Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion[W:42]

[Mason66]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

How should Brown's family feel about Wilson?

How should they feel about the son they raised causing all this turmoil?

 

[jaeger19]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

None of that happened?

Brown didn't try to take his gun inside the truck?

The forensic evidence does not support Brown trying to take a holstered firearm from Wilson.

 

[jaeger19]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Where was Brown when he was shot in the arm?

Forensic evidence and witness testimony put Brown next to the Wilsons vehicle when he was first shot in the arm.

 

[jaeger19]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Do you disagree with Holder's Justice Department?

The Justice Department had to decide whether there was evidence of a federal crime.

The Grand Jury had other charges to consider.

 

[Mason66]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

The forensic evidence does not support Brown trying to take a holstered firearm from Wilson.

So blood inside the truck doesn't prove anything?

You think Wilson unholstered his weapon in a closed space, which they are trained not to do, to shoot Brown with no reason to do so?

 

[Mason66]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

The Justice Department had to decide whether there was evidence of a federal crime.

The Grand Jury had other charges to consider.

Exactly. There was no crime for them to prosecute. If there had been they would have.

Why are you hung up on the Grand Jury.

What do you think they got wrong?

You understand they saw the evidence and you have not, right?

Don't you think their informed decision would outweigh your uninformed ideas?

 

[Mason66]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Forensic evidence and witness testimony put Brown next to the Wilsons vehicle when he was first shot in the arm.

How did blood get inside the truck?

 

[Fruityfact]

That would only be one more piece of evidence and these people backing Brown don't care about evidence.

They would likely say the footage was doctored so it wouldn't even be considered.

No. It would be definitive unbiased evidence. Say there was a body cam on Wilson. I doubt this would've become such a heated situation(if for example the video corroborated Wilson).
I don't care about what you say, "they would say"

 

[Mason66]

No. It would be definitive unbiased evidence. Say there was a body cam on Wilson. I doubt this would've become such a heated situation(if for example the video corroborated Wilson).
I don't care about what you say, "they would say"

What you are missing is that the evidence now shows who was at fault and what happened, but the evidence is dismissed just like the body cam footage would be.

 

[Fruityfact]

What you are missing is that the evidence now shows who was at fault and what happened, but the evidence is dismissed just like the body cam footage would be.

So thats your argument against body cams, "I think they will dismiss the evidence so why try anyways"
:lamo

 

[Mason66]

So thats your argument against body cams, "I think they will dismiss the evidence so why try anyways"
:lamo

Who said it was evidence against anything? I am just saying it will not be the cure all you think it will.

 

[Fruityfact]

Who said it was evidence against anything? I am just saying it will not be the cure all you think it will.

Who said it was a cure all. We can though see the results--the recent shooting of Dubose. No body cam, then the circumstances might be very different.

 

[jaeger19]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

So blood inside the truck doesn't prove anything?

You think Wilson unholstered his weapon in a closed space, which they are trained not to do, to shoot Brown with no reason to do so?

Sure.. it shows that he was shot at the vehicle and blood spatter went into the vehicle.

and yes.. the forensic evidence supports that Wilson drew his firearm in the vehicle and shot Brown.

At the vehicle.. I think its questionable whether Wilson could be justified in shooting Brown.. AT THE VEHICLE..

the law stipulates that Wilson has to "reasonably" believe that he was in imminent danger of death or grave bodily injury.

In that enclosed space.. with Brown possibly striking him. I think its reasonable that Wilson could believe that he was in serious danger of grave injury.

As an former reserve officer.. I would give him the benefit of the doubt. no room to maneuver and possibly being hit? Tie goes to the police officer. (even though Wilson did not show any injuries that would be consistent with being hit with enough force to cause death or grave bodily harm)

Once Brown runs off..and Wilson exits the vehicle..? No way is it justifiable.

 

[Renae]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Well he made a choice when he executed the black kid -- shooting him over 10 times.

Now he needs to live with that choice.

Of course no police dept can afford to hire him -- it would lead to an outcry.

He needs a night watchman's job now.

He didn't execute a kid, he killed a young man that decided he was too good for the law and robbed a store then attacked a cop. Wilson deserved a medal, not this. This is the real injustice on display, Wilson living in hiding and people like you perpetuating lies borne of ignorance.

 

[Renae]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

CAN an unarmed man do serious bodily harm to another? Certainly they CAN... IF the circumstances are right. I have dislocated peoples shoulders and broken bones defending myself from two knife attacks.

I have fought in the ring, have black belts in martial arts and was a reserve police officer.. and am also a medical provider that understands what it really takes to do grave bodily harm to someone.

Wilson is or was at the time around 200 pounds.. in good physical condition.. is over 6 feet tall, and is a trained officer that's trained in unarmed combat.

Brown was a big fat guy.. out of shape, wounded.. several feet away giving Wilson plenty of room to maneuver.. Not an imminent threat of grave bodily harm or death.

Your argument that's it justifiable simply doesn't fly in the real world.

The real doesn't fly is your hollywoo view of life and death situations.

 

[Amanda1858]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

How should they feel about the son they raised causing all this turmoil?

There was no way they could have known their son would be murdered this way.

 

[Amanda1858]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Even though Darren Wilson didn't receive any prison time, he is still serving a sentence. He is not really a free man.

