Fox's obsession with the War on Terrror

[robin]

I just watched Fox News. They go on and on about 'The War on Terror'.
To my knowledge no Americans have died in terrorist acts in the states since 911. Yet in the 60 months since 911, around 3,000 Americans have died every month in road accidents and around 3,000 a month have died from shootings and 3,000 Americans have died in the War on Terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911.
That's a grand total of around 360,000 dead Americans.
Whilst I'm not against better intelligence & homeland security, surely America would save more lives if it focussed better on what really kills Americans, namely guns and cars, rather than the bungling attempts to fight terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911 and Fox News's obsessive focussing on terror ?

 

[Francaisforever]

I just watched Fox News. They go on and on about 'The War on Terror'.
To my knowledge no Americans have died in terrorist acts in the states since 911. Yet in the 60 months since 911, around 3,000 Americans have died every month in road accidents and around 3,000 a month have died from shootings and 3,000 Americans have died in the War on Terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911.
That's a grand total of around 360,000 dead Americans.
Whilst I'm not against better intelligence & homeland security, surely America would save more lives if it focussed better on what really kills Americans, namely guns and cars, rather than the bungling attempts to fight terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911 and Fox News's obsessive focussing on terror ?

The Fox news channel is the mouth piece of the Bush administration. Haven't you noticed how many high ranked in the administration are giving one on one interviews there? Even the new press secretary of the white House, Tony Snow, was working before for Fox news.....what a riot. The wild bunch to stay in power needs to have America freaking out and sign them a blank check when it is election's time. People dying in car crashes is not what's going to cut it when Bush's term is up, it is as simple as that, Fox News will make sur that you are scared shitless!

 

[jfuh]

I just watched Fox News. They go on and on about 'The War on Terror'.
To my knowledge no Americans have died in terrorist acts in the states since 911. Yet in the 60 months since 911, around 3,000 Americans have died every month in road accidents and around 3,000 a month have died from shootings and 3,000 Americans have died in the War on Terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911.
That's a grand total of around 360,000 dead Americans.
Whilst I'm not against better intelligence & homeland security, surely America would save more lives if it focussed better on what really kills Americans, namely guns and cars, rather than the bungling attempts to fight terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911 and Fox News's obsessive focussing on terror ?

Because that's all Faux news has to report on. I mean seriously, they've got freaking Geraldo working for them. The network is just a miserable excuse for a news network bouyed by the neoconservatives and the GOP. The ultimate apologetics for the white house. Tony Snow worked at Fox and now works in the White house, coincidence?
Faux news is the propagandist front for the White house, nothing more. And all they have is the war on terror to terrorize the American ppl in hopes that we'd follow blindly like sheep.
Sorry but we're not going to go ba ba bah for you Mr. Bush.

 

[MarineCorpsCandidate]

I sometimes wonder if Fox News is akin to the "Ministry of Truth" in 1984. But then again, their might be a similar US government agency that would be analogous to the "Ministry of Truth."

 

[Indy]

I like watching it 'cause it makes me laugh. There's no beter way to fall asleep then to here Bill o'Reilly call democrats morons and traitors for an hour. Good times :2razz:

 

[Mr.Clover]

The only thing I have against this post is this:

Whilst I'm not against better intelligence & homeland security, surely America would save more lives if it focussed better on what really kills Americans, namely guns and cars, rather than the bungling attempts to fight terror in a country that had nothing to do with 911 and Fox News's obsessive focussing on terror ?

Guns and Cars are inanimate objects. It the same as sayin' rubber balls kill people. You say that America should focus better on what kills americans yet you don't seem to understand that Americans kill Americans. Thats why we have a judicial system, to seperate those that are bad from those that live freely under the law.

 

[Harshaw]

US soil was attacked only once, at the start of WWII, at several hundred thousand Americans died defeating a set of European nations which had nothing to do with that attack.

 

[robin]

US soil was attacked only once, at the start of WWII, at several hundred thousand Americans died defeating a set of European nations which had nothing to do with that attack.

Oh I see. The fact that Mr Hitler declared war on you first had nothing to do with it then ? :lol:
Who didn't listen in their history lessons then ? :roll:

 

[Billo_Really]

Anyone watch those pro-Bush bitches, "The Beltway Boys?"

