Gabbard To Release More Obama Russiagate Files, 'Cannot Fathom' How Durham, Mueller Missed Evidence Of 'Years-Long Coup'

[Jagged]

He may have said 27 times you'll need 10000 and it still doesn't matter. He didn't say why because he didn't want to admit that he expected 10k Antifa to show up. You will have to show me the written order or the official who is claiming he gave a verbal imperative statement as a command.

Show me where Trump has a written order or a witness to an explicit verbal command.

I am not aware of any evidence he ever said it more than once. It was reported he asked for Guard support in a meeting with Milley and Miller. Milley lacked authority to activate the National Guard, and Miller, who would have needed to make the request to McCarthy, but didn't, citing bad optics being his reason.

 

[soap box]

I am not aware of any evidence he ever said it more than once. It was reported he asked for Guard support in a meeting with Milley and Miller. Milley lacked authority to activate the National Guard, and Miller, who would have needed to make the request to McCarthy, but didn't, citing bad optics being his reason.

I agree. I think our fellow member forgot who told them to be there in the first place.

 

[soap box]

lol



You got played bud! The moment pentagon officials repeatedly asked Trump why he needed 10thousand troops you should have known that they wouldn’t ask why if he never asked for them lol.

Do you remember who lied about election fraud?

Do you remember whose supporters went to DC in 2021?

That came before all you've posted. Trump is responsible for the riot.

 

[Daddyo]

Wow , exculpatory evidence! You must tell me what that was. I really want to know. Please post the exculpatory evidence that was omitted.



He mentioned it many times and didn't issue a verbal or written order. He never told the Pentagon officials that he believed 10k Antifa would start a fight.
He didn't want to explain it to the Pentagon officials because he was aware of the online threats of violence among his own supporters. His plan would have been to stop the EC by invoking the riot act, but he realized it would be his supporters that's would be arrested if the Act was invoked.

Stop here. You're saying exculpatory evidence is about him asking for NG, when it's clear he refused to call the NG when the riot was underway?

Do you see the stupid contradiction in this?
You're saying he's exonerated because he dreamed of a big fight with Antifa, then they don't show up and he refuses to call the guard.

That's not exculpatory of anything at all.

The paper coup is the constitutional crime.


Total flaming pile of crap lie about a great American. Mueller is 40 times the man trump can only dream about because he told the truth about trump.



Thanks for reminding me that you can say which decisions or conclusions changed in the new version of the ICA?


Yes, which conclusion was changed?
The ICA didn't mention collusion at all.


And Strock didn't change anything either.

That Trump offered the guard, spoke of offering the guard, asked if they needed the guard, whatever you like to call it and they hid that from Americans. Jan 6th committee hid that fact, why? Because they didn’t want anything coming out that questioned their narrative of Trump ordering an attack on the capital. Why would he offer the guard if he planned to attack……is what they tried to avoid coming out.

I’m saying he offered the guard and they didn’t want those optics. He believed there would be trouble from counter protesters (Antifa) who had been violent against Trump supporters in the past.

Mueller is a partisan hack just like the team members in his witch hunt.

I already said not much changed. Obama ordered that the new assessment highlight the ways Russia tried to influence our election, why? He knew those efforts failed yet he ordered them to be highlighted lol. You know why but you will lose if you admit it lol. Obama gets charged if he admits it lol. Pathetic.

Never said Strzok changed anything.

 

[soap box]

That Trump offered the guard, spoke of offering the guard, asked if they needed the guard, whatever you like to call it and they hid that from Americans. Jan 6th committee hid that fact, why? Because they didn’t want anything coming out that questioned their narrative of Trump ordering an attack on the capital. Why would he offer the guard if he planned to attack……is what they tried to avoid coming out.

I’m saying he offered the guard and they didn’t want those optics. He believed there would be trouble from counter protesters (Antifa) who had been violent against Trump supporters in the past.

Our fellow member outlined that accurately in post #1,226

You posted something untrue. The select committee did not hide the meeting. It's in the report in four different places. Here's one excerpt:

"Now, as January 6th approached, the
President again wanted to be there, on the ground, as his supporters marched on the U.S. Capitol. The President’s advisors tried to talk him out of it.

