Gabbard To Release More Obama Russiagate Files, 'Cannot Fathom' How Durham, Mueller Missed Evidence Of 'Years-Long Coup'

[Luce]

You probably didn’t provide an answer in the last thread either.

You get your digs in and offer nothing lol. Like I said classic leftist bullshit debating.

Try this……what is dishonest?

Try this also……what is delusional and why?

Then I can rebut your assertion. That’s how it works bud. Not this bullshit….. your nuts and not worth the effort….. garbage. That’s the real trollish shit.

You seem upset.

 

[Luce]

The secrecy at the time. The questions at the time. He lived in Hawaii and Indonesia as a child.

And race has exactly zero to do with it. That’s you projecting again.

Hawaii is US soil.

 

[Daddyo]

In every faction, there are outliers, what matters is the behavior of the collective. You may not have lost your shit as an individual, but the collective you belong to did.

And that hate of a black man revealed itself in Trumps Birtherism. That is what your faction did and is doing right now. It is all out there in the open either own up to what your collective is doing or leave them. You cannot have it both ways.

This is nothing more than a confession. The party of identity politics projecting its beliefs upon others. I got into it for a brief period of time decades ago hoping that republicans would nominate a minority female to battle against the identity politics from your side. I soon realized that doing that itself was racist. That’s the sum of your party today. Nothing but a bunch of race hustlers.

And they hate white people these days lol. Things have gone 360 degrees for your party. They started out as the KKK creating racist democrats party. They became big advocates for minorities as long as they weren’t in their backyards. Now they are once again the racist party only today the oppressed are white folks.

Nothing a single person I know from the Republican Party has ever once treated me differently than my white friends. And never once have I witnessed any semblance of racism from them. Your party OTOH is nothing but identity politics. It’s pathetic.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The OP got suckered.

Again

 

[Daddyo]

what treatment is that that you alleged I gave Trump?
Your statement regarding what I have said about Trump is not true. When appropriate I proved sources to back up what I say. What about you?

You are saying the audits, investigations, recounts, etc. on the 2020 election were wrong that concluded the election was not rigged/stolen. You can check other threads that discussed the topic for what sources I used to back up what I posted.

So you never ever said trump colluded with Russia? I find that very hard to believe.

As for the election, I agree that the audits, recounts, and investigations have turned up zilch. But I also believe that something happened. Dominion took possession of voting machines after the election so I didn’t expect anything that might have been there to still be there as far as evidence. So why did this election and this election alone have so many more votes overall than other elections? A surge of votes for that election only? If you believe the surge was because of Trump, folks trying to keep him out, then why no surge to elect Hillary, a much stronger candidate than Biden? Why no Trump induced surge to help Harris? So it wasn’t Trump IMO. So what was it? Was it Biden himself? Biden was mentally compromised and republicans knew it back then. He refused to campaign full force. He was very weak as a candidate and personally. He was, up until Harris, the worst candidate I have ever seen from your side. Worse than Dukakis. Yet he gets 81 million votes. More than the best candidate I’ve seen from them, Obama. So I can’t believe it. Something happened but it’s all been looked at. Still no way Biden, who couldn’t get 81 cars at a drive up rally in a blue city (tampa), could get 81,000,000 votes. No way he loses more minority support to Trump and still wins. So why, how?

Then I find out that millions and millions of mail in ballots were mailed to every voter in several key states because of COVID. Ballots that are considered as the easiest way to cheat. Ballots without the tradition checks and balances placed on regular mail in ballots used today. And to cap it all off the signature proof was on the outside of the envelope and they were tossed in the trash. So I have my answer. I now know why that election saw such a massive spike in votes. While proving it is impossible, it explains everything including the return to normal election numbers despite Trump still being on the ballot again.

And I have checked out many sources on this issue trust me. There is no physical evidence to prove it. All there is is circumstantial. I totally understand people disagreeing given this fact.

 

[Daddyo]

Lie. Obama released his birth certificate while running for president.

No he released a certification of live birth first. Then after it became an issue he released the long form version. The one we all know about not the short version.

