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Gaining a job that pays above minimum wage...how hard is it?


I think you are over-confident.

The best estimates I've seen say that AI is starting to make inroads into "thinking" jobs now.

And it wouldn't be necessary to own the AI. A few minutes a day of access would be equal to MANY man hours.

You don't have to take my word for it. A simple Google search will verify what I'm telling you.

I would put the timeline at less than ten years before it starts to be a real "problem". It all depends on how many fat bonuses AI adoption would facilitate. And accountants make good money. So eliminating them would mean more profits, which results in fat bonuses. Same drive as offshoring.
 

I think you are over-confident. AI is still a new technology, and even then it will be a while before industry accepts it.
 
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We'll see.
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Most of them are only now think about or adopting proper information systems, and even then most are still running on excel, if they have not failed to implement an IS. If companies now cannot implement an IS structure, there is no way they will ever be able to implement an AI. AI within a decade is pretty much near impossible. Trust me, this is what my major is in and I used to be in accounting.
 
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As I said. We'll see. This subject has been an interest of mine for years.

It has consistently outperformed predictions for that entire time.

Playing Go well was considered impossible just a few years ago. Now AI can consistently beat the best.

There was the social media AI that turned into a psycho racist, so there's still work to be done.

Time will tell.
 
My place of business has a perpetual job posting for their call centers. Starting salary is usually around $14.75 an hour. We don't do part-time. These are full-time, 8:00-4:00 jobs. Basically sitting on your ass and taking phone calls. No food service. No custodial work. Just your butt in a chair, with a headset on. It's gotten to the point where the only job prerequisites are a heartbeat, and basic math (adding/subtracting).

Still...we can't keep people. Either they move on to better jobs (which is expected, since they now have experience with the company), or we have to fire them. They get fired because surgery couldn't separate them from their cell phones (and due to the nature of the business, cell phones are not allowed on the floor). They get fired because they refuse to accept responsibility for their actions when they get testy with customers. They get fired because they refuse to abide by an easy dress code by coming to work looking either homeless, or like prostitutes.

Jobs like this are out there. Problem is that people don't want those entry-level jobs. Worse yet, when they get them, they don't take them seriously enough and get fired.
 

But you see, if they could work from home in their pjs, and have kids hollering in the background, they could use their cellphones and eat potato chips while talking to customers.
 

There are some exceptions. Some does have to deal with how well you can sell yourself. My husbands first real IT job that he got just last year started at $65k a year but is definitely a matter of good circumstances and my husband's amazing ability to sell himself well. And they are already talking about promoting him. He actually wasn't the first pick for the job due to his inexperience but the guy they hired first quit the first week because he made some bad assumptions about personnel turnover.
 

Yeah I would say he got really lucky at that. My friend sort of had the same thing happened to him. He applied for his first IT job and didn't hear back from them a month later because the other candidates fell through or weren't interested in the position.
 

I imagine you also have a rather high attrition rate due to the nature of the work.
 

That happens at the religious charity I work for too. But I think it might have something to with the fact that the majority of employees are social workers and they cannot afford nice clothes??? I am only guessing here. One of the directors and I had this conversation about work appropriate clothing at his location recently, since he is like the only guy other than the CEO who comes in with a suit and tie everyday. I try to wear a collared shirt at least and no jeans or sweats, but others don't have that same respect for the work place. Most people jump at the chance to get out of here. I would too, and I am always on the hunt for new IT jobs at interesting places. NYC or DC is the next stop for me.
 
Carjosse said:
I imagine you also have a rather high attrition rate due to the nature of the work.
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Yes, but it's a job. A job that pays much more than minimum wage. You'd think a responsible person would do what it takes to keep that job. Sure, it's a suck job...but it's a job. Responsible people will look for (and eventually acquire) a new/better job BEFORE they lose the job they have.

And there's the point again. No respect for themselves, and no respect for the work place. My job opening that I describe has this dress code: Collared shirt and (clean) jeans. But do some of these ghettolicious people respect that? Nope. Some of these people show up in stretch pants so tight they have camel toe or worst...moose knuckle (ever notice that the people who wear stretch pants....shouldn't?) They show up in see-through t-shirts. They show up in the rattiest clothes they have. Again...it's much more than minimum wage. A quick trip to Walmart or Target gets them a compliant outfit for $50.

...oh, but they're more than willing to tell you about their brand new iPhone, or those $300 hair extensions.
 
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