White House Senior Advisor Max Miller “shot it down immediately” because of concerns about the President’s safety. Pierson agreed. But President Trump was persistent, and he floated the idea of having 10,000 National Guardsmen deployed to protect him and his supporters from any supposed threats by leftwing counter-protestors. Miller again rejected the President’s idea, saying that the National Guard was not necessary for the event. Miller testi- fied that there was no further conversation on the matter. After the meeting, Miller texted Pierson, “Just glad we killed the national guard and a procession.” That is, President Trump briefly considered having the National Guard oversee his procession to the U.S. Capitol. The President did not order the National Guard to protect the U.S. Capitol, or to secure the joint session proceedings."

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf

Mueller is a partisan hack just like the team members in his witch hunt.

That's disgraceful to lie about a principaled man who served in Vietnam and served his country in law enforcement his entire life. He has the temerity and courage to tell the American people the truth they deserve. It's absolutely disgusting to see you slander a virtuous man in your vain attempt to defend a president with no morals.

I already said not much changed. Obama ordered that the new assessment highlight the ways Russia tried to influence our election, why? He knew those efforts failed yet he ordered them to be highlighted lol. You know why.

Yes I do. The accusations are about an unprecedented multi-pronged attempt. The results cannot be measured. That's what it says in the ICA. Obama and I are right about this. The consensus concerning the results of their attempts was that we will never really know how many votes they may have changed/influenced. How is anybody supposed to count the number of voters that voted for trump because of memes?

but you will lose if you admit it lol. Obama gets charged if he admits it lol. Pathetic.

Neither me nor Obama are admitting anything because Obama was right and the ICA is all true.

Never said Strzok changed anything.

Great.

Do you remember who lied about election fraud?

Do you remember whose supporters went to DC in 2021?

That came before all you've posted. Trump is responsible for the riot.

 

[VySky]

Our fellow member outlined that accurately in post #1,226

You posted something untrue. The select committee did not hide the meeting. It's in the report in four different places. Here's one excerpt:

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-J6-REPORT/pdf/GPO-J6-REPORT.pdf

That's disgraceful to lie about a principaled man who served in Vietnam and served his country in law enforcement his entire life. He has the temerity and courage to tell the American people the truth they deserve. It's absolutely disgusting to see you slander a virtuous man in your vain attempt to defend a president with no morals.



Yes I do. The accusations are about an unprecedented multi-pronged attempt. The results cannot be measured. That's what it says in the ICA. Obama and I are right about this. The consensus concerning the results of their attempts was that we will never really know how many votes they may have changed/influenced. How is anybody supposed to count the number of voters that voted for trump because of memes?


Neither me nor Obama are admitting anything because Obama was right and the ICA is all true.



Great.

Do you remember who lied about election fraud?

Do you remember whose supporters went to DC in 2021?

That came before all you've posted. Trump is responsible for the riot.

Trump is not responsible for other people’s actions. A person is responsible for their own actions. Period.

 

[Daddyo]

LOL The reason what is happening? Putin is killing Ukrainian civilians nightly and the fighting goes on with no end in sight. You are as gullible as Trump I see. You cannot tell when someone is buttering you up to get you to bend to their will. Trump is a sucker for praise and yes the europeans heaped it on thick. So did Putin. The truth is nothing has changed in the war and Putin gave up nothing to Trump and neither did Ukraine. That is a good thing since Trump was trying to hand Ukraine to Russia after he spoke with Putin in Alaska. Manipulating Trump has become the world's pastime and you eat it up.

Blah blah blah. You wouldn’t recognize progress if bit you on the butt. Nothing Trump does will please someone like you.

The man could stop murder for 11 days in one of the most dangerous cities in the country and you would bitch about it.

 

[soap box]

Trump is not responsible for other people’s actions. A person is responsible for their own actions. Period.

Trump is responsible for his actions. The only reason his supporters were there is because he lied about election fraud.

And that's a hoot to see you say that when you blame everything on Pelosi when she never knew the rioters would go inside the building.

 

[Jagged]

Trump is not responsible for other people’s actions. A person is responsible for their own actions. Period.

That remains to be seen.

As Jan. 6 Criminal Cases Against Trump Fizzle, Civil Cases Plod Ahead

There have been many efforts, over nearly four years, to hold Donald J. Trump accountable for the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but almost all of them have been stymied in the end by failure or delay.