 

[mike2810]

So you never ever said trump colluded with Russia? I find that very hard to believe.

there you going wanting to "believe".
I have in other threads stated imo Trump lied about elections. I have backed that up with evidence that many of Trump's statements are not supported by the facts.

I have said that investigation reports support that Russian hackers hacked various emails.

As for the election, I agree that the audits, recounts, and investigations have turned up zilch. But I also believe that something happened.

again, belief not supported by evidence.

Dominion took possession of voting machines after the election so I didn’t expect anything that might have been there to still be there as far as evidence.

what State, link did that happen in?

So why did this election and this election alone have so many more votes overall than other elections?

imo, greater interest in the election.

A surge of votes for that election only? If you believe the surge was because of Trump, folks trying to keep him out, then why no surge to elect Hillary, a much stronger candidate than Biden? Why no Trump induced surge to help Harris? So it wasn’t Trump IMO. So what was it? Was it Biden himself? Biden was mentally compromised and republicans knew it back then. He refused to campaign full force. He was very weak as a candidate and personally. He was, up until Harris, the worst candidate I have ever seen from your side. Worse than Dukakis. Yet he gets 81 million votes. More than the best candidate I’ve seen from them, Obama. So I can’t believe it. Something happened but it’s all been looked at. Still no way Biden, who couldn’t get 81 cars at a drive up rally in a blue city (tampa), could get 81,000,000 votes. No way he loses more minority support to Trump and still wins. So why, how?

Might as well ask why Trump has never provided the evidence that the 2020 election was rigged/stolen.

Then I find out that millions and millions of mail in ballots were mailed to every voter in several key states because of COVID. Ballots that are considered as the easiest way to cheat. Ballots without the tradition checks and balances placed on regular mail in ballots used today. And to cap it all off the signature proof was on the outside of the envelope and they were tossed in the trash. So I have my answer. I now know why that election saw such a massive spike in votes. While proving it is impossible, it explains everything including the return to normal election numbers despite Trump still being on the ballot again.

your concern and opinion are noted regarding mail in ballots.
Here is one for you. In Arizona, the election laws were written and passed by Republicans. That include mail in voting. The GOP has been in control of the State Legislature for decades.
So, if there is a problem with the election methods, who should be held accountable?

And I have checked out many sources on this issue trust me. There is no physical evidence to prove it. All there is is circumstantial. I totally understand people disagreeing given this fact.

I also have looked at the Trump supporters theories about the election. Most of the theories is based on statements Trump and his staff put out.
At this point in time I do not accept most of what Trump says as factual. It is spin.

 

[Michael Cole]

Day 14. Where are those confounded files?

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

This is nothing more than a confession. The party of identity politics projecting its beliefs upon others. I got into it for a brief period of time decades ago hoping that republicans would nominate a minority female to battle against the identity politics from your side. I soon realized that doing that itself was racist. That’s the sum of your party today. Nothing but a bunch of race hustlers.

And they hate white people these days lol. Things have gone 360 degrees for your party. They started out as the KKK creating racist democrats party. They became big advocates for minorities as long as they weren’t in their backyards. Now they are once again the racist party only today the oppressed are white folks.

Nothing a single person I know from the Republican Party has ever once treated me differently than my white friends. And never once have I witnessed any semblance of racism from them. Your party OTOH is nothing but identity politics. It’s pathetic.

Just because I oppose your piece of shit political party does not mean I support the other piece of shit political party.

 

[Daddyo]

I don't think it "caused" it, but he certainly contributed to it. Had I been in the Senate for that second impeachment trial I would have found him guilty.


Yes, reckless language from the left can also cause problems, as it did for Rep. Scalise and almost for Justice Kavanaugh and his family.

I don't have a problem speaking out against overheated language from either side. How about you?

I’m not surprised lol.

