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Fox stays silent about new texts that expose Hannity and Ingraham's Jan. 6 hypocrisy

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Fox stays silent about new texts that expose Hannity and Ingraham's Jan. 6 hypocrisy

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12/14/21
Fox News did not bother to air Monday night's meeting of the House committee investigating the 1/6 attack. Neither did Newsmax or One America News. So right-wing TV audiences did not hear when Rep. Liz Cheney revealed that some of Fox's biggest stars pressed Mark Meadows for help during the siege of the Capitol. "Mark, the president needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home," Laura Ingraham texted Meadows. "This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy." She knew. They all knew. They all knew the truth right away. But by the night of 1/6, Ingraham was spouting conspiracy theories about "ANTIFA" and excusing the peaceful "patriots" who, let's be clear, paraded into DC based on a lie she pushed over and over again. Fox's pro-Trump programming was partly to blame for the Big Lie, so when that lie led to violence, of course some of the hosts panicked and tried to put out the fire.

On Monday, Cheney read two other texts from Fox stars to Meadows from 1/6. One was from Brian Kilmeade: "Please, get him on TV. Destroying everything you have accomplished." The other was from Sean Hannity: "Can he make a statement, ask people to leave the Capitol?" Cheney didn't specify what time those texts were sent. But I was struck by Hannity's casual tone about the unfolding terror. At least Kilmeade said "please, get him on TV." "These texts prove something essential," Amanda Carpenter wrote for The Bulwark. "No matter what they say now, Trump's loyalists knew at the time that what was happening at the Capitol was not a peaceful protest. They knew that it was a dangerous attack on American democracy. And they knew that Trump was responsible for it. That's why they sent the texts pleading with him, through his staff, to make it stop." Or as SE Cupp put it on CNN just now, "Fox News viewers, you have been had."


FOX didin't dare air the 1/6 House Committee hearing yesterday evening recomending criminal contempt charges on Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows for ignoring a House subpeona.

Rep. Liz Cheney (R/WY) read text messages that were sent to Meadows on January 6 by various FOX television personalities. They are begging Trump to stop the violence. They know the Capitol rioters are there at the bidding of Trump.

Yet that very evening and night, they dishonestly switch gears on television and try to pawn off the Capitol violence as an Antifa riot. They knew. They were and remain neck deep in propagating Trump's Big Lie.
 
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It was a bit crazy to hear that Don Jr., Hannity, and Laura, were all clamoring for Donald Trump to call off the Trump rioters.
I watched it live and we were shocked that he didn't intervene immediately...as we saw someone being wheeled out on a stretcher with people trying to do CPR on her.

But Republicans have no standards other than "bad liberals, tax cuts for rich/corportions, anti-abortion", they just circle the wagons and act like it's all OK. Except Liz apparently, a lone voice in the wilderness.
 
I mean, Fox news is literally paid propaganda. It's been painfully obviously for a long time Tucker Carlson only aesthetically supports left wing populist economic policies by the fact that he attacks the only people who might implement them. He not a "man of the people" and never had been.

That's the thing about Fox news. The people that work there are smart. Tucker, Hannity, Ingraham...they all know what the real facts are. They all got vaccinated. They all know Trump lost. They know the Hunter laptop stuff is baseless. They know how many people died from COVID. They know masks work. They know.

That's why I blame them infinitely more than the people that buy the messaging that was designed to deceive them.
 
Fox News has always been the Albert Einstein of: Look! Something shiny over there...look away! I'm still pissed off that they actually went to court to make sure that they could lie. No honest, truthful person/people would ever do that. It would be beneath them. They cry phony tears because their Christmas tree burned down, while they burn down our society, integrity, democracy, and truths...or whatever you want to call it.
 
Fox, in capitalizing on hatred and stupidity, is harming America by inflaming bitter polarization and dysfunction.

Fox is essentially taking a solid future for America, and trading it away for profit. One story at a time.
 
I've seen titles about this all over the forum and read a little bit but this all seems to revolve around several people reaching out to Meadows to see if he can get Trump to put out a statement telling everyone at the Capitol to stop. The threads then seem to claim that these messages are outright proof of a conspiracy by Trump to take over the government and that all these people messaging Meadows are co-conspirators. One person has gone on to suggest that this is all sufficient proof of treason and that Trump should be killed.

I'm not getting that. Maybe I just haven't read the smoking gun email but what I've seen appears to be the opposite of cheering on an insurrection that everyone knew about in advance. Then again, this is Trump we're talking about so all the "opposite rules" are in effect.

