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For all of you trumpists who claimed 1/6 wasn't planned or no weapons - you're dead wrong! (1 Viewer)

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"Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages."

Oh and lookie here! Facing SEDITION CHARGES. What do you think our trumpist members? Sucks when all your lying arguments about a bunch of "unarmed people without a plan"

Sorry, guys. Trump and these oathkeepers are going down for sedition.
 

"Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages."

Oh and lookie here! Facing SEDITION CHARGES. What do you think our trumpist members? Sucks when all your lying arguments about a bunch of "unarmed people without a plan"

Sorry, guys. Trump and these oathkeepers are going down for sedition.
So, out fo the tens of thousands of attendees how many actually had weapons; and out of that number how many actually used the. Feel free to include covert FBI and other LEOs.
 
I mean, we've known that for example they were ordered not to search for weapons, etc. Just about everything was set to let this go off with the bare minimum (and I don't think it reached it) of plausible deniability.
 
"Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages."

Oh and lookie here! Facing SEDITION CHARGES. What do you think our trumpist members? Sucks when all your lying arguments about a bunch of "unarmed people without a plan"

Sorry, guys. Trump and these oathkeepers are going down for sedition.
Like most right-wing-nut protestations, we can file it all under implausible deniability.
 
So, out fo the tens of thousands of attendees how many actually had weapons; and out of that number how many actually used the. Feel free to include covert FBI and other LEOs.
Better yet....why don't YOU "feel free" to present ANY links or evidence in support of that bat-shat-crazy "FBI and other LEOs" conspiracy theory, @Bullseye

You people, with all of your fact-free conspiracy theories....are a blight on the American social/political fabric.

Lemme guess.....you believe "Q" is real, too, right?
 

"Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages."

Oh and lookie here! Facing SEDITION CHARGES. What do you think our trumpist members? Sucks when all your lying arguments about a bunch of "unarmed people without a plan"

Sorry, guys. Trump and these oathkeepers are going down for sedition.
So..."providing security" is illegal now?

Sorry, but you'll need more than this stuff to get you anything more than a nothingburger.
 
So..."providing security" is illegal now?
Stupid comment.

Someone needs to help you understand what seditious conspiracy means.


Sorry, but you'll need more than this stuff to get you anything more than a nothingburger.
:ROFLMAO:....says every Trump seditionist, everywhere....and NO ONE else.

Sorry, but you people (and your concerns) simply are not relevant in any/all decisions to be made related to protecting and sustaining liberal (small "L") democracy in this great country.
 
Stupid comment.

Someone needs to help you understand what seditious conspiracy means.



:ROFLMAO:....says every Trump seditionist, everywhere....and NO ONE else.

Sorry, but you people (and your concerns) simply are not relevant in any/all decisions to be made related to protecting and sustaining liberal (small "L") democracy in this great country.
shrug...

You can repeat a lie (sedition) as much as you want. There will always be people (me) who won't believe you.
 
I know.

I mean, what else can you people really say, at this point?

You've all been so thoroughly exposed as illiberal neo-fascist, white-nationalist and/or seditionist types that you are increasingly resorting to the last resort of all extremists: ACKNOWLEDGEMENT!

You can repeat a lie (sedition) as much as you want.
....says the white-nationalist/conspiracy theorist who supported a failed coup against his own government just a year ago.

Trump and his neo-fascist acolytes are seditionists and sedition supporters, just like their ideological forefathers (i.e. Confederate traitors and the Nazi/fascist sympathizers). Collectively, they are an absolute disgrace and a blight on the social/political fabric of American society. And they (i.e. you people) should be treated as such for as long as they live. They (i.e. you people) are the modern-day equivalents of the Confederate traitors of the Civil War and Nazi-sympathizers of WWII.

Hopefully, after this modern-day Fascist uprising has been put down/defeated, we (i.e. the decent American supporters of liberal democracy) will have learned the lessons of history from those two previous eras, so that we do NOT allow the seditionists (and their active supporters) to quietly reintegrate yourselves back into society without suffering appropriate consequences.



There will always be people (me) who won't believe you.
:ROFLMAO:....yes, there will always be people like you...seditionists, white-nationalists, ignorant conspiracy theorists, etc. etc......who ignore truth and cling to lies and propaganda.

But...you people don't count. America's future will ultimately be dictated by decent American, not by its neo-fascist/white-nationalist fringe.
 

"Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages."

Oh and lookie here! Facing SEDITION CHARGES. What do you think our trumpist members? Sucks when all your lying arguments about a bunch of "unarmed people without a plan"

Sorry, guys. Trump and these oathkeepers are going down for sedition.
I think an important factor here is to keep in mind that you are discussing this with very disingenuous people who are hiding their motives. If the crowd had gotten to Pelosi and shot her in the head and grabbed Mike Pence and hung him out back, you still wouldn't get many of them to condemn Jan. 6th. They would just change the line to "well Pelosi should have had more security" or defended the actions by saying it was a legitimate defense against a tyrannical government.
 

"Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages."

Oh and lookie here! Facing SEDITION CHARGES. What do you think our trumpist members? Sucks when all your lying arguments about a bunch of "unarmed people without a plan"

Sorry, guys. Trump and these oathkeepers are going down for sedition.
Those Oath Keepers look crazy themselves. Too bad they can't get along with Antifa and BLM -- what a force of destruction all those degenerates would be!
 
....says the white-nationalist/conspiracy theorist who supported a failed coup against his own government just a year ago.
I am none of that.

You are dismissed.
 
Those Oath Keepers look crazy themselves. Too bad they can't get along with Antifa and BLM -- what a force of destruction all those degenerates would be!
Antifa BLM. Deflect. It's not working.
 
I think an important factor here is to keep in mind that you are discussing this with very disingenuous people who are hiding their motives. If the crowd had gotten to Pelosi and shot her in the head and grabbed Mike Pence and hung him out back, you still wouldn't get many of them to condemn Jan. 6th. They would just change the line to "well Pelosi should have had more security" or defended the actions by saying it was a legitimate defense against a tyrannical government.
Oh, yes, of course. The Republicans have shown they've no problem trying to spin themselves out of trouble when they do something criminal. The past 5 years have proven that.
 

"Top members of the Oath Keepers now facing seditious conspiracy charges chatted for days about providing security for some of the highest-profile figures associated with Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election, according to a newly released trove of text messages."

Oh and lookie here! Facing SEDITION CHARGES. What do you think our trumpist members? Sucks when all your lying arguments about a bunch of "unarmed people without a plan"

Sorry, guys. Trump and these oathkeepers are going down for sedition.

From the article,
"several members of the group now facing charges notably flanked Stone on Jan. 5 — including Joshua James, who has since pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy "

" Ed Vallejo oversaw the group’s cache of weapons and was prepared to drive it to the Capitol if the fighting grew more intense."

It also covers correspondence between the Oath Keepers, the First Amendment Praetorian and Flynn. Stone was obviously involved, Bannon, Eastman and Guiliani. ( What a cast! )

If any of our friends here on DP previously posted that J6 was non violent , or a good rally gone bad, or just a kegger, or it was such a tiny percentage who caused the trouble out of the total number of people there, or that real patriots would never do that, I'm willing to forget all those posts.

The principal figures are friends of the white house who are tied to multiple groups that had weapons as a rapid response and extensive planning a month before the riot.

The op and the Politico article barely scrape the surface because there is a pile of sworn testimony in different courts of law over the last two years. The judge called it "well pleaded".
 
Planned/weapons, fact is, it should never have happened. Sit down and talk, protest peacefully, vote, don't act ba. sh.. crazy.
 

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