I am also against reckless language. I just don’t believe that saying the election was rigged and telling his supporters to fight like hell and peacefully make their voices heard is reckless. I believe that your party used his rally to blame him for the actions of a few morons on January 6th. Which is why they lied and said that Trump never said to PEACEFULLY make their VOICES heard during his rally. Then they lied again, including the 1/6th committee and said that he never offered the national guard before 1/6. Which obviously would have damaged their claims of his involvement. Lies designed to turn the American people, including many republicans who just blindly believed the bullshit, against Trump. They used the issue to lessen what would have been a red wave. It was pure politics and a disgrace. Genius but disgraceful.

I don’t believe that the rhetoric being used by the Democrats against Trump was so reckless as to cause normal people to actually shoot him. While it is vile, disgusting, and dishonest, normal folks wouldn’t, shouldn’t, be moved to assassination from it.

However if you believe Trump caused 1/6 then you must believe democrats caused Trump to be shot. If not you are simply not consistent.

 

[NatMorton]

However if you believe Trump caused 1/6 then you must believe democrats caused Trump to be shot. If not you are simply not consistent.

No, I don't, and I don't go in for foolish consistencies.

 

[Daddyo]

What’s alleged of Obama and his administration doesn’t legally constitute as “treason.” The dujour is to allege the political adversary committed treason, lack of inquisitiveness as to its meaning is political expedience.

Furthermore, where’s the lie? To have a productive dialogue requires some commonality as to the meaning of “lie.”

Lie: to say or write something that you know is not true. Oxford Dictionary.

Having reviewing what is made available to the public, there’s nothing establishing a “lie.”
Disagreement as to what is factual? Yes. Disagreement as to what in fact transpired? Yes. Disagreement as what can or cannot be inferred from the facts? Yes.

So, illuminate the “lie.”

Actually Obama ORDERED his intelligence officials to make a false assessment. He then knowingly allowed that assessment to be used as fact. He is not just a lying piece of shit but a treasonous banana republic imitating lying piece of shit.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Perhaps everybody missed the masses of evidence because it hadn't been created yet.

 

[US&THEM]

Actually Obama ORDERED his intelligence officials to make a false assessment. He then knowingly allowed that assessment to be used as fact. He is not just a lying piece of shit but a treasonous banana republic imitating lying piece of shit.

Sure he did and Obama forced Pence to fired General Flynn and on and on.

 

[Brack]

Dominion took possession of voting machines after the election so I didn’t expect anything that might have been there to still be there as far as evidence.

 

[Daddyo]

How many people would it take to pull off this massive fraud?

Less than 80,000 votes. Less than 44,000 separated the two from a tie in the electoral college. 150,000,000 plus votes and less than 80k changed everything.

 

[Daddyo]

what coup attempt in 2020?

The coup attempt was in 2017 thru 2018 as the Dems sought to impeach Trump over the Russian collusion LIE that Obama and Hillary manufactured.

 

[Jezcoe]

Less than 80,000 votes. Less than 44,000 separated the two from a tie in the electoral college. 150,000,000 plus votes and less than 80k changed everything.

That is a shit ton of votes to fake.

How many people do you think would be involved in that scheme to inject tens of thousands of fraudulent votes over multiple States and leave no trace that it happened?

 

[Daddyo]

He also asked them to attend and it is "going to be wild".
Yes, Trump asked them to be peacefully in their actions. That didn't work out did it?
Why hold the rally on 1/6. Why not sooner after the EC vote count was known?


I blame Trump and those who took part in the violence.
Lumping me with others is your bias. I have never supported the killing of any politician or the attempts on Trump.
The topic of Trump's shooting is separate from discussing 1/6.

What you have is Trump's talking points. Your use of lawfare is way over used.
Don't care if you agree with me or not. You can have your opinion. I have mine. Mine just happens to backed with facts and reality. lol

Don’t know or care why they chose 1/6. Nothing Trump said that day caused the riot that day.

Your support for assassinations is irrelevant. Someone in your party acted out because of the rotten rhetoric from your party. This must be the case since you believe words caused 1/6. The words your comrades used were far more incendiary than anything Trump said. Not to mention Joe Biden saying to put Trump in the bullseye just days before someone put him in the crosshairs.

