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Denmark is #1, while the US is #22. Why? Take a look at the list and see what you think the first ten have in common. Then, let's discuss how the US might join that top ten.
 
The ranking by category explains well why the US is so far down the list.
 
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Denmark is #1, while the US is #22. Why? Take a look at the list and see what you think the first ten have in common. Then, let's discuss how the US might join that top ten.
Well, when you have a healthcare system tied to being employed by an employer, you're surely not stimulating entrepreneurship.

No idea what you're looking for here, and the answer's complex, but this has been one of my driving forces to see single-payer universal healthcare in this country (along with the more obvious reasons).
 
Well, when you have a healthcare system tied to being employed by an employer, you're surely not stimulating entrepreneurship.

No idea what you're looking for here, and the answer's complex, but this has been one of my driving forces to see single-payer universal healthcare in this country (along with the more obvious reasons).

I believe every country above #22 does have some sort of universal health care.
 
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Denmark is #1, while the US is #22. Why? Take a look at the list and see what you think the first ten have in common. Then, let's discuss how the US might join that top ten.
I'd also comment that the U.S.'s ranking in the "individual economic freedom index" has fallen quite a bit below many of the top countries on your list too, and I seem to recall Denmark was on (or very near) the top of that list, too. The Danes are definitely doing something right that we could learn from.
 
so is the argument that having universal healthcare is the reason a country is good or not for business?


Seriously?
 
Well, when you have a healthcare system tied to being employed by an employer,

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Ranking by category? What categories?

Trade Freedom #38, Monetary Freedom #70, Red Tape #42, Investor Protection #35, Corruption #17, Tax Burden #49, Market Performance #36.

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I am not saying I agree with all of that or even have direct access to the data behind it, just saying "ranking by category explains well why the US is so far down the list."
 
How did you invoke categorical ranking on the website?

Clicked on each nation in the list. (Note, I am still looking for the actual data collection method, methodology used per category, and so forth. So far, nothing.)
 
Clicked on each nation in the list. (Note, I am still looking for the actual data collection method, methodology used per category, and so forth. So far, nothing.)
Your bolded is an interesting point.

Though this list does seem to have correlation to the 'individual economic freedom' list, and that itself may be the piece we are looking for! I.e., "Individual economic freedom fosters (or reflects) economic opportunity". Makes sense to me! :thumbs:
 
Denmark must be bribing researches. They are always at the top of these lists. :)
 
brought to us by previous generations of progressives that thought they had solutions for everything.
What does your comment have to do with this discussion?

Seems like you're trying to inject partisan politics into what's heretofore been an economics discussion.
 
What does your comment have to do with this discussion?

Seems like you're trying to inject partisan politics into what's heretofore been an economics discussion.

what does your agenda based comment have to do with the article?"

"Well, when you have a healthcare system tied to being employed by an employer"

blablabla... clown shoes!
 
so is the argument that having universal healthcare is the reason a country is good or not for business?


Seriously?

No, that argument falls apart when you see that France is actually lower down the list than the US. It could be a factor, though, as all of the top ten countries have UHC.
 
Trade Freedom #38, Monetary Freedom #70, Red Tape #42, Investor Protection #35, Corruption #17, Tax Burden #49, Market Performance #36.

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I am not saying I agree with all of that or even have direct access to the data behind it, just saying "ranking by category explains well why the US is so far down the list."

I'm not sure I'm understanding your point. What you're listing is more criteria than categories. Listing by categories would be more like putting large countries in one category, medium in another and so on.
 
No, that argument falls apart when you see that France is actually lower down the list than the US. It could be a factor, though, as all of the top ten countries have UHC.



I can't see the relation of higher business costs relating to better business environment.
 
so is the argument that having universal healthcare is the reason a country is good or not for business?


Seriously?
It may not be the overwhelming attribute, but there's no denying employer based healthcare limits entrepreneurship to some extent. Losing one's family's healthcare is a major consideration (amongst many) when deciding to leave a corporate job to attempt a start-up. I can speak directly to this. I've known several individuals that had to make just that decision! (one guy had the guts to leave, several others stayed behind, but were extremely envious of the guy that left; we all had wives and kids & we're employed as engineers at a Fortune 50 tech corp).

Entrepreneurship is a key element in growing the private economy (note Microsoft. Apple, Facebook, etc.)
 
It may not be the overwhelming attribute, but there's no denying employer based healthcare limits entrepreneurship to some extent. Losing one's family's healthcare is a major consideration (amongst many) when deciding to leave a corporate job to attempt a start-up. I can speak directly to this. I've known several individuals that had to make just that decision! (one guy had the guts to leave, several others stayed behind, but were extremely envious of the guy that left; we all had wives and kids & we're employed as engineers at a Fortune 50 tech corp).

Entrepreneurship is a key element in growing the private economy (note Microsoft. Apple, Facebook, etc.)

if you did any digging at all, you would see how full of **** you are.

More than 150 new major regulations have been added since 2009 at a cost of $70 billion, according to the Heritage Foundation.

The drop this year by the U.S. can be blamed on a couple of factors. Its rating fell relative to other countries on the World Bank’s measure of investor protection, which is part of the international financial institution’s annual “Doing Business” study. Blame poor scores on the “extent of shareholder governance.” The U.S. also got dinged on the World Banks’ tax component, as well as technological readiness per the World Economic Forum’s “Global Competiveness Report.”
 
Well, for the most part, small populations.

All of the top ten do have smaller populations than the US does. So, is that a factor? How does it relate to being business friendly?
Maybe we'd be better off to declare each of the states an independent nation, then they'd all have smaller populations.
 
Good point. So, how would the top ten have lower business costs than the US?


we were #2 in 2009. We slid from #2 to #22 after "improving" healthcare.

the article explains the slide. mountains of new regulations have been added. monetary freedom has been reduced. we have failed to keep up with technological advances.

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what does your agenda based comment have to do with the article?"

"Well, when you have a healthcare system tied to being employed by an employer"

blablabla... clown shoes!
Alright, it is a political forum so I'm not going to beat any more on a political comment. But my comment on the OP was pretty objective I thought, regardless of my personal desire for a single-payer healthcare system. If you'd like to politicize the issue further, it's your prerogative. In a political forum the thread will eventually turn to politics anyway I suppose.
 

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