There is, however, one endeavor that is still alive and moving forward, albeit somewhat gingerly: a suite of eight civil lawsuits, accusing Mr. Trump of inciting his supporters to storm the Capitol on Jan. 6.​

Regardless, if not for Trump's actions, J6 is just another Wednesday.

 

[Daddyo]

Question. Explain why President Trump on for 1/6 could only offer up the NG and someone else had to approve the deployment and yet in his second term activated the NG to help pollice Washington DC?

Is it not true that those holding events like Jan6 are responsible for the event security? Jan6 was a political event. imo, Trump's campaign would be responsible for the security of the event.

“
The key distinction
The fundamental difference lies in the chain of command for the National Guard depending on whether it is a state or federal-level deployment:

• During the January 6th attack: The deployment required navigating a bureaucratic federal approval process involving the Pentagon and Capitol security officials, which created significant delays.
• In recent D.C. deployments: The president has direct control over the D.C. National Guard and has been able to use executive authority to mandate a deployment, bypassing the complexities seen in 2021. ”

The January 6th rally went perfectly. Once the people left responsibility ended. Contrary to all the lies your leftist filth comrades continue to push, Trump asked his supporters to be peaceful and use only voices. His speech was no different than many by other politicians before him. Claims of being cheated. Demanding supporters continue the fight for the cause etc. The only difference is Trump Derangement Syndrome. You hate the man that bad lol. Pathetic.

 

[Daddyo]

Even Ivanka begged her father to call out the guard and he refused. Few know that the point of the riot was to delay Congress from certifying the electoral vote so Trump could throw the election into the House where he would win. He did nothing until it was obvious that the plan had failed.

Jan. 6 panel has 'firsthand testimony' Ivanka Trump asked father to intervene in riot, Cheney says​

GOP Rep. Liz Cheney said the panel also had testimony that the then-president was watching the attack on TV as allies, including his daughter, asked him to do something.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...stimony-ivanka-asked-trump-intervene-n1286831

Same Liz Cheney who hid testimony about Trump offering the national guard?

 

[Daddyo]

Democrats are responsible for a registered Republican taking, and thankfully missing, shots at Trump?

And what triggered Hodgkinson?

I’m going to change my party affiliation to Demonrat. Never mind that I will still donate to and support Republicans lol. The assassin donated to a Democrat get out the vote organization lol. One helluva Republican.

 

[iguanaman]

Same Liz Cheney who hid testimony about Trump offering the national guard?

LOL That is a lie. Use your brain. If Trump offered the National guard it would have been there in a hour. Everyone around Trump were begging him to call them out and he refused until he saw that the goal of the riot was not going to happen. There were no hostages to drag Congress's critical vote beyond midnight and throw the election into the House. It may have seemed to some to be an impromptu event but this was a carefully planned attempt to thwart the vote of the people. You seem oblivious to the treasonous behavior of Trump and his minions.

 

[Airyaman]

Any charges yet? Indictments?

 

[VySky]

Trump is responsible for the riot.

No he's not. We've already shown that to be lie.

 

[soap box]

Same Liz Cheney who hid testimony about Trump offering the national guard?

The committee didn't hide the trump offer. The committee included it in the final report four times. What you posted is untrue.

 

[soap box]

No he's not. We've already shown that to be lie.

The riot could not possibly have happened without him.

Who lied about election fraud?

Who told the supporters to come to DC?

Explain how the riot could possibly have happened without trump.

 

[soap box]

Any charges yet? Indictments?

Ho ho ho ha ha ha very funny, coming around for the thousand post lap I see. Nah , this administration cannot walk and chew gum at the same time so no, it's still just a headline, nothing more.

 

[LouC]

Gabbard To Release More Obama Russiagate Files, 'Cannot Fathom' How Durham, Mueller Missed Evidence Of 'Years-Long Coup'!​

Gabbard wouldn't recognize a 12 pound brick of evidence if it fell on her foot.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

That Trump offered the guard, spoke of offering the guard, asked if they needed the guard, whatever you like to call it and they hid that from Americans. Jan 6th committee hid that fact, why? Because they didn’t want anything coming out that questioned their narrative of Trump ordering an attack on the capital. Why would he offer the guard if he planned to attack……is what they tried to avoid coming out.

I’m saying he offered the guard and they didn’t want those optics. He believed there would be trouble from counter protesters (Antifa) who had been violent against Trump supporters in the past.

