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Fox Soils Itself over Oprah Comments

calamity said:
Fox's aging angry white males are all up in arms because Oprah mentioned that the racists are dying out.
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Please list the names of the angry white males and list the number of minorities on the CBS evening news.
 
BmanMcfly said:
You forgot; she's not Wanting to see old black or hispanic or chinese people dying, she equates old and white with racists...

What counts as "old racists"?? Look at her previous comments; it's anyone opposing Obama. So, you are 20 years old, white and oppose Obama, well, in oprahs mind, you should just die.

Since when is it acceptable to suggest that entire groups should just die??

Is this acceptable because it's a call for the death of white people?? Would it be acceptable if she singled out blacks? Jews? Hispanics? Any other group?
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“There are still generations of people, older people, who are born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die,”
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If you read this statement with a un-biase eye, you can see what she is saying. There is still a generation of older people who will not change their view of blacks because their ways are set in stone. This puddle of racism will eventually go away with them. Until then, this level of racism will exist.


AGAIN WHAT IS RACIST AND NOT TRUE ABOUT THIS STATEMENT ???????


Just like someone saying that there are still some Germans that are still living who have a deep hate for Jews because they bred with it during Nazi Germany. That level of hate will not go away until they die.
 
They know what she is saying. But if they repeat the lie often enough, they will believe...
rcart76 said:
If you read this statement with a un-biase eye, you can see what she is saying. There is still a generation of older people who will not change their view of blacks because their ways are set in stone. This puddle of racism will eventually go away with them. Until then, this level of racism will exist.


AGAIN WHAT IS RACIST AND NOT TRUE ABOUT THIS STATEMENT ???????


Just like someone saying that there are still some Germans that are still living who have a deep hate for Jews because they bred with it during Nazi Germany. That level of hate will not go away until they die.
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rcart76 said:
If you read this statement with a un-biase eye, you can see what she is saying. There is still a generation of older people who will not change their view of blacks because their ways are set in stone. This puddle of racism will eventually go away with them. Until then, this level of racism will exist.


AGAIN WHAT IS RACIST AND NOT TRUE ABOUT THIS STATEMENT ???????


Just like someone saying that there are still some Germans that are still living who have a deep hate for Jews because they bred with it during Nazi Germany. That level of hate will not go away until they die.
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If you are using that select quote in isolation from the other comments she's recently made; then it's only ignorant, neglecting that attitudes can also be taught to further generations.

That's not all she has talked about recently... I am shocked to the extent that people just let Oprah have a pass. Especially with Oprah, who has been so "oppressed" that she's been held back from creating a billion dollar enterprise... Oh wait.

Her exposure to racism is having a clerk not hand over a 10k purse without consulting a manager., give me a break...

Now when you consider that she equated previously, within the week, that the ONLY opposition to Obama comes from white racists, then you get a feel for what the purpose of these statements really are.
 
BmanMcfly said:
If you are using that select quote in isolation from the other comments she's recently made; then it's only ignorant, neglecting that attitudes can also be taught to further generations.

That's not all she has talked about recently... I am shocked to the extent that people just let Oprah have a pass. Especially with Oprah, who has been so "oppressed" that she's been held back from creating a billion dollar enterprise... Oh wait.

Her exposure to racism is having a clerk not hand over a 10k purse without consulting a manager., give me a break...

Now when you consider that she equated previously, within the week, that the ONLY opposition to Obama comes from white racists, then you get a feel for what the purpose of these statements really are.
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That is not what she said:


BBC: Has it ever crossed your mind that some the treatment that Obama and the challenges he's faced and some of the reporting he's received is because he is an African-American?

WINFREY: Has it ever crossed my mind? It's crossed my mind probably as many times as it's crossed your mind. Probably it's crossed my mind more times than it's crossed your mind. Just the level of disrespect when the senator yelled out "You're a liar," do you remember that?

Yes. I think that there is a level of disrespect for the office that occurs and that occurs in some cases, and maybe even many cases, because he's African-American.
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Kobie said:
It's like sometimes they forget there's such a thing as Google, and that these actual quotes are readily available.
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Right. Also, she was talking about the level of disrespect he is getting. Love or like his policies you can't deny that he is the most disrespected president in US history.

1) He not American
2) Yelling YOU LIE !!!! at the SOTU
3) Rep. Lamborn saying he don't even want to be near Obama because it is like touching a tar baby
4) Governor Jan Brewer waving her finger in his face
5) Congressmen calling the president a liar

The list goes on and on

And these are all people in legislative positions


I understand that Presidents often have highly disagreeable relationships with member of congress from the opposing party, but while most of those fights stemmed from deep policy divides, the relentless hostility between President Obama and Republicans seems strikingly personal. basically petty.