The same goes for the messages about Meadows talking about bringing in the National Guard a day ahead of time to "protect the protesters". Well, if the National Guard was there ahead of time they could have protected the Capitol too so who told them not to show up?
 
He wasn't destroying his legacy, IMO. Chaotic attempts at self serving sabotage with the goal of marching towards autocracy is his legacy. He was actually building his legacy when you look at it that way. His legacy is a steaming pile of destructive suck, though.
 
Fox stays silent about new texts that expose Hannity and Ingraham's Jan. 6 hypocrisy

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FOX didin't dare air the 1/6 House Committee hearing yesterday evening recomending criminal contempt charges on Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows for ignoring a House subpeona.

Rep. Liz Cheney (R/WY) read text messages that were sent to Meadows on January 6 by various FOX television personalities. They are begging Trump to stop the violence. They know the Capitol rioters are there at the bidding of Trump.

Yet that very evening and night, they dishonestly switch gears on television and try to pawn off the Capitol violence as an Antifa riot. They knew. They were and remain neck deep in propagating Trump's Big Lie.
Good for Cheney, reading that stuff into the record.
 
“Trump's loyalists knew at the time that what was happening at the Capitol was not a peaceful protest”
Ummmm yea so did anyone with a TV and functioning brain. I’m not sure what point is meant to be made from that, but this is a dreadfully horrible look for Fox News.
 
No guidance from Fox? Expect a mashup of talking points while MAGAts try to cypher out what this means and what they think about it.
 
I've seen titles about this all over the forum and read a little bit but this all seems to revolve around several people reaching out to Meadows to see if he can get Trump to put out a statement telling everyone at the Capitol to stop. The threads then seem to claim that these messages are outright proof of a conspiracy by Trump to take over the government and that all these people messaging Meadows are co-conspirators. One person has gone on to suggest that this is all sufficient proof of treason and that Trump should be killed.
Why not focus on this thread, rather than these other alleged off-topic threads?
I'm not getting that. Maybe I just haven't read the smoking gun email but what I've seen appears to be the opposite of cheering on an insurrection that everyone knew about in advance. Then again, this is Trump we're talking about so all the "opposite rules" are in effect.
The same goes for the messages about Meadows talking about bringing in the National Guard a day ahead of time to "protect the protesters". Well, if the National Guard was there ahead of time they could have protected the Capitol too so who told them not to show up?
I agree, you're not getting the OP.
Even Fox news and Don Jr. were noting how harmful this is to Trump...reading between the lines here, they knew the rioters were connected to Trump, and that if anyone could stop this it was of course, Trump himself. Because he wasn't putting a stop to it, it looked bad to them. Reasonable.
And Trump chose not to put a stop to it, despite it being obvious he should to any reasonable person, and even to his most devoted propagandists from Fox.
As expected, afterwards, they defended Trump vigorously and spun it as not a big deal, antifa/blm, etc.
 
I've seen titles about this all over the forum and read a little bit but this all seems to revolve around several people reaching out to Meadows to see if he can get Trump to put out a statement telling everyone at the Capitol to stop. The threads then seem to claim that these messages are outright proof of a conspiracy by Trump to take over the government and that all these people messaging Meadows are co-conspirators. One person has gone on to suggest that this is all sufficient proof of treason and that Trump should be killed.

I'm not getting that. Maybe I just haven't read the smoking gun email but what I've seen appears to be the opposite of cheering on an insurrection that everyone knew about in advance. Then again, this is Trump we're talking about so all the "opposite rules" are in effect.

The same goes for the messages about Meadows talking about bringing in the National Guard a day ahead of time to "protect the protesters". Well, if the National Guard was there ahead of time they could have protected the Capitol too so who told them not to show up?

I'm pretty sure that if Meadows thought the emails he gave to the committee were so damning, he wouldn't have done it.
I'm betting Meadows isn't surprised that his emails got leaked to the press either. In fact, he probably knew they would. I see the emails as a nothingburger but you watch, by the end of the day, the left will have blown this up just like they blew up Russiagate. ;)

I don't see this as a big there is there.. In fact, the emails prove otherwise. Nobody in Trump's camp wanted the protests to get out of control. In other words, there certainly was no collusion with Trump's people and the rioters. Isn't that what the commission is trying to prove?

I'd also love to know who told the National Guard not to come to the protests.
 
