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For some Latinos, ‘prosperity gospel’ led them to Trump

j brown's body said:
"The Lehigh Valley Barbershop was bustling with the next generation of American strivers. The mood among the young men, mostly first- or second-generation immigrants from Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, was hopeful. Their candidate, Donald Trump, had just won the presidential election.

...“Kamala said, 'Trump is for the rich, I fight for the poor.’ But I don’t want to be low-class — I hope that’s not a bad way to say it. But I don’t want to be there,” said Christian Pion, 31, referring to Vice President Kamala Harris. He became a U.S. citizen last year, a decade after coming to the United States from the Dominican Republic, and cast his first presidential ballot for Trump. “God doesn’t want you to be poor.”

Next to him, his best friend, Willy J. Castillo, 39, who owns the shop and others, worked the register as he talked about Trump’s drive to succeed, overcome and survive. Castillo, who also voted for Trump, identifies with that: “The Bible says ‘God helps those who help themselves,’ right?”

The mix of hope, drive for success and belief in a God who rewards faith, sometimes with financial accomplishments, has become dominant across the United States and Latin America, experts on Latino religion say. The belief system is sometimes called “seed faith,” “health and wealth gospel,” or “prosperity gospel.”"

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This is pretty funny. In fact, the Bible does not say God helps those who help themselves. How classic is it that their support for him is based on a lie, even though it isn't one of his?
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Yeah the Bible doesn't say a particular phrase is derived from biblical concepts.

Have you not ever read a fable such as the fox and the fox and the sour grapes? You know when someone says sour grapes they're not referring to some fruit you ate right?
 
Geoist said:
And what does the Buddhist think about all this prosperity gospel garbage?
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I practice Buddhism as a practical manner. I'm no monk just simple bodi. The advantage of Buddhism is it's well thought out and concerned with living now ( 8 Fold Noble Path, etc).. So it's a guide for living (the Path) - nirvanaah is really not like salvation by a God.
It's just perfected karma that means no more rebirths (samsara)

As I age and death becomes more then an abstract thing down the road, I am drawn back to my old upbringing in Catholicism.
For Christianity (Islam as well) it's a sin to turn your back on Christ/Allah if you have ever believed He came as savior.

So I use Buddhism for living, but find myself praying Christian prayers when awful things are at my doorstep.
It's not exactly kosher, but i expanded my ideas to incorporate Buddhism for a good life and not just "Thou shall not" type commandments
It's a conflict yes..but it works for me
 
Geoist said:
Knock off the holier-than-thou bullshit. Everybody on this forum thinks they know what policies are best for everyone.
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Nope. I only care about what policies are good for me.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
Nope. I only care about what policies are good for me.
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Well that would be typical of a MAGA conservative: only thinking about what is best for himself when it comes to govt policy.

Kidding aside, it's still b.s. Conservatives are constantly getting their noses in everyone else's business/concerns.
 
Geoist said:
Well that would be typical of a MAGA conservative: only thinking about what is best for himself when it comes to govt policy.
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Lol, it sure as heck beats American Marxist thinking, which only thinks to screw everybody.
 
countryboy said:
Lol, it sure as heck beats American Marxist thinking, which only thinks to screw everybody.
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Well, it's a good thing I'm not a Marxist, then.
 
Geoist said:
Look at the man in my profile pic. That is Henry George: a writer and political economist who often traded insults with Karl Marx.

If you want to call me a leftist or anarchist, that is fine. But I'm not a Marxist.
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Those are distinctions without a difference. But hey, knock yourself out if playing semantics is what helps you sleep at night.
 
countryboy said:
Those are distinctions without a difference. But hey, knock yourself out if playing semantics is what helps you sleep at night.
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Entire books have been written on the differences. Countryboy, you have no clue what you are talking about. Stick to what you DO know.
 
Geoist said:
Entire books have been written on the differences. Countryboy, you have no clue what you are talking about. Stick to what you DO know.
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Bullshittery appears to be a maga subsistence crop. It may be all they know.
 
countryboy said:
Ah, so you don't actually have any original thoughts. You can't cite any of these so-called lies yourself? I have to click on a CNN link?
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LOL
Would not expect a Donnie tool to actually want to know he's been conned.
 
JMB1911A1 said:
More arrogance. Guess that is why Kamala is President-elect. :ROFLMAO:
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You're confusing knowledge with arrogance.
Your ilk elected a traitor.
That's just fact. And demonstrably so.
 
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