I challenge anyone from the right to prove Oprah wrong by giving some examples of any US president who was disrespected more.
 
rcart76 said:
Right. Also, she was talking about the level of disrespect he is getting. Love or like his policies you can't deny that he is the most disrespected president in US history.

1) He not American
2) Yelling YOU LIE !!!! at the SOTU
3) Rep. Lamborn saying he don't even want to be near Obama because it is like touching a tar baby
4) Governor Jan Brewer waving her finger in his face
5) Congressmen calling the president a liar

The list goes on and on

And these are all people in legislative positions


I understand that Presidents often have highly disagreeable relationships with member of congress from the opposing party, but while most of those fights stemmed from deep policy divides, the relentless hostility between President Obama and Republicans seems strikingly personal. basically petty.


I challenge anyone from the right to prove Oprah wrong by giving some examples of any US president who was disrespected more.
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I'll say with no reservations that he's the most disrespected president of my lifetime. As far as history ... the U.S. has a long, storied past of talking a lot of **** about our elected leaders, so I guess it's possible someone got it worse than Obama. But I doubt it.

Anyone who thinks Bush got it worse than Obama is delusional.
 
Kobie said:
I'll say with no reservations that he's the most disrespected president of my lifetime. As far as history ... the U.S. has a long, storied past of talking a lot of **** about our elected leaders, so I guess it's possible someone got it worse than Obama. But I doubt it.

Anyone who thinks Bush got it worse than Obama is delusional.
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GWB was not treated worse than BHO. GWB was treated much worse than BHO.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
GWB was not treated worse than BHO. GWB was treated much worse than BHO.:peace
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Much, much worse! And GWB never ever publically called the Dems "the enemy!"

Greetings, Jack. :2wave:
 
pbrauer said:
Okay, how about a list similar to the one in post #259?
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This will get you started.


  1. [h=3]The Treatment of Bush Has Been a Disgrace - WSJ.com[/h]online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB122584386627599251‎
    Nov 5, 2008 - ... plant after George W. Bush. The proposition is only one example of the classless disrespect many Americans have shown the president. AP.


  2. [h=3]Presidential disrespect went around and now comes around[/h]legalinsurrection.com/.../presidential-disrespect-went-around-and-now-c...‎
    Sep 3, 2011 - It was a delicate task, with Mr. Bush and Dick Cheney sitting feet from him as Mr. Obama, only minutes into his term as president, described the ...


  3. [h=3]Cutting Through The Fog: When Did Disrespecting A President ...[/h]cuttingthroughthefog.blogspot.com/.../when-did-disrespecting-president-...‎
    Jun 18, 2012 - We've never had a President like this heckled so disrespectfully." Then ... But, apparently, the left has all but forgotten the treatment of George W. Bush. For example, while giving the 2005 State Of The Union Address, several ...:peace


 
Obama is treated worse than Bush was? I don't see how anyone can honestly make that claim.

Is Death of a President Volume 2 currently in pre production somewhere?
 
Kobie said:
I'll say with no reservations that he's the most disrespected president of my lifetime. As far as history ... the U.S. has a long, storied past of talking a lot of **** about our elected leaders, so I guess it's possible someone got it worse than Obama. But I doubt it.

Anyone who thinks Bush got it worse than Obama is delusional.
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Abraham lincoln. Arguably one of the most hated presidents in history. The democratic party gave him a lot of heat for fighting to end slavery
 
Phil_Osophy said:
Abraham lincoln. Arguably one of the most hated presidents in history. The democratic party gave him a lot of heat for fighting to end slavery
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They certainly did; however, media and the conduits for people to express their anger were much more limited than they are now.
 
I really dont remember mindless Left wing lies repeated over and over and countless outright lies in email form and a left wing noise machine during Bush, I dont remember a full time left wing mouthpiece news agency and multiple talking heads that millions listen to that spewed anti Bush hate 24/7 adn...well it is just disgusting when the right tries to play the victim.
Jack Hays said:
GWB was not treated worse than BHO. GWB was treated much worse than BHO.:peace
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mak2 said:
I really dont remember mindless Left wing lies repeated over and over and countless outright lies in email form and a left wing noise machine during Bush, I dont remember a full time left wing mouthpiece news agency and multiple talking heads that millions listen to that spewed anti Bush hate 24/7 adn...well it is just disgusting when the right tries to play the victim.
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That's because you obviously didn't notice it. That left-side blinder, which we've already established.
 
Uh,no, you have not idea of what you speak. I was a Bush supporter until after his second election. I am still not very far left on most, er almost all, issues but I am very very anti stupid, and there is so much from the right wing anymore I just cannot deal with it. Painting people who disagree with you with some broad brush that they are just stupid partisans that follow the party line is either intellectual laziness or insecurity, or maybe inability to think through individual issues or ideas. You left sided blinder is stupid, and wrong.
Harshaw said:
That's because you obviously didn't notice it. That left-side blinder, which we've already established.
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