh god.

Success in executive roles? Really? Even his casino went belly up!

 

[phoenix2020]

Newsome won the recall vote. He is far more popular than Trump. https://www.desertsun.com/story/new...n-2025-california-survey-results/81781942007/

Newsom has broad approval in California. The MAGAs who disapprove would automatically disapprove of anybody not specifically endorsed by Donald Trump, so their criticisms of Newsom will for the most part be generic regurgitations of whatever media talking points they were given. The OP presents us with an excellent example. The media handed him some talking points, and he dutifully raced online to spam them.

 

[SkyChief]

Newsom has been a serviceable Governor with the support of most Californians. Not perfect, not terrible. Sure we have some SkyChief types who hate him

BS. I don't hate Gavin Newsom. What a dumb Straw-man argument.

but let’s face it, their opinions are largely worthless given that they would hate any human being in the role who is not completely loyal to Donald, and they are a distinct minority as well evidenced by their total face plant when attempting to remove him.

LOL Someone at your level pretending that your opinion is better than someone a lot smarter than you! Our opinions are NOT worthless. You got triggered, so therefore our opinions have value. I knew that there would be some ad-hom posts, I just had no idea how pathetic they would be! So thanks.

Gavin Newsom is a profoundly incompetent man - in fact many consider him to be the worst, and most incompetent governor in California's history. Newsom is FAR worse than Gray Davis, who we DID successfully recall in 2003.

I hope and pray that Newsom becomes the Democratic Party nominee in 2028. It should be an EASY win for the GOP candidate.

 

[Sabre]

My opinion of pretty boy was formed the first day I saw him announcing his run for Governor. A Sleazy con artist and he has shown that as soon as he was elected (mistakenly) to office. I'm not a MAGA and my opinion is not because of anyone else except Newsom himself.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Kamala Harris is profounly incompetent. She accomplished NOTHING in her executive role as Border Czar.

NOTHING.

Racist garbage.

Nonsense.The color of her skin had nothing to do with her loss to Trump. It was her sheer incompetence. The people I know who voted for Trump last year can't stand him. But they understand he performs in executive roles. They also understand that Harris doesn't. Their vote for Trump was a no-brainer.

No, he doesn't. Everything he has every touched has been destroyed. Look at all his bankruptcies.

"The Trump Taj Mahal, which was built and owned by President Trump, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1991. The Trump Plaza, the Trump Castle, and the Plaza Hotel, all owned by President Trump at the time, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1992. THCR, which was founded by President Trump in 1995, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2004. Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc., the new name given to Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts after its 2004 bankruptcy, declared bankruptcy in 2009."

Then there's the list of "companies that had license agreements with President Trump [that] have failed":

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/column-lengthy-list-trumps-disastrous-225417110.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADSyt0yD2C0eGcf7Dtr1yJ-L0fcQYKdbgHSjYF5q-VpTY9xHvkyOWXs0zmihJOJbxftBQVh6l5Ea1Huqer6be9DBojVX6mdcMkPvjFfdYai4xX9KprVD9s19iB1NRrD9gKCC5HtePxieUWs1JxWS8UFY1tErqtgoyg6NBU-281td

EVERYTHING he has ever touched has turned to shit.

LOL they said America isn't going to elect a black man when Barack Obama decided to run.


Newsom is rebranding himself, and his appearance on Maher's show was a stepping-off point.


Oh god.

 

[Fletch]

. . . Incompetence.

Newsom recently did an interview with Bill Maher. Maher asked if Newsom might run in 2028:

Maher: “We [democrats] need someone who’s going to be the champion. Are you going to do it or not?”

Newsom: “I deeply respect that the question, but I don’t have any grand plans with respect to that. . . ”

Contrary to what Newsom told Maher, he is maneuvering and jockeying into a position to run. He just needs to change his image - needs to rebrand himself. The fact that Newsom sat in Maher's hot seat is evidence that Newsom is trying to appear more moderate so independent voters might consider him as someone who could perform well as President and Commander-In-Chief.

