, the day Paul was berated by a burning bush.
Oh I know about Luther and the Protestant Reformation but Christianity was far from unified before. Far from it. It's too big a subject to be a sidebar in this thread, but the Catholic Church was in a constant state of dealing with schism and heresy since, yes, the day Paul was berated by a burning bush. A good part of the Epistles is Paul trying to be a unifying force and every Pope since has scrambled to do the same.
Oh I know about Luther and the Protestant Reformation but Christianity was far from unified before. Far from it. It's too big a subject to be a sidebar in this thread, but the Catholic Church was in a constant state of dealing with schism and heresy since, yes, the day Paul was berated by a burning bush. A good part of the Epistles is Paul trying to be a unifying force and every Pope since has scrambled to do the same.
Without Protestants the division was less vast. Once the 2 split...the world became a VERY different place. Especially for nations. You can't compare the unity of the Christians prior to Protestants to post split.
So... You've got nothing. You acted all knowledgeable, but it turns out you can't even tell Moses from Paul. Paul never encountered a burning bush. That's just the first of a number of blunders with your post.
It never ceases to amaze me how people who obviously know very little about a topic can somehow feel qualified to have very strong opinions on it.
The fact it was Moses who encountered a burning bush and not Paul is a Sunday school level of understanding. This is the kind of information Church going prepubescent children could tell you. You've brought less than a Sunday school level of understanding to the discussion. Congratulations.
that is complete baloneyHe does. Official Catholic teachings regarding protestants has changed in recent decades to where protestants are acknowledged as Christians, they dont belong to real churches. Rather, real churches include only the Catholic church and the various Orthodox churches.
Holy Moses! That's it? I confuse one episode of divine revelation with another nearly identical one and that nullifies everything I've said?
Alright, I'll take your word for it when it comes to Sunday-school level understanding. I guess that proves that the Catholic Church was a unified, homogeneous institution right up until Luther nailed that bear's paw to the church door. (Did I get that part right?)
It illustrates the level of knowledge you bring to the table. There's a lot more wrong with your post than that. Basically none of what you said is actually true. But proving the rest of it would take more effort than merely putting the level of knowledge you are bringing to the table on display for everyone to see and leaving it at that.
If people still want to give credence to your claims despite your proven lack of knowledge on the topic is up to them.
You bailed on the discussion, latched onto a simple mistake and rode it for all it was worth- well, actually, tried to milk out more than it was worth. Didn't address what I said about the Catholic Church and schisms and heresies because you'd be 'way over your head- that simple mistake was like a life ring found by accident. Cling to it, grip it tight. If you had more words available to you, you'd be able to work the topic but since you don't you won't.
that is complete baloney
a Christian isn't less of a Christian due to the church they attend
that is right winged evangelical BS
It is not right wing evangelical BS. Rather, it is based on a 2,000 year old concept of apostolic lineage and who has, or does not have it. Then add a "chicken or the egg" argument regarding whether the Orthodox churches left Rome, or Rome left the Orthodox churches.
actually that means you have even more to apologize for
Nope. One apologizes if one is repentant, I am not. I see 'gay' for what it is. Abnormal. I'll make no apology for that.
you should be repentant for your behavior based on those views, that is my point. You have much to apologize for, whether you realize it or not
you should be repentant for your behavior based on those views, that is my point. You have much to apologize for, whether you realize it or not
Francis: Christians must apologize to gay people for marginalizing them | National Catholic Reporter
Being that I am not Catholic, I don't tend to pay that much attention to the Pope when he tried to tell me how I should act and what I should do, as this particular Pope tends to do, a lot. However, when he tells his own church members what to do and how to act, I do pay attention because they make up the largest Christian church in the world.
In this instance, he's talking about actions that all Christians should take, but he does so through his own church members. Nonetheless, when he says "Who are we to judge them?" I go back to my understanding of the New Testament and what Jesus taught us, and I have to agree with him completely. As for the Catholic Church apologizing to gays, women, children, and the poor, well, that's something I don't feel comfortable opining about since, again, I'm not Catholic.
As for me, as a Christian, I apologized a long time ago, when I realized that the opinions I grew up being taught, were hateful and just plain wrong. I've grown and learned - it appears that the Catholic Church via this Pope, is growing and learning as well (at least on the subject of gays).
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