Florida will open schools to volunteer chaplains

[Loulit01]

Florida will open schools to volunteer chaplains

Florida school districts will soon have the option of allowing volunteer chaplains in as student counselors. Republican Gov.

apnews.com

Opponents cite several problems with the new Florida law, including there being no training requirements for chaplains. They also fear that some students might be ostracized if they are atheist or belong to a non-Christian religion in a Christian majority district. “When you have a military chaplain, they go through intensive training and they have to be in a position where they can provide information which is factually correct and appropriate to the situation,” said Democratic Sen. Lori Berman of Palm Beach County.

Without that training, a chaplain could provide psychologically damaging counseling, Berman said. She suggested schools add more social workers, guidance counsellors or psychologists if they need them. “Let’s put the trained professionals in and not some unlicensed, untrained people with a religious affiliation,” Berman said.
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What the **** is he up to now?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Florida will open schools to volunteer chaplains

Florida school districts will soon have the option of allowing volunteer chaplains in as student counselors. Republican Gov.

apnews.com

Opponents cite several problems with the new Florida law, including there being no training requirements for chaplains. They also fear that some students might be ostracized if they are atheist or belong to a non-Christian religion in a Christian majority district. “When you have a military chaplain, they go through intensive training and they have to be in a position where they can provide information which is factually correct and appropriate to the situation,” said Democratic Sen. Lori Berman of Palm Beach County.

Without that training, a chaplain could provide psychologically damaging counseling, Berman said. She suggested schools add more social workers, guidance counsellors or psychologists if they need them. “Let’s put the trained professionals in and not some unlicensed, untrained people with a religious affiliation,” Berman said.
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What the **** is he up to now?

This is an absolute violation of the separation of church and state. Rhonda Santis is attempting to force his religious beliefs on the rest of his population and it needs to cost him his job and his professional license.

Florida needs to face severe fines and loss of funding from the federal government until this crap stops.

 

[bongsaway]

The attack on Christianity, oh the horror of it all. What could possibly go wrong gov? Here comes the child predators with an open invitation.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Florida will open schools to volunteer chaplains

Florida school districts will soon have the option of allowing volunteer chaplains in as student counselors. Republican Gov.

apnews.com

Opponents cite several problems with the new Florida law, including there being no training requirements for chaplains. They also fear that some students might be ostracized if they are atheist or belong to a non-Christian religion in a Christian majority district. “When you have a military chaplain, they go through intensive training and they have to be in a position where they can provide information which is factually correct and appropriate to the situation,” said Democratic Sen. Lori Berman of Palm Beach County.

Without that training, a chaplain could provide psychologically damaging counseling, Berman said. She suggested schools add more social workers, guidance counsellors or psychologists if they need them. “Let’s put the trained professionals in and not some unlicensed, untrained people with a religious affiliation,” Berman said.
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What the **** is he up to now?

Option.

They will soon have the 'option' of having the pastor of their faith counsel their own children.

I have no problem with that. If people want to instill a superstition in their children, feel free.

See you in the heaven that doesn't exist

 

[Grand Mal]

Florida will open schools to volunteer chaplains

Florida school districts will soon have the option of allowing volunteer chaplains in as student counselors. Republican Gov.

apnews.com

Opponents cite several problems with the new Florida law, including there being no training requirements for chaplains. They also fear that some students might be ostracized if they are atheist or belong to a non-Christian religion in a Christian majority district. “When you have a military chaplain, they go through intensive training and they have to be in a position where they can provide information which is factually correct and appropriate to the situation,” said Democratic Sen. Lori Berman of Palm Beach County.

Without that training, a chaplain could provide psychologically damaging counseling, Berman said. She suggested schools add more social workers, guidance counsellors or psychologists if they need them. “Let’s put the trained professionals in and not some unlicensed, untrained people with a religious affiliation,” Berman said.
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What the **** is he up to now?

Considering how often 'youth pastors' are in the news and why, it seems pretty dumb to give them access to a school full of children.

