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Free abortions in Israel

sedan

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Free birth control, too:

Israel will pay for abortions for women between the age of 20 and 33 in 2014, Ha’aretz reports, and health officials announced Monday they hope to expand eligibility to all women in the future.

The funding was approved as part of the 2014 list of state-subsidized medical items, and expands coverage for women who were previously eligible for state-funded abortions only in the case of a medical emergency or sexual abuse. Women under 20 and over 40 are already eligible for state-funded abortions regardless of circumstance.

The new rule will allow for 6,300 more women to have abortions next year. The director of the committee that determines the list of subsidized items said at a press conference that Israel intends to expand state-funded abortions to all women, and make contraceptive pills universally available too.

Abortion in Israel: State Expands Eligibility for Subsidized Abortions | TIME.com

What's a hard right winger to do?

Support Israel at all costs, no matter what?
 
Well, well, well. This ought to help them gain support from the American left for Israel.
 
What's a hard right winger to do?

Support Israel at all costs, no matter what?


I support Israel because they are the most liberal culture in the region, myself.


You think it is a sign of liberalism to support those with 7th century values who are hell bent on genocide, instead?
 
The America of the Middle East.
 
Well, well, well. This ought to help them gain support from the American left for Israel.

I suspect that it might garner more than a fair amount of support from the radical Islamists perched across their borders as well. Fewer Jewish Israeli children, while Palestinians and Israeli Arabs continue to reproduce at record rates?

Why, praise be to Allah, it's a Jihadi dream come true! :lol:
 
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Indeed. For any of those who wish to see Israel burned or Jews killed enmasse, they can take heart, due to a combination of stupidity and barbarism, the Israelites are now forcing Jews at gunpoint to commit the mass homicide of undesirable Jews. The Nazis could hardly design a "better" system.
 
i saw no reference to this in the OP's cite
please share your source with us
 
i saw no reference to this in the OP's cite
please share your source with us

Read English better or get better glasses, then.

Barbarism like this puts all that innocent blood on the hands of the voters who tolerate it. Simply despicable.
 


There is nothing wrong with some population control Jay.
 
Read English better or get better glasses, then.

Barbarism like this puts all that innocent blood on the hands of the voters who tolerate it. Simply despicable.

here is what i read
... the Israelites are now forcing Jews at gunpoint to commit the mass homicide of undesirable Jews ...
until someone offers documentation showing that allegation to be correct i can only conclude it is more over the top bull ****
 
You might want to consider the example set by Lebanon in this regard. Demographic shift tends to be something of a bitch for formerly dominant ethnic groups in the process of having their position usurped.

I will look at what he said
 
here is what i read
until someone offers documentation showing that allegation to be correct i can only conclude it is more over the top bull ****

It's just his normal, baseless hysteria.

Nowhere did the info say there were additional incentives....it was still choice.
 
here is what i read
until someone offers documentation showing that allegation to be correct i can only conclude it is more over the top bull ****

"Israel will pay"
"state-funded abortions"

Forcing the taxpayer at gunpoint to be accomplice to the mass culling of social undesirables.

QED
 
I support Israel, just as I support my own country. I support all democracies that promote freedom. Do I like every law, or regulation? No, but it is Israels choice to do and if the people support it, let it be.
 
I support Israel, just as I support my own country. I support all democracies that promote freedom. Do I like every law, or regulation? No, but it is Israels choice to do and if the people support it, let it be.

If you can respect their right to do so, why not respect the right of Americans to do so, and let it be?
 

Medical care that is free and paid for? good thats awesome especially when it comes to abortion and BC.

Its still not enough though they need a system closer to ours but with their medical coverage. THier laws are still not down the middle enough abandoning the human rights of women to much, needs better balance.

ALso for some back ground on the abortion laws there

1977 penal code

Clauses 312-321 of the 1977 penal code limit the circumstances when an abortion is legal in Israel. Abortions can only be performed in Israel by licensed gynecologists in recognized medical facilities that are specifically and publicly recognized as a provider of abortions.Abortions must be approved by the termination committee.

Circumstances under which abortion is legal
A termination committee approves abortions, under sub-section 316a, in the following circumstances:

The woman is younger than seventeen (the legal marriage age in Israel) or older than forty.

The pregnancy was conceived under illegal circumstances (rape, statutory rape etc.), in an incestuous relationship, or outside of marriage.

The fetus may have a physical or mental birth defect.

Continued pregnancy may put the woman's life in risk, or damage her physically or mentally.

In cases where the woman is granted an abortion due to the baby being conceived under illegal circumstances or incest, the fetus has a serious physical or mental defect, or the mother's health is in danger, the state pays for the abortion. In all other cases, the abortion is carried out at the woman's expense.

Women who get pregnant while doing their military service are entitled to free, state-financed abortion.

There are 41 termination committees operating in public or private hospitals across Israel.

These committees consist of a physician whose field of expertise is obstetrics or gynecology, another physician who is either a family doctor, psychiatrist, internist or gynecologist, and a social worker. At least one member must be a woman.

Six separate committees consider abortion requests when the fetus is beyond 24 weeks old.

In practice, most requests for abortion are granted, and leniency is shown especially under the clause for emotional or psychological damage to the pregnant woman. In addition, about half of all abortions are performed illegally in private doctors' clinics without approval from a committee. Though women who get an illegal abortion face no criminal penalties, physicians who perform them can face a fine or up to five years' imprisonment, but there have been no known prosecutions of doctors for performing illegal abortions.[3] About 40,000 abortions take place in Israel every year, about half of them legal.

Structure of the committee
The termination committee consists of three members, at least one of which is a woman. Of the three members, two must be licenced physicians, one an expert on obstetrics and gynaecology, and the other one either OB/GYN, internal medicine, psychiatry, family medicine or public health. The third member of the committee must be a social worker.

so while i like the fiance side of it, its still to lopsided and ignoring and violating the human rights of the woman (which like the ZEF will factually always be violated) just needs some better balance.
 

thats some awesome fantasy you wrote there, I love when posts try to sell factual lies and nobody buys it and the post just gets made fun of and esposed.
 

Godwins Law presented and only in the 6th post. Must be a record.
 
If you can respect their right to do so, why not respect the right of Americans to do so, and let it be?

I do respect the right of Americans to do so. I do not try to stop someone from having an abortion. I express my views, sure. I also would support a law banning abortion, yes. I do not force my will on the people as much as people like to argue otherwise. My dislike is not forcing the will on anyone. Abortion will remain legal, as long as a majority tolerate it. Does not mean I have to like it, or agree with it.
 

even that probably wont change it since by legality it currently a rights issue and many rights would have to change to ban it. To achieve a banning precedent make it so we would have to strip women of many rights and make her a second class citizen.

But you are right you definitely dont have to like it or agree with it, theres many things many americans dont.
 
Godwins Law presented and only in the 6th post. Must be a record.

There honestly needs to be a corollary for every time Israel pisses on human rights and is responsible for mass killings of innocents. The irony and awfulness of that begs the comparison.
 
There honestly needs to be a corollary for every time Israel pisses on human rights and is responsible for mass killings of innocents. The irony and awfulness of that begs the comparison.

another fantasy and hypocritical posting that can be supported by facts.
 
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