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GameStop employee fatally shot a fleeing shoplifter stealing Pokemon cards: police (1 Viewer)

Napoleon said:
Maybe you’ve missed the abundance of articles about the closure of retail stores - and loss of associated jobs - due to chronic shoplifting. The family should get $0 for their kid dying in the line of being a public menace.
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How about the abundance of articles about dumbasses in similar circumstances being charged... Your fantasies of what should happen are just that, fantasies...

Just this month in Texas...

An employee accused of shooting a man in the back while he ran out of a southwest Houston gun store in June 2022 has been charged with murder, according to charging documents.

Mark Winger is accused of shooting and killing Terry Evans Jr., who was seen on surveillance video with his hand in the cash register at Carter's Country store on South Wilcrest.

abc13.com

Gun store employee charged in shooting death of alleged shoplifter in SW Houston, court records say

A legal analyst not associated with the case told ABC13 he is not surprised by a grand jury's decision to indict the employee. Here's why surveillance video might've affected the outcome of his charges.
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Go ahead, play the badass on the internet... In the REAL world that shit doesn't fly...
 
BlueTex said:
Go ahead, play the badass on the internet... In the REAL world that shit doesn't fly...
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In the REAL world, and much to your chagrin, people are going to keep defending their property from thieves.
 
BlueTex said:
Keep dreaming...
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They also dont realize that if they (thieves) are more at risk of being shot, then they'll just start treating shoplifting like convenience store robberies...come in with their own guns, holding clerks, shoppers at gunpoint, and increasing the overall risk to everyone. This will be effective in smaller businesses, like Gamestops.

Violence isnt the answer...the criminals have no respect for life, they will always have the option to escalate.
 
Lursa said:
They also dont realize that if they (thieves) are more at risk of being shot, then they'll just start treating shoplifting like convenience store robberies...come in with their own guns, holding clerks, shoppers at gunpoint, and increasing the overall risk to everyone. This will be effective in smaller businesses, like Gamestops.

Violence isnt the answer...the criminals have no respect for life, they will always have the option to escalate.
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This is true, and though there are some real problems with the brazen actions of some thieves, we can't just take to shooting them. I doubt anyone here would think it fine to be shot in the back on their way out the exit because they mis-scanned something at the self checkout, but that's where a shoot thieves policy arrives.
 
Napoleon said:
In the REAL world, and much to your chagrin, people are going to keep defending their property from thieves.
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LMAO... And those that don't the difference between THEIR property and the property of a CORPORATION are likely to end up like this dumbass: fired and going to prison...
 
BlueTex said:
LMAO... And those that don't the difference between THEIR property and the property of a CORPORATION are likely to end up like this dumbass: fired and going to prison...
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And they’ll still be breathing unlike the scum they eliminated from society.
 
Napoleon said:
And they’ll still be breathing unlike the scum they eliminated from society.
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Breathing in prison... I'll bet they feel real satisfied after a couple of years... Like a real hero...
 
Napoleon said:
Property rights are sacred and completely undermined by the ridiculous progressive position that you have to let people steal your property and file insurance claims for reimbursement of the value. Oh, and then pay higher insurance premiums.
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For instance, the property rights people have over their labor, yes? So if an employer engages in wage theft from their employees, violating the employees’ sacred property rights, you would say the employees should be able to shoot their employer, yes?
 
Napoleon said:
Maybe you’ve missed the abundance of articles about the closure of retail stores - and loss of associated jobs - due to chronic shoplifting. The family should get $0 for their kid dying in the line of being a public menace.
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I've seen them, and I can promise you that company will shutter far quicker with having to pay out massive civil suits for rogue employees actions vs the theft of Pokemon cards.
 
Variant said:
Does it make it better when you shoot someone over something trivial like trading cards?
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It's not trivial if you're a retailer losing your fiscal ass to theft. When their actions threaten the security of the ones you love, draconian solutions start to sound reasonable.
 
Napoleon said:
And if there’s any justice in the world this will be a case of jury nullification.
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I would like to see that happen. It would make a loud and clear statement.
 
Napoleon said:
And they’ll still be breathing unlike the scum they eliminated from society.
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Should workers eliminate employers who engage in wage theft from society? Are they scum?
 
BlueTex said:
Let's say it did happen in the criminal trial... Do you think this guys is employable in the future?
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Yes. Policies vary from one employer to another. It may even help his employment opportunities for some employers.
 
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Napoleon said:
No one can steal something from you that was never in your possession to begin with.
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Workers don’t possess their labor? When employers steal from their workers’ labor, do you support workers shooting them?
 
Napoleon said:
Labor is an action not an object that can be stolen.
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The value of it certainly can. And does all the time. Wage theft dwarfs all other forms of theft combined.

Do you support workers shooting employers who steal from their labor as the “scum” they are?
 
Questerr said:
The value of it certainly can. And does all the time. Wage theft dwarfs all other forms of theft combined.

Do you support workers shooting employers who steal from their labor as the “scum” they are?
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Describing unpaid wages as theft is just a cute moniker deployed by the left. It’s not literal theft.
 
Napoleon said:
Describing unpaid wages as theft is just a cute moniker deployed by the left. It’s not literal theft.
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Why is it not? Is it because “property rights” only matter for the rich and not for workers?
 
Napoleon said:
Because, unlike theft of property, it’s a civil matter not a criminal offense.
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You realize that purely a legal constructive argument right? It backs up my point that “property rights” are constructed to protect the rich, the same people who bribe the government for laws.
 
Questerr said:
You realize that purely a legal constructive argument right? It backs up my point that “property rights” are constructed to protect the rich, the same people who bribe the government for laws.
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It’s also common sense. Never having been given something is not the same thing as being robbed of property in your possession - often violently.
 
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