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No, you misunderstand what nationalism is.
Patriotism is all well and fine -- it's the belief that your country is great, and you've got pride in it. Nationalism, however, is dangerous and militant -- it is the belief that your country must be the best and you'd do anything to see it there.
Ultimately, that means nationalism just breeds hatred, xenophobia, militarism and isolation.
It is rule by means of popular sovereignty an example of what was happening during our revolution as well as France's revolution and the modern nation-state. I understand that the term has evolved into some demonic thing by others like yourself despite its well-known history, but it is a good "ism" to live by.
It hasn't evolved into anything. It depends entirely on the context that it's being used.
It hasn't evolved into anything. It depends entirely on the context that it's being used.
Don't be ridiculous. When it was first coined, it was referring to the phenomenon of the modern nation-state with regard to a group of people with shared characteristics desiring to have sovereignty instead of being ruled by some perceived foreign element. It was mostly a much later phenomenon that had the term connected with negative characteristics such as "excessive" pride, "xenophobia", and "militant".
Nationalism can also mean: "excessive patriotism; chauvinism" according to dictionary.com which is the context that I think it was being used in. At least, that was the context I intended.
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And usually when they try to use it in that context it is to make all nationalism look like Zig hiel or some other nazi ****. Not the belief that nations should act independently,synonymous with patriotism, or any of the other positive thing with nationalism.
Actually, no. You act like I am using the term to make a blanket statement about nationalism in every context. That's simply not true.
[/QUOTE]I don't know what else you would call a bunch of people trying to make others only fly American flags.
I call that nationalism, in the context that it is excessive patriotism.
It's one thing to fly an American flag and have love for your country, it's another to try and shove it down everyone else's throats and expect them to just ignore their culture and past.
That is a load of crap. When you only try to bring up the negative definitions in order to compare it to nazism, or say retarded **** like "Nationalism is outmoded." it shows your true colors. You all are globalist/internationalist so I expect you to try to demonize such things as loyalty to your country,patriotism and other things, but at least be honest about it.
I do not think anyone here is saying they should be forced to only fly American flags,check the poll results. What many of us are saying is that if you wish to be American then be a real American not a hyphenated American,after all you wouldn't be here if your or your parents or grandparents former country was all that great.
Not waving your former country's flag is not ignoring your culture and past, its called showing loyalty to your new country.
That is a load of crap. When you only try to bring up the negative definitions in order to compare it to nazism, or say retarded **** like "Nationalism is outmoded." it shows your true colors. You all are globalist/internationalist so I expect you to try to demonize such things as loyalty to your country,patriotism and other things, but at least be honest about it.
I do not think anyone here is saying they should be forced to only fly American flags,check the poll results. What many of us are saying is that if you wish to be American then be a real American not a hyphenated American,after all you wouldn't be here if your or your parents or grandparents former country was all that great.
Not waving your former country's flag is not ignoring your culture and past, its called showing loyalty to your new country.
Oh I forgot that liberals and globalist/internationalist think all cultures are equal to ours even countries that execute homosexuals and adulterers.
Where did I bring up Nazism? Also, there is a clear difference between being patriotic and being overly patriotic.
Please define a "real American". I wasn't aware that paying tribute to your culture and past made one a fake American.
Waving your former country's flag does not dictate one's patriotism to their new country.
Oh I forgot that liberals and globalist/internationalist think all cultures are equal to ours even countries that execute homosexuals and adulterers.
I'm a liberal, I'm very nationalistic, and my culture/country is better than all other, so your generalisation is false.
Its the usual globalist/internationalist tactic. Demonize patriotism/nationalism by trying to conjure up images of nazism.
This quote by Teddy Roosevelt should be a good clue for you.
There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.
Theodore Roosevelt
Waving the flag of their new country only shows that they are unpatriotic to their new country.
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