Newsom would not perform well in ANY executive position. His performance as Governor of California has been - and remains - abysmal. It is so bad, that in 2021, California held a special election to recall Newsom. American voters would be ignorant to think that someone who has demonstrated incompetence in an executive role such as Newson has, would miraculously become competent as President and Commander-In-Chief.

American voters saw how incompetent Kamala Harris was in her executive role as Border Czar. American voters chose Trump over Harris - not because they liked Trump - most didn't. They voted for Trump because he was competent, and had proven that he can perform in an executive role.

Both Newsom and Harris demonstrated profound incompetence in their respective executive roles, and that makes them unelectable.

Expect Gavin Newsom to throw his hat in the ring in 2028. . . . along with AOC, Gretchen Whitmer, Andy Beshear, et al. IMO.

I wouldnt be so quick to count out Newsome. He is a pretty slick politician. His difficulty would be in trying to sell the prospect of turning all of America into California.

 

[aociswundumho]

But the main reason Kamala lost is because she has all of those traits in addition to the unfortunate aesthetic reality of being (or presenting) as a black woman.

Not since the Nazis has a political party been so obsessed with race.

 

[MAGAnificent]

But the main reason Kamala lost is because she has all of those traits in addition to the unfortunate aesthetic reality of being (or presenting) as a black woman. America isn't going to elect a black woman.

The main reason Harris lost actually had nothing to do with Harris. They could have run a perfect candidate in 2024 and still would have lost. Trump ran on fixing the southern border and against the deep state. Had the race been about the democrat candidate, she still would have lost because she simply cannot articulate policy off the cuff and tried to make up for it with that annoying cackle. Modern America has no problem electing a woman, black or otherwise, however she will not be elected simply for being female or black. That glass ceiling will be broken, however it will have to be a competent and charismatic candidate. The democrats will have to do better than the hildabeast and the cackler.

 

[MamboDervish]

Where were you between 2016 and 2020 when Trump was President and Commander-In-Chief?

Observing his failures. Where were you?

Trump has been in executive roles most of his adult life.

True. So what?

His success in executive roles doesn't come from incompetence.

No - his FAILURES in executive roles comes from his incompetence - and they are legion. I won't bother listing his numerous business failures, as any competent person could easily look them up, but I might just drop a few links for you, as you seem completely oblivious to the truth. Suffice to say that Trump could not even run a casino! You know what a casino is? It's a place where "the house always WINS!" But not Trump. The profoundly incompetent executive Mr. Trump even managed to lose in a business where "the house always wins", in fact so badly, he even had to have his daddy bail him out to keep one casino from being foreclosed on, or the sheriff would have padlocked the doors while he was still in it!

Seriously, where did you ever get the ridiculous idea that Trump was a competent executive? Certainly not from his record. And if there is a record for failed business deals, he might actually hold it. Trump has declared BANKRUPTCY 6 TIMES!

 

[Gozaburo]

Not since the Nazis has a political party been so obsessed with race.

Seems pretty obvious that Trump plays to latent white anxiety and resentment and democrats more or less play the same tune to their coalition of brown. This isn't controversial.

The main reason Harris lost actually had nothing to do with Harris. They could have run a perfect candidate in 2024 and still would have lost. Trump ran on fixing the southern border and against the deep state. Had the race been about the democrat candidate, she still would have lost because she simply cannot articulate policy off the cuff and tried to make up for it with that annoying cackle. Modern America has no problem electing a woman, black or otherwise, however she will not be elected simply for being female or black. That glass ceiling will be broken, however it will have to be a competent and charismatic candidate. The democrats will have to do better than the hildabeast and the cackler.

This is just conservative brainrot.

 

[ataraxia]

I wouldnt be so quick to count out Newsome. He is a pretty slick politician. His difficulty would be in trying to sell the prospect of turning all of America into California.

Yes. We should be working to make America look like Alabama instead.

 

[aociswundumho]

Yes. We should be working to make America look like Alabama instead.

I'd rather live in Alabama than California any day of the week.

 

[verrip1]

You do know voters elected Trump, right?

Update: just saw this in your OP:



Sorry, I did not realize the degree of your ... indoctrination.

Well we understand those of your cult.