 

[Riveroaks]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

He didn't execute a kid, he killed a young man that decided he was too good for the law and robbed a store then attacked a cop. Wilson deserved a medal, not this. This is the real injustice on display, Wilson living in hiding and people like you perpetuating lies borne of ignorance.

Several of you in this thread are getting hung up on the hot button word "execute."

Execute simply means killing on purpose and unnecessarily.

There is no doubt for me that Wilson killed Brown on purpose and unnecessarily.

You may not like that conclusion, but it seems valid from all the data that were released.

I would not give a medal to a cop who executed a street thug. Look at the riots it caused.

Look at the property damage and suffering it has caused.

It does not take 10 rounds to the upper chest and head to immobilize someone.

That Wilson was ever in fear of his life is lie and a myth.

 

[Riveroaks]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Even though Darren Wilson didn't receive any prison time, he is still serving a sentence. He is not really a free man.

Exactly! Although the grand jury acquitted Wilson of any criminal charges, the public are not fooled.

It was the same way with OJ Simpson. The trial jury said not guilty. The public knew better.

 

[Mason66]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Sure.. it shows that he was shot at the vehicle and blood spatter went into the vehicle.

and yes.. the forensic evidence supports that Wilson drew his firearm in the vehicle and shot Brown.

At the vehicle.. I think its questionable whether Wilson could be justified in shooting Brown.. AT THE VEHICLE..

the law stipulates that Wilson has to "reasonably" believe that he was in imminent danger of death or grave bodily injury.

In that enclosed space.. with Brown possibly striking him. I think its reasonable that Wilson could believe that he was in serious danger of grave injury.

As an former reserve officer.. I would give him the benefit of the doubt. no room to maneuver and possibly being hit? Tie goes to the police officer. (even though Wilson did not show any injuries that would be consistent with being hit with enough force to cause death or grave bodily harm)

Once Brown runs off..and Wilson exits the vehicle..? No way is it justifiable.

Can you show anywhere this is true?

 

[Mason66]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

There was no way they could have known their son would be murdered this way.

That is not what I said. I was talking about his actions leading up to the confrontation with Wilson. You don't raise a criminal like that without knowing he is like that.

 

[Amanda1858]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

That is not what I said. I was talking about his actions leading up to the confrontation with Wilson. You don't raise a criminal like that without knowing he is like that.

Dylann Storm Roof's parent's said they didn't know he was a sociopath. You think they were lying?

 

[Riveroaks]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

That is not what I said. I was talking about his actions leading up to the confrontation with Wilson. You don't raise a criminal like that without knowing he is like that.

The kid (Brown) was doing dope and robbing stores. I'm sure the kid's parents knew about the dope. Don't know if they were aware of the robberies.

Even so, it is rather unfortunate that Brown was so doped that day when he ran into Wilson that Brown forgot it is foolishness to provoke a cop.

And it is especially unfortunate that Wilson chose to gun down Brown in broad daylight with lots of witnesses.

Talk about a constellation of bad luck all around.

Now you have a city going through annual riots, with their own martyr thug, and a cop without a job or career.

Hard to say if the parents are to blame this time. People will say anything when you put them on tv.

Maybe they knew and maybe not.

 

[Amanda1858]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

The forensic evidence does not support Brown trying to take a holstered firearm from Wilson.

My sister and I discussed this. We both thought this was a lie. But, Wilson had to make up a good story for why he shot Brown. Who in their right mind would try to take a cop's gun? I think Wilson was just angry at Brown because Brown wasn't cooperating the way he wanted him to.

 

[jaeger19]

Re: Former Ferguson Cop Darren Wilson opens up about his life in seclusion

Exactly. There was no crime for them to prosecute. If there had been they would have.

Why are you hung up on the Grand Jury.

What do you think they got wrong?

You understand they saw the evidence and you have not, right?

Don't you think their informed decision would outweigh your uninformed ideas?

1. The bar is very high to prosecute a federal hate crime. There has to be evidence that Wilson planned to deprive Brown of his civil rights and that he new that it was wrong but he did it anyway.
AS far as a local matter.. there is plenty of evidence for conviction on a variety of charges including the possibility of manslaughter.

2. What did the Grand jury get wrong? the facts. Which is a little hard to blame them honestly since folks that WERE NOT EVEN PRESENT during the shooting were allowed to testify as eye witnesses.

Witness 40's testimony supported Wilson's version of events. Yet prosecutors questioned whether she was even in Ferguson on the day Brown was killed -- and they asked her about a racist post online that would diminish her credibility as an impartial witness.

Video from that day shows no sign that her car was there, and the way she claims she drove home is physically impossible, authorities told her.

In later testimony, Witness 40 changed her story about some of what she saw and admitted to having gathered some details from news reports. She also gave a different reason for having allegedly been in Ferguson that day, and shared part of a journal that she claimed to have kept.

On the day of the killing, she posted a comment online saying, "They need to kill the f---ing n-----s. It is like an ape fest," the grand jury documents say. (CNN is redacting the "f" and "n" words, but she used them in full.) She also organized a small group helping raise money for officers, including Wilson -- a group she said was created as a result of this incident.

Its highly unusual for a DA to take something to grand jury and allow testimony from witnesses that weren't even THERE.

You understand that the evidence is largely available to the public and the especially the evidence which is undisputed that Wilson was a trained police officer.. facing a wounded and unarmed man.. several feet away..