The facts are as follows. Democrats have multiple violent events across the country over the years to include the murder and two attempts to murder a political opponent. We are talking hundreds of billions in damage, explosives, gun shots, fire bombs, hundreds of injured, and more than 20 killed. Republicans have one event, Jan 6th which was nothing more than a riot at the whitehouse. The only death was caused by police shooting a rioter.

Democrats have used words like fight and have claimed the 2016 election was stolen and no one is calling that a call to insurrection. Just for Trump lol.

BTW I spend 11 days sleeping in my gun shop because of democrats during the floyd riots. Prevented multiple attempts to break into that gun shop. The wind shield on my vehicle was shot in that 11 day stretch. I know all about some of that democrat violence.

 

[Daddyo]

That is a shit ton of votes to fake.

How many people do you think would be involved in that scheme to inject tens of thousands of fraudulent votes over multiple States and leave no trace that it happened?

Sure if you call one one thousandth a shit ton.

81,000,000 divided by .001 is 81,000.

 

[Jezcoe]

Sure if you call one one thousandth a shit ton.

81,000,000 divided by .001 is 81,000.

Our election system is able to detect dozens of fraudulent ballots in mayoral primary in Connecticut. Five people were involved in doing this.

Bridgeport Democrats in court to face election-related charges

Five Bridgeport Democratic officials made their first appearance in court after being accused of abusing Connecticut's absentee ballot system and other election-related crimes during city's 2023 mayoral primary.

www.ctpublic.org

You are talking about tens of thousands of votes over multiple States in a National Election without leaving shred of evidence that it happened.

It strains credulity.

 

[Daddyo]

Not true that it's the only election which had ballots mailed to every registered voter. There's about 9 states which do that, and have been doing that for a number of years, and did it again in 2024. Even worse for your hallucinations of widespread election fraud, only ONE of those states was contested by Trump. As far as signatures, only one contested state had an issue with that but that state, a red state, performed 2 subsequent recounts which both confirmed Biden won. I'm no fan of Biden. I didn't vote for him. But Trump played his hand even before the election, letting everyone know he was going to howl how the election was fraudulently stolen from him if he lost. Which of course, is exactly what he did.

2008 19 percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2012 16 percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2016 24 percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2020 ?? Percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2024 30 Percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

Care to guess based on past historical trends? 43 percent of the ballots cast in 2020 were mail in ballots.

Take Michigan for example in 2020 3.3 million voted by mail. In 2024 it was 2 million. Biden won by 154,000 votes. 1,300,000 more mail in ballots for that election. Hardly a stretch to think that cheating changed things.

 

[eohrnberger]

2008 19 percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2012 16 percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2016 24 percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2020 ?? Percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

2024 30 Percent of the ballots were mail in ballots

Care to guess based on past historical trends? 43 percent of the ballots cast in 2020 were mail in ballots.

Take Michigan for example in 2020 3.3 million voted by mail. In 2024 it was 2 million. Biden won by 154,000 votes. 1,300,000 more mail in ballots for that election. Hardly a stretch to think that cheating changed things.

I recall when this specific topic, the number of mail in ballots, came up before.

Yep, but WHY?


True.


He knew there was shenanigans in 2020 (on both sides obviously).

This election proved it to many.

I'm inclined to agree with the expression opinion above.

 

[soap box]

I’ll ask you sir, what reason or reasons would a president have for ordering a false intelligence assessment that was opposite of the known truth?

We know he ordered it. We know that there is zero LEGITIMATE reason to have a fake assessment manufactured. We know that Obama called for meetings over this issue. We also know that Peter Strzok, when asked what of Trump wins, told his lover and fellow FBI agent that there was an insurance policy should that happen.

The leftists refuse to answer so I thought you could do it for them.

What was manufactured if everything in the ICA is still true?

What claim in the ICA do you believe isn't true?

 

[mike2810]

The coup attempt was in 2017 thru 2018 as the Dems sought to impeach Trump over the Russian collusion LIE that Obama and Hillary manufactured.

I see you have bought into the Trump spin. Got it.