 

[Slavister]

"Florida is among more than a dozen states that have sought to create school chaplain programs. Texas became the first under a law passed in 2023."

“No one’s being forced to do anything, but to exclude religious groups from campus, that is discrimination,” DeSantis said. “You’re basically saying that God has no place. That’s wrong.”

No, dummie DeSantis, YOU are wrong.

 

[mrjurrs]

Florida will open schools to volunteer chaplains

Florida school districts will soon have the option of allowing volunteer chaplains in as student counselors. Republican Gov.

apnews.com

Opponents cite several problems with the new Florida law, including there being no training requirements for chaplains. They also fear that some students might be ostracized if they are atheist or belong to a non-Christian religion in a Christian majority district. “When you have a military chaplain, they go through intensive training and they have to be in a position where they can provide information which is factually correct and appropriate to the situation,” said Democratic Sen. Lori Berman of Palm Beach County.

Without that training, a chaplain could provide psychologically damaging counseling, Berman said. She suggested schools add more social workers, guidance counsellors or psychologists if they need them. “Let’s put the trained professionals in and not some unlicensed, untrained people with a religious affiliation,” Berman said.
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What the **** is he up to now?

FL parents...move to another state before your student's adult life is ruined.

 

[Jezcoe]

And he is already saying that he wants to violate the Constitution by excluding Satanists.

'Not a religion': Florida Gov. DeSantis signs school chaplain bill, says Satanists not welcome

Ron DeSantis just signed a bill allowing for Florida school chaplains. Satanists want to participate. DeSantis says no: "That is not a religion."

www.tallahassee.com

There is 100% going to be a court fight.

 

[BirdinHand]

Man, this country gets weirder and weirder

 

[Lisa]

Call the Satanists and pagans, so they get equal time.

The Satanic Temple - Official Website

The Satanic Temple encourages benevolence and empathy, rejects tyrannical authority, advocates practical common sense, opposes injustice, and undertakes noble pursuits. The Satanic Temple uses Satan as a symbol of the eternal rebel fighting arbitrary authority and oppressive social norms.

thesatanictemple.com

What is Wicca? A Beginner's Guide to the Wiccan Religion – Wicca Living

In today's guide, we try to answer the simple question: What is Wicca? You will find information about the Goddess and the God, Magic, and Wicca's origins.

wiccaliving.com

And he is already saying that he wants to violate the Constitution by excluding Satanists.

'Not a religion': Florida Gov. DeSantis signs school chaplain bill, says Satanists not welcome

Ron DeSantis just signed a bill allowing for Florida school chaplains. Satanists want to participate. DeSantis says no: "That is not a religion."

www.tallahassee.com

There is 100% going to be a court fight.

The ACLU and the FFRF will be on this case like white on rice. That check will have 5 zeros on it.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

"(c) Require written parental consent before a student participates in or receives supports, services, and programs provided by a volunteer school chaplain. Parents must be permitted to select a volunteer school chaplain from the list provided by the school district, which must include the chaplain's religious affiliation, if any."

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I can't find anything to object to in this Bill.

 

[Lisa]

"(c) Require written parental consent before a student participates in or receives supports, services, and programs provided by a volunteer school chaplain. Parents must be permitted to select a volunteer school chaplain from the list provided by the school district, which must include the chaplain's religious affiliation, if any."

Link

I can't find anything to object to in this Bill.

The separation of church and state gets pissed on by this legislation. Public schools are not to be a recruiting ground for religions.

 

[roguenuke]

Option.

They will soon have the 'option' of having the pastor of their faith counsel their own children.

I have no problem with that. If people want to instill a superstition in their children, feel free.

See you in the heaven that doesn't exist

That should only happen outside of school, not in any public schools. Take that to church or your own home.

 

[roguenuke]

"(c) Require written parental consent before a student participates in or receives supports, services, and programs provided by a volunteer school chaplain. Parents must be permitted to select a volunteer school chaplain from the list provided by the school district, which must include the chaplain's religious affiliation, if any."