Every single thing you purport above is 100% false.

Former acting SECDEF Chris Miller testified that at no point prior to, or on January 6th, 2021, did Traitor Trump order any National Guard troops to protect the Capitol Building/Congress.


Miller’s testimony was included as part of the January 6th hearings and is (obviously) still easily accessible today.

Beyond pathetic, and disgraceful for anyone to post utter trash like you’re now attempting.

 

[soap box]

... Contrary to all the lies your leftist filth comrades continue to push, Trump asked his supporters to be peaceful and use only voices. His speech was no different than many by other politicians before him. Claims of being cheated. Demanding supporters continue the fight for the cause etc.....

There's a factually defined way words are used under rules of grammar. Trump used the word "fight" figuratively. It's a figure of speech, not a literal imperative.

How did his supporters who heard his speech think that "peacefully make our voices heard" wasn't also used just as figuratively, a figure of speech?

So they say fight for football teams, but they don't really mean fight. But they knock each other over like the rioters did so maybe that's not the same.

Do fans cheer fight at Hockey games? Baseball? Basketball ? Let's go with hockey and let's see how many people cheer "peacefully". Then count how many people scream "sock em".

They were there because Trump lied about fraud and he had no legal way to remain president.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump is not responsible for other people’s actions. A person is responsible for their own actions. Period.

No matter how hard Traitor Trump loyalists try, the record/proof of Traitor Trump’s betrayal won’t ever be erased from history recorded here and around the world.

Traitor Trump is responsible for inciting his supporters to commit the carnage at the Capitol building on 1/6/21.

No reasonable/objective listener to his completely unhinged barrage of lies and invective prior to the historic attack on Congress by his crazy ass, violent cultists would argue that he is not responsible for inciting that lawless action.

And after firing up his supporters to attack Congress, the traitorous piece of shit sat, for 187 minutes, watching the carnage he incited, refusing pleas from administration members, family, and even his best boy, Sean Hannity, to do anything to stop the attack.

 

[mike2810]

“
The key distinction
The fundamental difference lies in the chain of command for the National Guard depending on whether it is a state or federal-level deployment:

• During the January 6th attack: The deployment required navigating a bureaucratic federal approval process involving the Pentagon and Capitol security officials, which created significant delays.
• In recent D.C. deployments: The president has direct control over the D.C. National Guard and has been able to use executive authority to mandate a deployment, bypassing the complexities seen in 2021. ”

Not buying your explanation. Care to provide the law or legislation that backs up what you stated along with a link.

The January 6th rally went perfectly. Once the people left responsibility ended.

wait, didn't Trump ask the participants to go to the Capital to "peacefully" protest.
Doesn't sound like that was the end of the rally.

Contrary to all the lies your leftist filth comrades continue to push,

and with that you lost any creditability you might have had. What is with some Trump supporters with the name calling. Oh wait. they are just following the Presidents example.
(Was a Republican for more than 50 years., Now Independent because both Parties have lost their way.

Trump asked his supporters to be peaceful and use only voices. His speech was no different than many by other politicians before him.

true.

Claims of being cheated. Demanding supporters continue the fight for the cause etc.

and to this day Trump and his supporters have provided no evidence that Trump was cheated in 2020.

The only difference is Trump Derangement Syndrome. You hate the man that bad lol. Pathetic.

That is so yesterday.
Why is it that if someone disagrees with Trump it is because of hate? Have you ever disagreed with anyone without hating them?
The difference is some suffer from TDS (Trump Defense Syndrome). Because they had anyone who disagrees with Trump.

 

[Daddyo]

To whom did Trump offer the National Guard and get refused?

Christopher Miller. He was told by Trump that 10,000 guardsmen should be deployed. He feared that such a deployment would appear as a military coup.

And the whole point of this is to show that Trump did suggest the deployment of the NG. This shits all over the accusation that Trump was behind the 1/6 supposed insurrection attempt. Why offer the guard if you plan to take over?

It’s also why Liz Chaney hid Millers testimony backing Trumps claim to have offered the guard. They also failed to mention that Trump told his supporters to go peacefully make their voices heard. I had to re watch the rally speech to find that out. Pathetic.

 

[Daddyo]

Yeah we'll need a stat for that. They don't get pardoned like the Jan 6 traitors either.

No need to be pardoned if the get released quickly.