Fox News snowflake (Bret Baier) whines about Kamala Harris interview. I guess he wasn't ready for composed, prepared and tough.

[Ouroboros]

That was a useless senseless question. Brett Baier is the top news reporter on Fox. He could’ve given her numbers. It wasn’t a quiz show.

It;s not his responsibility to feed her numbers. but it is her responsibility to answer straight questions germane to the safety of the American people, whose votes she wants

All of the complaints about Baier "interrupting" were not heard from Libs when Trump got "fact-checked," of course. That was supposedly to the benefit of the Dem campaign. But Baier was indeed fact-checking the squirmy candidate.

 

[Ouroboros]

There was no logical point of asking the question. The reasonable question Bret Baier should have asked is; "What do you intend to do about illegal immigration?" Isn't that the real question that people want answers to? Trump closed the borders during the pandemic, remember? Trump also enacted the 'Remain in Mexico' bill, and Title 42 remember? It allowed the government to release migrants with asylum claims to Mexico to await their asylum hearings in the United States. Title 42 was a pandemic-era health authority that allowed the U.S. to expel migrants and asylum seekers at the border without authorization. CBP averaged more than 75,900 expulsions per month over the course of the life of Title 42. Title 8 enforcement actions and Title 42 expulsions began March 21, 2020, and ended on May 11, 2023, after a Federal Court struck down Title 42.

Trump didn't pass a single immigration bill in his 4 years in office. He instituted, through his Presidential powers, new immigration policies blocking the legal pathways to enter the country. He didn't do a damned thing about the root causes of increased immigration. Kamala Harris did exactly that.

Comparing the number of immigrants during this period of the pandemic during Trump's administration naturally fell dramatically, so to compare the numbers between Trump and Biden was irrelevant, and Bret Baier knew this very well. He was just looking for a 'gotcha moment' but instead he got solutions from Kamala Harris about her plan to stem the tide of immigrants arriving at the border and how to handle the crisis at the border with increased staffing. That's NOT what Bret Baier wanted to hear.

What root causes did KH act to change?

And why, in 3.5 years, did her actions not stem illegal immigration, since that was supposed to be the effect?

Oh, yeah-- the bill that would have solved everything was killed by Trump's evil influence.

Beefing up the personnel of immigration courts-- assuming that did happen-- is not a "root cause" of the tidal wave of illegals, it's a stopgap. Liberals didn't want the problem solved; they wanted an issue over which to hammer Donald Trump, as with their lying narratives about putting kids in cages-- some of which were built under Obama.

 

[butterfly]

,la was asked how many illegal immigrants entered the country during her 4 years.
What number did she give

She hasn't had four years.

 

[butterfly]

It;s not his responsibility to feed her numbers. but it is her responsibility to answer straight questions germane to the safety of the American people, whose votes she wants

All of the complaints about Baier "interrupting" were not heard from Libs when Trump got "fact-checked," of course. That was supposedly to the benefit of the Dem campaign. But Baier was indeed fact-checking the squirmy candidate.

Repeated interruptions and fact checking are two different behaviors. When he was interrupting her, he wasn't fact checking. He was arguing before she got her answer out.

 

[Ouroboros]

Repeated interruptions and fact checking are two different behaviors. When he was interrupting her, he wasn't fact checking. He was arguing before she got her answer out.

No. She was making generalized statements, the sort she's always been comfortable with, and Baier attempted to keep her on target.

The fact that she kept defaulting to generalized BS showed how little she has to offer.

 

[HumblePi]

What root causes did KH act to change?

And why, in 3.5 years, did her actions not stem illegal immigration, since that was supposed to be the effect?

Oh, yeah-- the bill that would have solved everything was killed by Trump's evil influence.

Beefing up the personnel of immigration courts-- assuming that did happen-- is not a "root cause" of the tidal wave of illegals, it's a stopgap. Liberals didn't want the problem solved; they wanted an issue over which to hammer Donald Trump, as with their lying narratives about putting kids in cages-- some of which were built under Obama.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...an-reveals-about-her-foreign-policy-approach/

Harris traveled to Guatemala and Mexico in June 2021. A month later, she rolled out a five-pillar strategy that revolved around working with in-country partners to address the root causes of Central American migration, noting that “migration to our border is also a symptom of much larger issues” and admitting from the start that “progress will not be instantaneous.” She subsequently visited Honduras in January 2022. In March 2024, she welcomed Guatemala’s new president, Bernardo Arévalo, to the White House for more discussions. This approach suggests that Harris could govern in a manner where decisions are carefully thought out and where a multitude of factors are taken into account before acting.