 

[robin]

You're more likely to be killed by lightning than by a terrorist, and millions times more likely to be killed by flu if there's another outbreak as per the 1918 influenza pandemic which caused a bigger death toll than WW1.
Needless to say, $millions get spent on flu research but $billions on a war on terror in the wrong country trying to defeat something far less likely to kill you than flu. Unless of course your one of Bush's cannon fodder in Iraq or Afganistan.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Oh I see. The fact that Mr Hitler declared war on you first had nothing to do with it then ? :lol:
Who didn't listen in their history lessons then ? :roll:

And Italy declared war on the U.S when?

 

[Harshaw]

Oh I see. The fact that Mr Hitler declared war on you first had nothing to do with it then ? :lol:

Actually, not really. Declaration of war by Germany or no, Roosevelt was committed to engaging in Europe.

Besides, a number of countries have declared war on us that we haven't invaded. Syria, for example, has done so a couple of times.

Do we have your permission to invade?

Who didn't listen in their history lessons then ? :roll:

Those who can't see the threat of Islamofascism, I'd say.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

MarineCorpsCandidate,

But then again, their might be a similar US government agency that would be analogous to the "Ministry of Truth."

You mean like PBS? I watch FOX all the time. Not all those guys are conservative.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

US soil was attacked only once, at the start of WWII...

and by Pancho Villa and the War of 1812 and...

... at several hundred thousand Americans died defeating a set of European nations which had nothing to do with that attack.

There's a very long list of things these same European nations had nothing to do with. What of it?

Are you trying to say that you more of an expert than the US Intel Community and that Hussein and aQ had a mutual protection pact like Hirohito and Hitler or something? Cause the USIC says no operational nor collaborative relationship between Hussein and aQ. Which is markedly different from the relationship between Nazi era Germany and Japan. So markedly different in fact that it makes your analogy more or less entirely silly and insulting to the intelligence of the folks you're addressing.

 

[Harshaw]

and by Pancho Villa and the War of 1812 and...

Only attacked once during WWII. I thought the context (if not the express words) was plain enough.

Are you trying to say that you more of an expert than the US Intel Community and that Hussein and aQ had a mutual protection pact like Hirohito and Hitler or something? Cause the USIC says no operational nor collaborative relationship between Hussein and aQ. Which is markedly different from the relationship between Nazi era Germany and Japan. So markedly different in fact that it makes your analogy more or less entirely silly and insulting to the intelligence of the folks you're addressing.

This is rather obtuse and beside the point, given the context of my statement, isn't it? Not to mention that when the GWOT was defined in Congress on 9/20/01, it wasn't only about al Qaeda. As much as critics try to narrow it into this definition, it isn't and never was the War on The People Who Hit Us On 9/11 And ONLY Those People.

Hitler and Hirohito having a mutual defense pact doesn't mean that if Japan hits us, we have to hit Germany -- and Italy -- does it? But we did.

We also invaded several countries which were not Japan, Italy, and Germany which ostensibly had no hostilities with us nor alliances with or occupations by them.

I suppose we shouldn't have done that, right?

 

[Navy Pride]

Because that's all Faux news has to report on. I mean seriously, they've got freaking Geraldo working for them. The network is just a miserable excuse for a news network bouyed by the neoconservatives and the GOP. The ultimate apologetics for the white house. Tony Snow worked at Fox and now works in the White house, coincidence?
Faux news is the propagandist front for the White house, nothing more. And all they have is the war on terror to terrorize the American ppl in hopes that we'd follow blindly like sheep.
Sorry but we're not going to go ba ba bah for you Mr. Bush.

I wonder why their shows are killing MSNBC and CNN in the ratings? All one can surmise is there must be a lot of moderate and conservative people out there who want to get both sides of the issue when it comes to the war on terror.......

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

I wonder why their shows are killing MSNBC and CNN in the ratings? All one can surmise is there must be a lot of moderate and conservative people out there who want to get both sides of the issue when it comes to the war on terror.......

Not to say that it's BETTER or anything...

 

[ProudAmerican]

Oh I see. The fact that Mr Hitler declared war on you first had nothing to do with it then ? :lol:
Who didn't listen in their history lessons then ? :roll:

Islamofacists have declared war on us as well. But unfortunately even after the attacks we have endured some people just dont get it.

 

[robin]

Actually, not really. Declaration of war by Germany or no, Roosevelt was committed to engaging in Europe.

