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For the record, if you support bills like this, I do hate you. I hate you and hate everything you stand for. You and people who think like you are responsible for some of the most horrific actions of humanity. If you think this statement is "uncivil" I don't care.
Damn, my state of Alabama is beginning to feel more liberal as I watch what is happening in that weird state south of me...
Right! At least before, our state motto was “At Least We Aren’t Mississippi!”
Looks like we may have to change that.
Thank gawd for Florida
Hell, tons from your state moved to FL.Damn, my state of Alabama is beginning to feel more liberal as I watch what is happening in that weird state south of me...
These Florida elected representatives passed this without fear of reprisal. Which could mean the districts are gerrymandered and/or the constituencies are as reactionary as the reps…
Gerrymandered, and they have a supermajority in both chambers.
They don't give a single ****.
The entire point of this is setting a precedent of taking people's kids away if they don't stay in line.Shitting on Trans kids for votes.
Moral panics is all they have to run on.
[snip]Florida Republicans Pass Bill Allowing Trans Kids to Be Removed From Their Families
This is just the latest anti-trans bill passed in the state, but it’s among the most dangerous.newrepublic.com
Florida’s House of Representatives passed a bill Wednesday that would let the state take transgender minors away from their families if they are receiving gender-affirming care.
The measure passed by a vote of 82-31. A previous version of the bill passed the Senate earlier this month by a vote of 27-12, and the amended version now goes back to the other chamber for a final vote. Governor Ron DeSantis has previously expressed support for the bill and will likely sign it into law if it passes.
If it becomes law, the bill will allow the state to take custody of the child if they have been “subjected to or is threatened with being subjected to” gender-affirming care, which includes puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy. Florida courts could modify custody agreements from a different state if the minor is likely to receive gender-affirming care in that second state. The text refers to gender-affirming care as “sex-reassignment prescriptions or procedures” and qualifies this care as a form of “physical harm.”...
...A little more than an hour earlier, the House passed a bill banning drag performances, which heads to DeSantis’s desk.
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I posted a thread about this bill when it was first introduced. There was some doubt back then that it would pass, or if it did pass that it would be instantly overturned. Well, here we are. When DeSantis signs this bill into law (and he certainly will) Florida is basically impossible to even visit for transgender children or parents. It allows the state to take custody of a child even if they are "at risk" of receiving gender affirming care. One of the stated "risks" is if either parent/guardian is trans even if the child is not.
Honestly I feel sick. There are thousands of transgender kids in FL. If their families are supportive they can try to flee the state or try to hide that they are trans. If there are trans parents/guardians who have kids or have adopted kids the state will take their kids into custody as well, and they also need to flee.
How long in the age of social media and mass surveillance until the state starts spying on kids/parents to try to find transgender kids? My partner is nonbinary. How long until they are considered "mentally ill" and forcibly "institutionalized" by the state? Despite my fears about where these laws were heading...I'd hoped I was wrong and it would never come to this...
It's pretty fascinating to watch, though terrible for the people who will be affected by this absurd form of personal micromanagement. From a choice perspective this is an odd one for the Florida GOP, since it flies in the face of parental choice in how they care for their children. I can understand this kind of legislation if there were cases of parents forcing gender affirming care on children, because at least then there's a case to be made on behalf of children; this is not that though.State power (authoritarian) at its finest.
I thought the right didn't like the government butting into their private lives. I thought the right didn't want an all-powerful government body dictating how they should live and who they can love.
Just more right-wing lies. Just like always.
Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican.
It's pretty fascinating to watch, though terrible for the people who will be affected by this absurd form of personal micromanagement. From a choice perspective this is an odd one for the Florida GOP, since it flies in the face of parental choice in how they care for their children. I can understand this kind of legislation if there were cases of parents forcing gender affirming care on children, because at least then there's a case to be made on behalf of children; this is not that though.
The state has taken upon itself to deprive parents of options that could benefit their children through gender affirming care. The important thing to note is this is not law yet, but if it does become law, it's one based on value judgments of some portion of the population and not a medical/psychological one. This continues the trend of "you have choice, but the ones we allow you to have" form of governance.
It isn't an odd choice at all. They hate queer people more than they love parental choice. That's all there is to it.From a choice perspective this is an odd one for the Florida GOP, since it flies in the face of parental choice in how they care for their children.
[snip]Florida Republicans Pass Bill Allowing Trans Kids to Be Removed From Their Families
This is just the latest anti-trans bill passed in the state, but it’s among the most dangerous.newrepublic.com
Florida’s House of Representatives passed a bill Wednesday that would let the state take transgender minors away from their families if they are receiving gender-affirming care.
The measure passed by a vote of 82-31. A previous version of the bill passed the Senate earlier this month by a vote of 27-12, and the amended version now goes back to the other chamber for a final vote. Governor Ron DeSantis has previously expressed support for the bill and will likely sign it into law if it passes.
If it becomes law, the bill will allow the state to take custody of the child if they have been “subjected to or is threatened with being subjected to” gender-affirming care, which includes puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy. Florida courts could modify custody agreements from a different state if the minor is likely to receive gender-affirming care in that second state. The text refers to gender-affirming care as “sex-reassignment prescriptions or procedures” and qualifies this care as a form of “physical harm.”...
...A little more than an hour earlier, the House passed a bill banning drag performances, which heads to DeSantis’s desk.
[snip]
I posted a thread about this bill when it was first introduced. There was some doubt back then that it would pass, or if it did pass that it would be instantly overturned. Well, here we are. When DeSantis signs this bill into law (and he certainly will) Florida is basically impossible to even visit for transgender children or parents. It allows the state to take custody of a child even if they are "at risk" of receiving gender affirming care. One of the stated "risks" is if either parent/guardian is trans even if the child is not.
Honestly I feel sick. There are thousands of transgender kids in FL. If their families are supportive they can try to flee the state or try to hide that they are trans. If there are trans parents/guardians who have kids or have adopted kids the state will take their kids into custody as well, and they also need to flee.
How long in the age of social media and mass surveillance until the state starts spying on kids/parents to try to find transgender kids? My partner is nonbinary. How long until they are considered "mentally ill" and forcibly "institutionalized" by the state? Despite my fears about where these laws were heading...I'd hoped I was wrong and it would never come to this...
If it becomes law, the bill will allow the state to take custody of the child if they have been “subjected to or is threatened with being subjected to” gender-affirming care, which includes puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy.
The text refers to gender-affirming care as “sex-reassignment prescriptions or procedures” and qualifies this care as a form of “physical harm.”...
Greivance and panic concerning gender, race and historyThey wanted parental choice for themselves, and only themselves.
So what's your point?If it becomes law, the bill will allow the state to take custody of the child if they have been “subjected to or is threatened with being subjected to” gender-affirming care, which includes puberty blockers and hormone replacement therapy.
The text refers to gender-affirming care as “sex-reassignment prescriptions or procedures” and qualifies this care as a form of “physical harm.”...
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