In its three years, the five-pillar strategy has produced more than $5.2 billion in commitments from companies and organizations to invest in the region while supporting local development in areas of high emigration. And there are signs that migration from the region is now slowing. The number of Guatemalans encountered at the southwestern border last month (11,485) was the second-lowest since November 2020. The number of Hondurans (8,896) was the lowest over the same period. Overall, the proportion of migrants encountered at the US border who are citizens of Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador has dropped from 49 percent (March 2021) to 18 percent (June 2024).

 

[HumblePi]

It;s not his responsibility to feed her numbers. but it is her responsibility to answer straight questions germane to the safety of the American people, whose votes she wants

All of the complaints about Baier "interrupting" were not heard from Libs when Trump got "fact-checked," of course. That was supposedly to the benefit of the Dem campaign. But Baier was indeed fact-checking the squirmy candidate.

I do not recall Trump being so voraciously interrupted. Bret Baier was hostile, rude and disrespectful.

 

[CaughtInThe]

I do not recall Trump being so voraciously interrupted

He should be.

 

[butterfly]

Repeated interruptions and fact checking are two different behaviors. When he was interrupting her, he wasn't fact checking. He was arguing before she got her answer out.

No. She was making generalized statements, the sort she's always been comfortable with, and Baier attempted to keep her on target.

The fact that she kept defaulting to generalized BS showed how little she has to offer.

We heard it differently.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

What root causes did KH act to change?

And why, in 3.5 years, did her actions not stem illegal immigration, since that was supposed to be the effect?

Oh, yeah-- the bill that would have solved everything was killed by Trump's evil influence.

Beefing up the personnel of immigration courts-- assuming that did happen-- is not a "root cause" of the tidal wave of illegals, it's a stopgap. Liberals didn't want the problem solved; they wanted an issue over which to hammer Donald Trump, as with their lying narratives about putting kids in cages-- some of which were built under Obama.

Have you considered that upping the number of prosecutions of the people who hire "undocumented aliens" and starting to impose the maximum penalties available on those convicted might do one heck of a lot to reduce the number of "undocumented aliens" who come to the US in the hopes of bettering their economic and social conditions?

Of course, if that were to happen, then the number of **R*E*A*L** **A*M*E*R*I*C*A*N*S** who would be getting tossed in jail and paying huge fines would zoom, so maybe that shouldn't be done.

 

[bubbabgone]

The numbers were low under Donald Trump because of the pandemic, did you forget? Once the restrictions ended in 2021 immigration surge once again

The number is absolutely irrelevant, only relevant to the Trump scoreboard keepers. The relevance was in her answer as to what to do to address the problem, not the numbers

And he backpedaled from it like a cat with its tail on fire, to demanding I answer something completely different. Why would I when I couldnt get an honest discussion out of him to begin with?

Bret Baier:

...How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has released into the country over the last three and a half years?

Kamala Harris:

I’m glad you raised the issue of immigration because I agree, it’s a topic people want to discuss. ...

So given she was so glad to hear the question, what was ,la's estimate ?

 

[bubbabgone]

She hasn't had four years.

Bret Baier:
...How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has released into the country over the last three and a half years?


You think it can get smaller?

 

[bubbabgone]

 

[Lursa]

So given she was so glad to hear the question, what was ,la's estimate ?

Answer my question first, I asked first @Pyrite just pwned you. Post 84

 

[Ouroboros]

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...an-reveals-about-her-foreign-policy-approach/

Harris traveled to Guatemala and Mexico in June 2021. A month later, she rolled out a five-pillar strategy that revolved around working with in-country partners to address the root causes of Central American migration, noting that “migration to our border is also a symptom of much larger issues” and admitting from the start that “progress will not be instantaneous.” She subsequently visited Honduras in January 2022. In March 2024, she welcomed Guatemala’s new president, Bernardo Arévalo, to the White House for more discussions. This approach suggests that Harris could govern in a manner where decisions are carefully thought out and where a multitude of factors are taken into account before acting.

In its three years, the five-pillar strategy has produced more than $5.2 billion in commitments from companies and organizations to invest in the region while supporting local development in areas of high emigration. And there are signs that migration from the region is now slowing. The number of Guatemalans encountered at the southwestern border last month (11,485) was the second-lowest since November 2020. The number of Hondurans (8,896) was the lowest over the same period. Overall, the proportion of migrants encountered at the US border who are citizens of Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador has dropped from 49 percent (March 2021) to 18 percent (June 2024).

Thanks for specifying the Dems' alleged solution; you explained it better than KH ever does.

