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Gabbard To Release More Obama Russiagate Files, 'Cannot Fathom' How Durham, Mueller Missed Evidence Of 'Years-Long Coup'

NatMorton said:
No, that was not my response, though your post is ironic. Do you really think you're doing anything here other than "but Trump?"
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We are assessing the credibility of Trump/Gabbard's claim, since at the moment all we have is Tulsi's word. And yes, it was your response.
 
Cameron said:
Trump told lies that resulted in thousands of his supporters storming Congress in an attempt to prevent the transfer of power, hang his VP, and keep him in office.
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Even if we take them at face value about Biden: he ran a stable, healthy admin that got us out of covid and fixed Trump's shit economy. He avoided a recession. Unclear the danger fhep nation was in. Especially vs now.
 
NatMorton said:
No one, least of all me, is arguing Trump isn't a liar.
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But you are arguing that his lies are meager compared to Democrat lies.

No, it does not, yet you seem to think Democratic lies get a pass because Trump lied about his ankles.

:rolleyes:
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I never inferred that at all.

Biden has issues. And as with previous Presidents (FDR, Wilson, Reagan) it’s covered up as best as can be. MAGA like to think the only President ever to have medical or physical issues was Biden. And Trump is as healthy as a 25 yr old marathon runner

Same with Trump.
 
The Brad Dad said:
No one is upset because this is just bullshit. Trump has been revealed as a child predator, so it's time to wave the black guy at the base, remind everyone why they're here in the first place.
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ROFL, that's the "narrative of the day"........Trump's a pedophile to detract from the utter corruption of the Democrat party. There's plenty of threads on this to speak your hearts desire, go find them.

How does it make you feel to being the victim of such atrocious propaganda by your party leaders and government agencies? They lied and you fell for it.
 
redbeer said:
ROFL, that's the "narrative of the day"........Trump's a pedophile to detract from the utter corruption of the Democrat party. There's plenty of threads on this to speak your hearts desire, go find them.

How does it make you feel to being the victim of such atrocious propaganda by your party leaders and government agencies? They lied and you fell for it.
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Cannot wait to vote D up and down the line during the midterms. ;)
 
NatMorton said:
Do your really believe one side has a monopoly on the truth?
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Of course not, the political spin machine does not give Democrats nor Republicans some monopoly on truth. But we do have far more evidence that both are willing to engage in exaggeration, deceptive argument, and straight up lying when the political moment commands that behavior.

NatMorton said:
No, I'm not attempting to equate them. I am asserting that when you consider the possible impact to the nation, both the Russia collusion hoax and the lying about Biden's cognitive impairments are lies that as as bad or worse than any lie Donald Trump has told.
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Now you are arguing perception, alignment to one side over the other as a means to suggest misrepresentation from Democrats is worse that Republicans. There will be times that is true, other times where that is not true, and I doubt your objectiveness to agree to that.

Democrats lying about Biden's obvious decline is worse than Trump forgetting he appointed Powell in some statement bashing him. Trump lying about the 2020 election outcome fueling the Jan 6th attempt to prevent certification of the vote is worse than Biden lying about the inflation rate when he came into office.

Those are just examples.
 
All this and still no one has shown any supporting documentation.
 
Cameron said:
Well then your previous point seems to have been an evasion. My point is that Obama/Mueller are far more trustworthy than Trump/Gabbard. Your response is "but Biden." Thanks.
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No, it's not evasion. This thread is about whether the Democrats lied about Russian collusion. It is you and others here who are attempting to deflect the conversation away from that topic.
 
NuffSaid said:
MAGA still hate Obama because he was black AND popular.
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They will never forgive the black guy for being more popuar and successful than the child rapist they voted for 3 times.
 
NatMorton said:
What lie did Trump tell that was potentially more impactful than pretending the man commanding the US military, and holding the nation's nuclear codes, was suffering permanent cognitive impairment?
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2020 election was stolen
Covid is like the flu and it will disappear
Denied links between Russia and his campaign during the 2016 campaign
Mexico will pay for the wall.
 
Cameron said:
We are assessing the credibility of Trump/Gabbard's claim, since at the moment all we have is Tulsi's word. And yes, it was your response.
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You won't find me taking what the Trump administration says at face value.
 
NatMorton said:
No, it's not evasion. This thread is about whether the Democrats lied about Russian collusion. It is you and others here who are attempting to deflect the conversation away from that topic.
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Mmm, and how are we supposed to assess "whether the Democrats lied about Russian collusion" when all we have at the moment is Tulsi's say so? Other than by assessing Tulsi and the administration's credibility and apparent ulterior motives, or, in your case, taking them at face value?
 
OrphanSlug said:
Of course not, the political spin machine does not give Democrats nor Republicans some monopoly on truth. But we do have far more evidence that both are willing to engage in exaggeration, deceptive argument, and straight up lying when the political moment commands that behavior.



Now you are arguing perception, alignment to one side over the other as a means to suggest misrepresentation from Democrats is worse that Republicans. There will be times that is true, other times where that is not true, and I doubt your objectiveness to agree to that.

Democrats lying about Biden's obvious decline is worse than Trump forgetting he appointed Powell in some statement bashing him. Trump lying about the 2020 election outcome fueling the Jan 6th attempt to prevent certification of the vote is worse than Biden lying about the inflation rate when he came into office.

Those are just examples.
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All politicians lie, but Trump is an acute case. He fabricates from whole cloth, and with dementia.
 
redbeer said:
ROFL, that's the "narrative of the day"........Trump's a pedophile to detract from the utter corruption of the Democrat party. There's plenty of threads on this to speak your hearts desire, go find them.

How does it make you feel to being the victim of such atrocious propaganda by your party leaders and government agencies? They lied and you fell for it.
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It's all just manufactured bullshit that both sides come up with to help them sling mud at the other. None of it means anything. Republicans and Democrats are both so equally entrenched in their separate propaganda domes that you can't even see you're exactly the same.
 
NuffSaid said:
But you are arguing that his lies are meager compared to Democrat lies.
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Straw-man alert.

NuffSaid said:
I never inferred that at all.

Biden has issues. And as with previous Presidents (FDR, Wilson, Reagan) it’s covered up as best as can be. MAGA like to think the only President ever to have medical or physical issues was Biden. And Trump is as healthy as a 25 yr old marathon runner

Same with Trump.
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I have no problem with the assertion Trump lies, even by Washington standards. That does not excuse the Democrats when they lie.
 
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