Link

I can't find anything to object to in this Bill.

They shouldn't be there at all. Public schools should not have religious leaders of any kind as part of their staff, even volunteers, when that is part of their reason for being there.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

The separation of church and state gets pissed on by this legislation. Public schools are not to be a recruiting ground for religions.

No such thing is happening. These individuals are not able to recruit.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

They shouldn't be there at all. Public schools should not have religious leaders of any kind as part of their staff, even volunteers, when that is part of their reason for being there.

You should contact your representative in Tallahassee. Their reason to be there is to be available should a parent choose to utilize their skills.

 

[roguenuke]

No such thing is happening. These individuals are not able to recruit.

They shouldn't be there at all. They are not properly trained school counselors and they can recruit while there, even if just indirectly through students they are allowed to counsel in school.

 

[roguenuke]

You should contact your representative in Tallahassee. Their reason to be there is to be available should a parent choose to utilize their skills.

Doesn't matter. The parent can invite them to their home. Public school is not where religious leaders should be.

 

[Lisa]

No such thing is happening. These individuals are not able to recruit.

Inviting religious minsters into public schools is an attempt to recruit kids. Religious belief is for private time. Maybe a mandatory semester of logic and mythology will put and end to this nonsense.

 

[Phys251]

Florida will open schools to volunteer chaplains

Florida school districts will soon have the option of allowing volunteer chaplains in as student counselors. Republican Gov.

apnews.com

Opponents cite several problems with the new Florida law, including there being no training requirements for chaplains. They also fear that some students might be ostracized if they are atheist or belong to a non-Christian religion in a Christian majority district. “When you have a military chaplain, they go through intensive training and they have to be in a position where they can provide information which is factually correct and appropriate to the situation,” said Democratic Sen. Lori Berman of Palm Beach County.

Without that training, a chaplain could provide psychologically damaging counseling, Berman said. She suggested schools add more social workers, guidance counsellors or psychologists if they need them. “Let’s put the trained professionals in and not some unlicensed, untrained people with a religious affiliation,” Berman said.
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What the **** is he up to now?

Once again, Flori-duh shows that it is unable to self-govern properly. This needs to be taken to federal court.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Doesn't matter. The parent can invite them to their home. Public school is not where religious leaders should be.

How inclusive of you. I don't exclude people from public locations because of their religion. I don't want their religious beliefs imposed on anyone. Neither of which will happen under this law.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Inviting religious minsters into public schools is an attempt to recruit kids. Religious belief is for private time. Maybe a mandatory semester of logic and mythology will put and end to this nonsense.

Where is your opinion represented in the law?

 

[roguenuke]

How inclusive of you. I don't exclude people from public locations because of their religion. I don't want their religious beliefs imposed on anyone. Neither of which will happen under this law.

Public schools should not have any affiliation with churches, separation of church and state. That's part of our Constitution.

Under this law, the government is endorsing religion, favoring religion in fact, by not requiring the same background, credentials as it requires for a non religious person to be a counselor in their school. That is absolutely favoring religion. And DeSantis trying to ban Satanist chaplains reinforces this.

 

[Lisa]

How inclusive of you. I don't exclude people from public locations because of their religion. I don't want their religious beliefs imposed on anyone. Neither of which will happen under this law.

A public school is not open to the general public for the purpose of free speech to a group of people who are required to attend 7 hours a day. .

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Public schools should not have any affiliation with churches, separation of church and state. That's part of our Constitution.

Under this law, the government is endorsing religion, favoring religion in fact, by not requiring the same background, credentials as it requires for a non religious person to be a counselor in their school. That is absolutely favoring religion. And DeSantis trying to ban Satanist chaplains reinforces this.

The law favors no religion, you are imposing your restrictions on others. How ironic. Nothing mandatory, no freedom to recruit. This is strictly voluntary, requiring parental consent for any contact.

Parental consent is an acceptable reason that makes this reasonable, to those who are reasonable.

Are you going to continue ad nauseum, as per usual?