Now, we've heard for a long time about "root causes," which in this case consist of the U.S. taking steps (which will almost certainly cost the country money in some manner) to "build up" the chaotic countries so that in theory their citizens won't want to travel to the U.S. I have no faith in this solution. I understand why Liberals of all stripes would like this latest manifestation of dollar diplomacy, since it allows them to think of themselves as generous sponsors of our "little brown brothers." (The Taft quote applies here since the Left has repeatedly characterized border security as racist.) One major problem with this solution is that a lot of immigrants-- even the ones who intend to work an honest day's work if they get in by hook or crook-- are coming here not just for free stuff (though that doesn't hurt) but because the U.S. already has the advantages of a fully articulated system of social benefits. Underdeveloped countries may or may not develop such systems if we give them lots of patronage, but they won't develop them any time soon. And the cartels that have battened onto the Liberal permissiveness toward illegal immigration-- what do they care about preying on penny ante operations in Honduras, when they've already got a foothold in the richest country in the world?

Even if this "root cause" approach could have *some* limited good effects, the plan also fails overall in that its main motivation is to allow Liberals to virtue signal in order to gain political advantage. Building up other countries is not, in the final analysis, America's responsibility.

 

[Ouroboros]

I do not recall Trump being so voraciously interrupted. Bret Baier was hostile, rude and disrespectful.

I heard from one account that Baier interrupted Trump twenty times in the interview referenced. If that's true, then KH got the equitable treatment she claims to want.

 

[Ouroboros]

Have you considered that upping the number of prosecutions of the people who hire "undocumented aliens" and starting to impose the maximum penalties available on those convicted might do one heck of a lot to reduce the number of "undocumented aliens" who come to the US in the hopes of bettering their economic and social conditions?

Of course, if that were to happen, then the number of **R*E*A*L** **A*M*E*R*I*C*A*N*S** who would be getting tossed in jail and paying huge fines would zoom, so maybe that shouldn't be done.

It doesn't matter to me if penalties increased for those who take advantage of illegals in order to undercut American pay rates.

However, any such policy would also have to penalize the illegals who accept such labor. When they come to the U.S., they do so knowing that they will be complicit in undercutting American citizens. No Liberal is going to endorse that form of equal treatment under the law, and to save their precious virtue signaling the concomitant Lib solution would be to place illegals on some form of public dole as a reward for illegal entry, rather than allowing them to just hang around committing crimes while waiting for their court dates.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I heard from one account that Baier interrupted Trump twenty times in the interview referenced. If that's true, then KH got the equitable treatment she claims to want.

You may have "heard" it, but it wasn't true.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

It doesn't matter to me if penalties increased for those who take advantage of illegals in order to undercut American pay rates.

And that is because you [1] don't hire "undocumented workers" and [2] don't make massive campaign contributions to political parties.

However, any such policy would also have to penalize the illegals who accept such labor.

Fair enough.

When they come to the U.S., they do so knowing that they will be complicit in undercutting American citizens.

Do they? Hell, American adults and school children don't know what the labour laws of the United States of America are so why would you expect that someone from a different country would?

No Liberal is going to endorse that form of equal treatment under the law,

Knee jerk cant.

and to save their precious virtue signaling the concomitant Lib solution would be to place illegals on some form of public dole as a reward for illegal entry,

Further knee jerk cant.

rather than allowing them to just hang around committing crimes while waiting for their court dates.

Even more knee jerk cant - but accompanied by a liberal dose of bigotry.

 

[bubbabgone]

I heard from one account that Baier interrupted Trump twenty times in the interview referenced. If that's true, then KH got the equitable treatment she claims to want.

Yes it’s true.
FOX showed a clip.
Both trump and ,la like to talk about what they want to talk about.
The difference is that ,la has built an entire campaign on avoiding questions that make her look bad so she repeats parts of her stump speeches.
In an interview that’s unworkable.
Some people here dont seem ready to accept that .
Just yesterday Maria Shriver told someone at a town hall only pre-planned questions are approved.
They’re not hiding it.

 

[Ouroboros]

You may have "heard" it, but it wasn't true.

Maybe I'll check it someday. You'll forgive me if I don't just take your word on the matter.

 

[Ouroboros]

And that is because you [1] don't hire "undocumented workers" and [2] don't make massive campaign contributions to political parties.

Well, I'm just distancing myself from your hackneyed REAL AMERICANS comment. Not that I think that will change your opinion.

Fair enough.

Do they? Hell, American adults and school children don't know what the labour laws of the United States of America are so why would you expect that someone from a different country would?

If illegals know enough to dodge La Migra, then they know they're dodging the law. You insult them by assuming their ignorance.

Knee jerk cant.

Nope.

Further knee jerk cant.

Nope.

Even more knee jerk cant - but accompanied by a liberal dose of bigotry.

Nope, and nothing to do with bigotry. If you allow any people of any race to sojourn illegally through the country, but don't allow them to work because they're illegals, then they're going to commit crimes, if only to get money for food and lodgings. Thus, allowing sojourners without a dole is asking for trouble-- though having a dole doesn't mean some won't commit crimes anyway, which is a thing we have all seen.