That is completely an opinion. As is 'how much value.' Humans impose the values they choose on other humans and on other life forms. It's entirely subjective. And you cant 'force' people to feel a certain way.
I'm not forcing anyone to feel any way, that's pretty a ludicrous claim. Just stating an opinion. Cheering human death is a bit sick.
You don't have to have any empathy for others, never said you did. It's just that lack of empathy isn't necessarily something I'd say is a good thing.
I have empathy for loads of people, the family of this hunter for example, they did not ask to be victimized by the result of this hunters actions (his unintended death) but not everybody deserves empathy. Murderers do not deserve empathy, but as I am against the death penalty, I disagree with killing them. I also do not think poachers or big game killers of elephants and rhino's deserve empathy, I do not wish death on any of them (jailing is enough) but if they get killed during their actions to kill these animals then sorry, I do not feel sorry for him.
And lack of empathy is a bad thing if you do not feel empathy for people who deserve empathy but as said, not everybody deserves empathy.
What past time? Hunting? Never.
Lots of people try to rationalize lack of empathy for their fellow man. There are various reasons for the floppy morality, mostly dealing with either emotional outburst or trying to reverse engineer an argument. As I said, I wouldn't necessarily say it's a good thing. Even murderers deserve some amount of empathy, I'm not for needless torture or suffering imposed upon them; they are still human.
Who, in your opinion, is the arbiter for how much empathy we should personally accord 'our fellow man?' Why do you dismiss what might not be your personal view of morality as 'floppy?'
when you set some arbitrary level of what is deemed "worthy" of empathy, you've made a floppy definition. It's built in slop that allows one to slide personal moralities around, many times for simplicity and convenience of argument. I don't know who gets to be "arbiter for how much empathy we should personally accord", but i do believe that with humans that amount of empathy should be greater than zero.
Anybody feel bad for this man?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...-attempting-slaughter-feast-article-1.1194094
When you set some arbitrary level of what is deemed "worthy" of empathy, you've made a floppy definition. It's built in slop that allows one to slide personal moralities around, many times for simplicity and convenience of argument. I don't know who gets to be "arbiter for how much empathy we should personally accord", but I do believe that with humans that amount of empathy should be greater than zero.
Hunting endangered species.
Within reason it's not a big deal.
poachers should be hunted down and beaten to death with their own weapons...
There's another way to look at it too. How many magnificent African wild animals will now be alive in the future that otherwise wouldn't had this guy not been killed ?
Hunting endangered species.
Game Hunter Ian Gibson Trampled To Death By Elephant
I hope the elephant is doing well.
that's really stupid. Professional hunters in AFrica are the front line defense against the senseless poaching that is really causing animal loss. Professional hunters, who pay expensive licensing fees and expensive trophy fees are not the problem. Poaching. But the Bambist twits want to whine about professional hunters and their LICENSED clients because they don't understand how things work over there.
legitimate hunters have always been conservationists.
After careful consideration, I have concluded that it is ethically OK to kill a hunter whose activities threaten the continuing existence of an endangered species, although I support fair trials whenever that is a viable alternative.
Yes we can see just how conservationally minded they obviously are by posing and grinning in pictures like this one
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She must be so proud :2mad:
she should be-looks like she made an accurate shot that harvested the animal quickly
far left types hate hunters mainly because hunters don't tend to have much use for marxist, progressive or socialist ideals
so don't pretend your attacks on hunters is based for a real love of animals. Its based on your view that hunters are disgusted by socialism and collectivism
Hunting to prevent a wild animal from hurting people or being a trouble animal that must be eliminated is one thing, hunting big game for ivory or pleasure is something that I disapprove of and if this guy was doing that and got killed in the process then tough luck for him.
The local guides, the local schools, and the local clinic are probably also proud that they have a renewable natural recourse that people want to pay big money to harvest (Ok, to shoot).Killing a harmless graceful animal like this at close range with a high powered rifle must make her so proud :2mad:
What a truly sick perspective on trophy hunting :roll:
I am most certainly none of the above
Having actually been on safari in Tsavo national Park ,Kenya the last thing in the world I would want to do is kill one of these majestic creatures and then be photographed sitting and proudly smiling next to it.
Just an aside...
Do understand the conditions that domesticated elephants usually face? I think that's the irony of your post. Hunting a wild animal in a fair chase hunt.. where the animal.. as demonstrated, has a chance. And that animal has lived his life till a ripe old age out in the wild... and then he falls to a clean kill from a hunters bullet?
That's way more human than the conditions that domesticated elephants face.
There is a distinct possibility that the elephant owes its existance to managed big game hunting. Several African countries protect their herds very well and now there are more elephants locally than the range can supporta nd they are now eating crops.
Well thought out big game hunting not only allows the local elephant herds to be managed, but as big game hunts are very expensive permit wise and involve alot of "over the top" luxury accomodations, they bring alot of money into the local economy. As another poster mentioned, the people in the area then see the animals as a renewable recesource that they need to protect- instead of viewing them as 10 ton pests.
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