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Games Muslims play

Sherlock Holmes said:
True and they assisted the Nazis and Ustashe too in Yugosliavia, they even had their own division: The infamous Handschar Division.
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Here is an example where the grand pubah of Palestine provided troops to Hitler.

Hitler was fascinated with Islam, not for the religion, but for the control it had on the people.
He said they make the perfect soldier, wanting to die in battle.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
I believe there are 2 controversial verses in all of the new testament, and contrary to the teachings of jesus.

Compare that to thousands of verses in Islam, about rob, rape, and kill, an entire storyline.

Muhammed was a murderer, rapist, slave trader, thief, and a slew of other adjectives.

Jesus was none of these.


Still engaged in mine is better than yours..HUH

I have no idea what you are talking about...My what is better than your what.
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you conveniently ignore the old testament and its wrathful god.

Your immediate defense of christianity is what I'm talking about.
 
Jonsa said:
you conveniently ignore the old testament and its wrathful god.

Your immediate defense of christianity is what I'm talking about.
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Do you realize that Muslims believe in the OT every bit as much as Jews and Christians do?
 
stevecanuck said:
Do you realize that Muslims believe in the OT every bit as much as Jews and Christians do?
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Oh my god. No they dont. Muslims think the old testament is corrupted so they only believe in certain portions that they interpret in their own way


This is so basic it shows what a amateur you are
 
vegas giants said:
Oh my god. No they dont. Muslims think the old testament is corrupted so they only believe in certain portions that they interpret in their own way


This is so basic it shows what a amateur you are
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You might want to review Islamic dogma wrt the holy books of the jews and christians.

As to believing certain portions and having their own interpretation - is that exactly what every christian and jewish denomination does with their own books?
 
Jonsa said:
You might want to review Islamic dogma wrt the holy books of the jews and christians.

As to believing certain portions and having their own interpretation - is that exactly what every christian and jewish denomination does with their own books?
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Dude this is so basic and you get it wrong
 
Jonsa said:
you conveniently ignore the old testament and its wrathful god.

Your immediate defense of christianity is what I'm talking about.
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Of the three Abrahamic religions IMO Christianity is probably the best.
The Jewish start is pretty violent, but they grew out of it.
The Christian version adds a new twist.
Casting the first stone,
Love thy enemy.
Mushy stuff, not followed a lot but a better view.
Then Islam reverted back to the original on steroids'.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
Of the three Abrahamic religions IMO Christianity is probably the best.
The Jewish start is pretty violent, but they grew out of it.
The Christian version adds a new twist.
Casting the first stone,
Love thy enemy.
Mushy stuff, not followed a lot but a better view.
Then Islam reverted back to the original on steroids'.
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Just the opinion of a dude on the internet
 
vegas giants said:
Dude this is so basic and you get it wrong
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dude

Totally agree its so basic.

Zabur is the book of Dawud revealed by Allah before the Quran.


Tawrat is the torah, revealed by Allah to Musa (moses).

Lo! We did reveal the At-Taurah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.

— Quran, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 44[2]


Dunning meet Kruger.
 
Jonsa said:
dude

Totally agree its so basic.

Zabur is the book of Dawud revealed by Allah before the Quran.


Tawrat is the torah, revealed by Allah to Musa (moses).

Lo! We did reveal the At-Taurah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.

— Quran, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 44[2]


Dunning meet Kruger.
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Yep. You are not even aware how muslims view the old testament. Lol
 
Jonsa said:
dude

Totally agree its so basic.

Zabur is the book of Dawud revealed by Allah before the Quran.


Tawrat is the torah, revealed by Allah to Musa (moses).

Lo! We did reveal the At-Taurah, wherein is guidance and a light, by which the prophets who surrendered (unto Allah) judged the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah's Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witnesses. So fear not mankind, but fear Me. And barter not My revelations for a little gain. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers.

— Quran, sura 5 (Al-Ma'ida), ayat 44[2]


Dunning meet Kruger.
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Correct. The Qur'an also frequently refers to "that which came before", which means the "taurat" and the "injeel", which loosely means the bible.
 
vegas giants said:
Yep. You are not even aware how muslims view the old testament. Lol
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O? so tell me o wise one how do muslims view the old testament? Feel free to reference any imam on the subject.

Unless that is, you make an obviously stupid accusation regarding my awareness as a vacuous defense for the fact you have no friggin' clue what you are talking about?
 
Jonsa said:
O? so tell me o wise one how do muslims view the old testament? Feel free to reference any imam on the subject.

Unless that is, you make an obviously stupid accusation regarding my awareness as a vacuous defense for the fact you have no friggin' clue what you are talking about?
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This is so basic.


Islamic view of the Bible - Wikipedia
 
vegas giants said:
Just the opinion of a dude on the internet
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While I ill admit I know very little of Judism, I do know a little about Christianity, and much more about Islam.

You on the other hand know nothing of all three.

Yes, just my opinion, however you have not yet posted anything to show otherwise.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
While I ill admit I know very little of Judism, I do know a little about Christianity, and much more about Islam.

You on the other hand know nothing of all three.

Yes, just my opinion, however you have not yet posted anything to show otherwise.
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And you know nothing about Islam, especially about how it is actually practiced.
 
Yasureoktoo said:
While I ill admit I know very little of Judism, I do know a little about Christianity, and much more about Islam.

You on the other hand know nothing of all three.

Yes, just my opinion, however you have not yet posted anything to show otherwise.
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You are NOT a expert on islam.



Even you admit that.


You are a amateur who gets a lot wrong
 
vegas giants said:
This is so basic.


Islamic view of the Bible - Wikipedia
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I am aware that there is considerable criticism of Allah's revealed word to jews and christians BEFORE he revealed the Quran to the true believers. Its how Muslims can reconcile the contradictions in revelation. That is called apologetics and is rather hypocritical since muslims refuse to accept any criticism of their revealed word. OTOH, It does not negate the absolute fact that Islam considers the bible to be the revealed word of their god.

It seems your knowledge of Islam is at the depth of simplistic absolutes.
 
Jonsa said:
I am aware that there is considerable criticism of Allah's revealed word to jews and christians BEFORE he revealed the Quran to the true believers. Its how Muslims can reconcile the contradictions in revelation. That is called apologetics and is rather hypocritical since muslims refuse to accept any criticism of their revealed word. OTOH, It does not negate the absolute fact that Islam considers the bible to be the revealed word of their god.

It seems your knowledge of Islam is at the depth of simplistic absolutes.
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You are a dude on the internet with a amateur opinion.


You are not a Islamic scholar.


Your personal opinion is easily dismissed
 
vegas giants said:
You are a dude on the internet with a amateur opinion.


You are not a Islamic scholar.


Your personal opinion is easily dismissed
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Pulling out a trumpian schoolyard retort.

So are you,
Neither are you and
Yours too!
 
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