Oh so your President is your country then is he ?
Lease lend is not a commitment to war. Two years of war & you still didn't enter it until the Japs & Hitler declared war on you. That's hardly rushing to war soley for the benefit of Europe as you claim is it, is it ?
Each country fought to save itself.
Any symbiosis was purely incidental.

Those who can't see the threat of Islamofascism, I'd say.

Irrelevant garbage & supposition on your part. For sure the threat is not & never was from Iraq. What a waste of a trillion bucks. There must be cheaper ways to start a civil war.

 

[Harshaw]

Oh so your President is your country then is he ?

The President sets the foreign policy direction for the country, yes, indeed. As do the chief executives of pretty much every country.

Lease lend is not a commitment to war. Two years of war & you still didn't enter it until the Japs & Hitler declared war on you.

And that has what to do with anything I said?

That's hardly rushing to war soley for the benefit of Europe as you claim is it, is it ?

I never claimed that. You really need to read more carefully.

Each country fought to save itself.
Any symbiosis was purely incidental.

As with above, this has what to do with anything I said?

(And by the way, was the "symbiosis" between Germany and Japan "purely coincidental"? If so, then my point is only strengthened.)

Irrelevant garbage & supposition on your part. For sure the threat is not & never was from Iraq. What a waste of a trillion bucks. There must be cheaper ways to start a civil war.

I see that you're open to reasoned debate on this. :doh

 

[ProudAmerican]

Irrelevant garbage & supposition on your part. For sure the threat is not & never was from Iraq. What a waste of a trillion bucks. There must be cheaper ways to start a civil war.

nothing more than an opinion.

what would you have said about the threat of Al Queda on 9-10? I imagine you would have said "they arent a threat and never will be"

its unfortunate that people must first die in order to prove an enemy is a threat in the minds of some.

I prefer to act BEFORE Americans die. call me crazy.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by ProudAmerican:
what would you have said about the threat of Al Queda on 9-10? I imagine you would have said "they arent a threat and never will be"

It would be more like, "You interrupted my vacation for THIS!"

 

[robin]

nothing more than an opinion.
what would you have said about the threat of Al Queda on 9-10? I imagine you would have said "they arent a threat and never will be"

Not I. That's more likely to be your government's opinion, since Bin Laden was your old ally supplied by the CIA in the war on Communism in Afganistan. Or at least I pressume the people responsible for arming him with stingers etc thought that. But hey so many wallets get greased when those things go on. Kick backs to politicians and CIA officers from arms dealers etc, no doubt many knew Bin Laden could be a future threat but just turned a blind eye and did the deals anyway. Grab the money and run. I love how naive some of you people are here. Keep it going PA. Your politicians love jingo sheep like you. They can mould you to be anything what they want via Fox News etc.
Raytheon make stingers and donate to politicians
http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/updates/081203.html
They've got armies of professional lobbyists that lobby in the pentagon etc for war.

its unfortunate that people must first die in order to prove an enemy is a threat in the minds of some.I prefer to act BEFORE Americans die. call me crazy.

Yes I'll call you crazy. The action in Iraq that you give your support to has ensured Americans die. The war in Iraq death toll now heading towards another 911 and Iraq had nothing to do with 911. All that's been proved by those Americans that unfortunately have been killed, is how easy it is to open a pandoras box of hatred between religious sectors by overthrowing a regime. Every time an American gets killed there it's not a sign that these killers were ever going to come to the states to kill you in an act of terrorism. They are killing you simply because you are there on their turf. So a pretty dumb policy going there wasn't it. You've saved them the plane fair of coming to you. Except they never would have come to you to kill you anyway.

 

[jfuh]

I wonder why their shows are killing MSNBC and CNN in the ratings? All one can surmise is there must be a lot of moderate and conservative people out there who want to get both sides of the issue when it comes to the war on terror.......

Screaming at guests, kicking around, yelling, and slander. Yes, that raises ratings. As does fortelling of the apocolypse and so on.
Ppl like to watch violence, Faux provides plenty.

 

[Navy Pride]

Screaming at guests, kicking around, yelling, and slander. Yes, that raises ratings. As does fortelling of the apocolypse and so on.
Ppl like to watch violence, Faux provides plenty.

Yeah and it has nothing to do with telling both sides of thes story instead of one......Telling the good things that are taking place in Iraq instead of constantly focusing on the negative.........

A lot of you liberals bitch about FOX but truth be told you are watching it too....