I don't see this as a big there is there.. In fact, the emails prove otherwise. Nobody in Trump's camp wanted the protests to get out of control. In other words, there certainly was no collusion with Trump's people and the rioters. Isn't that what the commission is trying to prove?
If the emails prove that nobody in Trump's camp wanted the protests to get out of control what do you suppose Trump ignoring those emails says about what he wanted?
 
Why not focus on this thread, rather than these other alleged off-topic threads?

I agree, you're not getting the OP.
Even Fox news and Don Jr. were noting how harmful this is to Trump...reading between the lines here, they knew the rioters were connected to Trump, and that if anyone could stop this it was of course, Trump himself. Because he wasn't putting a stop to it, it looked bad to them. Reasonable.
And Trump chose not to put a stop to it, despite it being obvious he should to any reasonable person, and even to his most devoted propagandists from Fox.
As expected, afterwards, they defended Trump vigorously and spun it as not a big deal, antifa/blm, etc.
"Read between the lines"?

Everybody knew that there was going to be a protest. What they didn't know was that the protest was going to get violent. Once it did get violent they really didn't know who was instigating the violence. Furthermore, crashing the gates at the Capitol was rather mild violence compared to what we all saw over the summer. Trump DID come out and tell everyone to go home. That took longer than most people liked but he did it.

All that said, NOTHING about this indicates that Trump, Meadows, Hannity or anyone else associated with Trump assisted in coordinating the attack, instigated the attack or advocated for the attack once it started.
 
If the emails prove that nobody in Trump's camp wanted the protests to get out of control what do you suppose Trump ignoring those emails says about what he wanted?
I see no proof that Trump ignored the Meadow emails. Trump told the protesters, "You have to go home now. We have to have peace."

I believe the purpose of Meadows releasing the emails to the committee was to prove that no one from the Trump team, including Trump, planned the capitol riots. They were just as appalled by the violence as the rest of us.
 
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Is it even legal for the text messages from the likes of Hannity; Ingrahm; etc. to be publicly read? They aren't under investigation.
 
Is it even legal for the text messages from the likes of Hannity; Ingrahm; etc. to be publicly read? They aren't under investigation.
If this was done in court there would be problems but, since it's a political matter made for public consumption, there are no rules.
 
"Read between the lines"?
Once it did get violent they really didn't know who was instigating the violence.
Nonsense, the capitol police knew exacatly who was instigating voilence, it was Trump rioters instigating violence, we have hours of footage to corroborate.

Furthermore, crashing the gates at the Capitol was rather mild violence compared to what we all saw over the summer. Trump DID come out and tell everyone to go home. That took longer than most people liked but he did it.
The Trump supporters were violently attacking the police, trying to minimize that with a whataboutism is absurd.
All that said, NOTHING about this indicates that Trump, Meadows, Hannity or anyone else associated with Trump assisted in coordinating the attack, instigated the attack or advocated for the attack once it started.
Who claimed it did in this thread?
 
If this was done in court there would be problems but, since it's a political matter made for public consumption, there are no rules.
Invasion of privacy? I can see reading the responses of Meadows, but I don't see how disclosing what any other person communicated to Meadows should be allowed without a court order.
 
Is it even legal for the text messages from the likes of Hannity; Ingrahm; etc. to be publicly read? They aren't under investigation.
What law is being broken?
It's a legislative branch of government doing the business of Congress.
(2) To examine and evaluate evidence developed by relevant Federal, State, and local governmental agencies regarding the facts and circumstances surrounding the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol and targeted violence and domestic terrorism relevant to such terrorist attack.
Congress doesn't get its powers from the judiciary.
 
I've seen titles about this all over the forum and read a little bit but this all seems to revolve around several people reaching out to Meadows to see if he can get Trump to put out a statement telling everyone at the Capitol to stop. The threads then seem to claim that these messages are outright proof of a conspiracy by Trump to take over the government and that all these people messaging Meadows are co-conspirators. One person has gone on to suggest that this is all sufficient proof of treason and that Trump should be killed.

I'm not getting that. Maybe I just haven't read the smoking gun email but what I've seen appears to be the opposite of cheering on an insurrection that everyone knew about in advance. Then again, this is Trump we're talking about so all the "opposite rules" are in effect.

The same goes for the messages about Meadows talking about bringing in the National Guard a day ahead of time to "protect the protesters". Well, if the National Guard was there ahead of time they could have protected the Capitol too so who told them not to show up?
Who in this thread said anything remotely like: "see, this is proof of Trump's conspiracy....." ?
 
What law is being broken?

Amendment IV​

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 
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