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Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

What if...? said:
Why DID Crowder square off with someone who fell down in a manner completely unrelated to him?
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That is an excellent question. Also, if it was someone else who pushed the guy to the ground, then why did the guy punch Crowder?
 
Moot said:
That is an excellent question. Also, if it was someone else who pushed the guy to the ground, then why did the guy punch Crowder?
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Which brings us right back to a bully getting what he deserved.
 
"Steven, stop whining, take your licks, and accept that getting hit in the face is a hazard of inserting yourself in the middle of an argument between billionaire-funded know-nothing ideologues and people whose livelihoods and stability are being threatened by the insatiable greed of the super-rich and the blind extremism of their wooden-headed political allies. In exchange, liberals will buy you a band-aid for the cut on your forehead and re-iterate that Punching Is Bad. Sound good?"

Fox News' Conservative Thug Steve Crowder Absurdly Challenges MI Protester To Duel In The Octagon | Crooks and Liars
 
TheDemSocialist said:
All i posted was an account by an eyewitness, and Crowder is known for going out of his way to provoke people and get in peoples faces with his past videos.
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And again (even if what you said were true), it has nothing to do with Tony punching Crowder.
 
Catawba said:
Which brings us right back to a bully getting what he deserved.
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:doh
Tony hasn't got what he deserved yet.

But the Union bullies that we can see in all of the videos got what they deserved and didn't want RTW. :2rofll:
 
Sounds like you are the one who is whining. Looks that way too. Go figure!
 
Moot said:
That is an excellent question. Also, if it was someone else who pushed the guy to the ground, then why did the guy punch Crowder?
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It was a ridiculous question as the watching of the videos makes it so.




 
Crowder: What?

Pro-Union protestor: You don't touch nobody.

Crowder: What?

Pro-Union protestor: You f----- don't touch nobody.


Next we see the guy on the ground and Crowder with his hands up and moving around to face him as he gets up.
 
Moot said:
Crowder: What?

Pro-Union protestor: You don't touch nobody.

Crowder: What?

Pro-Union protestor: You f----- don't touch nobody.


Next we see the guy on the ground and Crowder with his hands up and moving around to face him as he gets up.
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Wow!
Wrong! But wow.
You certainly left out a lot in your attempt at deceit. Which is apparently par for the course.

Like the fact that Tony was engaged with another at the time that Crowder started to walk away.
As shown by the evidence.

You should really try paying attention to the facts instead of trying to make them up.


Even the guy in the red hard hat is focused on that dispute.








He didn't push him to the ground.
 
I'm trying.

WHAT IS THE ARROW POINTING AT? Why, it's Crowders left arm shoving Tony to the ground. Notice the shocked look on the man's face in the background? He is clearly looking at Crowder.

Now look at it in slow motion....1:37 to 1:57


First you see Crowder slyly looking around as he moves in on Tony who arguing with a man who has a camera focused on Tony's stomach. Next we see Crowder moving in tangent with Tony as he is being shoved to the ground and at 1:57 with his left arm still stretched out shoving Tony. Next we see Crowder throw his hands in the air as he manuevers around to square off with the man he had just shoved.

There are only two people in the video who would've shoved Tony.

(1)The man Tony is arguing with and (2) Crowder
 
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What is more, by using his position as a talking head to deliberately deceive the American people about what "Right to Work" really means, he is engaging in a much more insidious act of violence.
 
Excon said:
Sounds like you are the one who is whining. Looks that way too. Go figure!
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Do you even know what "Right to Work" is really all about?
 
Holy ****.
You must be seeing things.
An arm being moved does not mean he was pushed to the ground. :doh
Crowder is not pushing him to the ground.

There were not even engaged at the time.

And you can spare us your hyper-partisan biased bs hyperbole. As that is what it is.

You are making things up.

Their positions made it impossible for Crowder to push Tony. Do you not understand that? Impossible.
 
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Sig said:
Do you even know what "Right to Work" is really all about?
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:doh
And we got another that likes to go off topic it seems.
And that has what to do with Tony hitting Crowder?
 
Holy ****.
You are seeing things.
Crowder is not pushing him to the ground.

There were not even engaged at the time.

And you can spare us your hyper-partisan biased bs hyperbole. As that is what it is.

You are making things up.

Their positions made it impossible for Crowder to push Tony. Do you not understand that? Impossible.​

In addition. Your whole post is ridiculous.

Crowder is not shoving Tony to the ground.

For your allegation to be true, Crowder would have had to be in a position (which he was not) to get leverage to push Tony to the ground.
He would have had to know exactly where Tony was in order to put his hand on him to shove him to the ground.
Both of these things were and are impossible as their position do not allow it. It was impossible. As Crowder's back was to Tony.


Tony was involved in a dispute with the other guy.
Crowder then moves away, with his back towards Tony.

Tony then falls against Crowder causing Crowder to exclaim , "You just assaulted me buddy."
What you see at the point you provided is Crowder moving his arm after Tony fell against him. Not Crowder pushing him to the ground.

The lengths that you liberal folks will go to try and defend the the guy who is in the wrong is astounding.
Tony was in the wrong.
 
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Excon said:
:doh
And we got another that likes to go off topic it seems.
And that has what to do with Tony hitting Crowder?
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It's has everything to do with it. As I posted earlier: By using his position as a talking head to deliberately deceive the American people about what "Right to Work" really means, Crowder is engaging in a much more insidious act of violence.

Now please answer my question:

Do you even know what "Right to Work" is really all about?
 
Wrong!

It is off topic, as it has nothing to do with Tony hitting Crowder.
 


There was no one else standing near Tony except the guy with the baseball hat that Tony had been arguing with and the union guy with the orange hard hat.

The guy with the baseball hat stepped back as Crowder moved into position. That just leaves Crowder as the only one near enough to have shoved Tony and the only one with a motive.
 
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Moot said:
The guy with the baseball hat stepped back as Crowder moved into position.
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Bs!
They both turned their backs to Tony. They were both disengaging at that point.
Crowder did not move into any position as you are ridiculously claiming.
His back was to him.


Moot said:
That leaves just Crowder as the only one near enough to have shoved Tony and the only one with a motive.
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Wrong! You do not know if Tony tried to continue his argument with the other guy as it appears he tries, as he was still flapping his gums.
All we know is that they both initially turned away and Crowder stayed turned away.

And the guy with the Red hard hat was between Tony and Crowder.


But as already pointed out;
For your allegation to be true, Crowder would have had to be in a position (which he was not) to get leverage to push Tony to the ground.
He would have had to know exactly where Tony was in order to put his hand on him to shove him to the ground.
Both of these things were and are impossible as their position do not allow it. It was impossible. As Crowder's back was to Tony.


Tony was involved in a dispute with the other guy.
Crowder then moves away, with his back towards Tony.

Tony then falls against Crowder causing Crowder to exclaim , "You just assaulted me buddy."
What you see at the point you provided is Crowder moving his arm after Tony fell against him. Not Crowder pushing him to the ground.

The lengths that you liberal folks will go to try and defend the the guy who is in the wrong is astounding.
Tony was in the wrong.​
 

Its absolutely amazing that you can see into Crowder's mind to tell us what he is noticing and then go completely blind and can't see Crowder move into position and shove Tony to the ground in the slow motion video that I just posted.


This video in slow motion is the nail in Crowders coffin.


So lets recap shall we? :

Tony is standing with another union man near the tent and he is arguing with a man in a baseball cap who is filming his torso. At first, it's just the three of them standing there.

Coward moves in with his hands up in a defensive mode and starts looking around to see if anyone is watching.

The man Tony was arguing with steps back as Crowder moves inbetween them.

Crowder quickly looks back over his shoulder and then turns to Tony and with a forceful determined push, shoves him to the ground.

Crowder steps around to the front of Tony who is on the ground and raises his hands into defensive mode as Tony gets up and clobbers him.


If you can see into Crowders mind, then why can't you see what is clearly on the video, Excon?
 
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I don't think reiterating that punching someone is bad will work... as it is readily apparent that you people do not believe it is bad...

sorry folks, you have shown yourself to be advocates of assault when the assault is perpetuated by a person whose political agenda you agree with....you'll have to live with the fact that you support and celebrate unjust violence .. no way around that simple fact.
 
Yes lets recap shall we.

You have already been caught and shown to be dishonest and deceitful, and willing to make **** up.
And you think you have credibility. :doh

You are now again trying to make **** up and are being caught at it again.


What you say is in the video, is not.

Crowder does not move-in to see if anyone is around. He is extracting himself and getting his friend to join in moving away.
Crowder does not move-in between them at anytime.

The guy with the Red Hard Hat is between Crowder and Tony.
Crowder has his back to Tony as Tony falls to Crowder's side.


But as already pointed out;
For your allegation to be true, Crowder would have had to be in a position (which he was not) to get leverage to push Tony to the ground.
He would have had to know exactly where Tony was in order to put his hand on him to shove him to the ground.
Both of these things were and are impossible as their position do not allow it. It was impossible. As Crowder's back was to Tony.


Tony was involved in a dispute with the other guy.
Crowder then moves away, with his back towards Tony.

Tony then falls against Crowder causing Crowder to exclaim , "You just assaulted me buddy."
What you see at the point you provided may be Crowder moving his arm after Tony fell against him. Not Crowder pushing him to the ground.

Heck it could even be a portion of Tony's arm brushing against Crowder. Which would explain his exclamation.

The fact remains that it was impossible for Crowder to push Tony to the ground as their positions would not allow it to happen.
Tony was behind Crowder.



The lengths that you liberal folks will go to try and defend the the guy who is in the wrong is astounding.
Tony was in the wrong. Just as you are.
 

There is not enough room between tony and the guy hes arguing with for crowder to pass etween them without contact, and who is crowder going to shoulder, his ally or those he is there opposing?

There is nowhere to go after passing between them, hes right at the tent.

So he shoves between them and then turns right around and goes BACK between them.

(And your story has changed, as originally ypu laimed tony fell beside crowder. No mention of tony colliding with him on the way down)

How do you reconcile the proximity of tony and the guy he was talking to and the clear video of crowders right arm contacting tonys chest as he passes BETWEEN them. And where was crowder GOING? Theres nothing but tent past tony. So crowder just shoved between them twice in rapid succession. In a jostling crowd. And somebody fell down as a result. But because crowder was past them when tony fell, he couldnt have had anything to do with it.

Right.

Sure.

Whatever you say.
 
Holy ****! :doh
Your absurdity was already addressed.


:naughty
And no my story hasn't changed.
Tony still falls by his side. Period. That is not a change.
Offering a very plausible reason why Crowder exclaimed, "You just assaulted me buddy!", at the time Tony fell by his side, is not a change either, but a more than plausible explanation as to why he said what he did.
Do try and keep up.

And wtf is this bs? It tells me you can't remember what you watched from the videos.
What if...? said:
And where was crowder GOING? Theres nothing but tent past tony. So crowder just shoved between them twice in rapid succession. In a jostling crowd.
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Crodwer didn't "shove" past anybody.
 

Thank you for the opinion of you, Excon and Fox news. No else, including the police believe Crowder's story!
 
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