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So many people think the 2nd amendment is to defend yourself against your own government. It is not. Those "founding fathers" are talking about Britain, not the colonists.Randy Fine is correct about the reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms - - he just chose a bad way to convey the message.
"Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace." - James Madison (Federalist Papers)
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson
The Founder's intent for the Right to keep and bear Arms is crystal clear
Complete nonsense.Randy Fine is correct about the reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms
"....a bad way to convey the message"??- - he just chose a bad way to convey the message.
That part of your argument has never been in question.The Founder's intent for the Right to keep and bear Arms is crystal clear - they meant for us to have guns in the event that our government became oppressive tyrants and no longer protected and preserved our Rights.
Flori-duh
BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. —
Florida Rep. Randy Fine sparked some concern on Twitter Wednesday with a vaguely threatening message directed at President Joe Biden.
'You'll learn': Florida representative raises eyebrows with Second Amendment message to Biden
The tweet quickly amassed thousands of replies with multiple people tagging the Secret Service, interpreting the message as a direct threat against the president.www.wesh.com
Lock him up!
Oh, it's there. You have chosen to ignore it.Complete nonsense.
There is nothing in the 2A which prohibits regulations and limitations...and/or grants unlimited rights to any/every type of firearm. . .
Fine's way of conveying the message was bad. I was clear on that.Only one side thinks it's ok to verbally threaten a president, it seems. . .
What most Americans believe is irrelevant. The U.S. Constitution is Law. Thankfully, popular opinion does not make our Laws. Congress does.. . . Most Americans do NOT believe a ban on assault weapons is "tyranny", regardless of what people like Fine personally believe. So, he's not "correct" at all....except to those who share his MINORITY view. . . .
I think it you who are confused.Any/all arguments that the 2A is "crystal clear" about modern day gun control issues...is either confused (at best), or dishonest (at worst).
Secret service needs to pay him a visit.
BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. —
Florida Rep. Randy Fine sparked some concern on Twitter Wednesday with a vaguely threatening message directed at President Joe Biden.
'You'll learn': Florida representative raises eyebrows with Second Amendment message to Biden
The tweet quickly amassed thousands of replies with multiple people tagging the Secret Service, interpreting the message as a direct threat against the president.www.wesh.com
Lock him up!
As long as you're in the militia.h, it's there. You have chosen to ignore it.
The Bill of Rights prohibits the government from taking away (or imposing infringements on) 10 unalienable Rights.
The right to keep and bear arms is the second of these enumerated rights.
It explicitly states:
". . .the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Randy Fine is correct about the reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms - - he just chose a bad way to convey the message.
"Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace." - James Madison (Federalist Papers)
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson
The Founder's intent for the Right to keep and bear Arms is crystal clear - they meant for us to have guns in the event that our government became oppressive tyrants and no longer protected and preserved the Rights of citizens.
How is that a lie.“Literally threatened to kill Joe Biden”
What a lie.
I have no idea what you are referring to here.I dunno. You guys weren't calling that guy who shot those Republican legislators a patriot, which really speaks to the absurdity of the notion.
Who do you think you are kidding? You and what army of militias are going to stand up to our military in a confrontation? It's such an asinine idea it's frightening.Randy Fine is correct about the reason citizens have the right to keep and bear arms - - he just chose a bad way to convey the message.
"Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace." - James Madison (Federalist Papers)
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson
The Founder's intent for the Right to keep and bear Arms is crystal clear - they meant for us to have guns in the event that our government became oppressive tyrants and no longer protected and preserved the Rights of citizens.
Huh? why on Earth would we do that?. . . Should we dissolve our standing army?
Trump? How the heck did Trump wiggle into this discussion?We all know the press is the enemy of the people according to trump and his trumpettes and now they're coming for our guns....be afraid, be very afraid.
You are conflating the "spirit of resistance" (what Jefferson referred to) and political activism (BLM demonstrations). Of course, these are very different things.According to many on the right, our government right now with biden at the helm is tyranny! You guys are funny, the spirit of resistance, unless of course it's blm marching in the streets, that just will not do.
Of course they are different things, when your side protests like on january the sixth it was deemed appropriate political discourse by those in the know. When floyd's murder sparked the blm movement, it was a bunch of hoodlums out of control burning and looting destroying whole cities.Huh? why on Earth would we do that?
Trump? How the heck did Trump wiggle into this discussion?
You are conflating the "spirit of resistance" (what Jefferson referred to) and political activism (BLM demonstrations). Of course, these are very different things.
Tell that to sheep herders in AfghanistanWho do you think you are kidding? You and what army of militias are going to stand up to our military in a confrontation? It's such an asinine idea it's frightening.
Should we dissolve our standing army? We all know the press is the enemy of the people according to trump and his trumpettes and now they're coming for our guns....be afraid, be very afraid.
According to many on the right, our government right now with biden at the helm is tyranny! You guys are funny, the spirit of resistance, unless of course it's blm marching in the streets, that just will not do.
"Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace." - James Madison (Federalist Papers)
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson
The Founder's intent for the Right to keep and bear Arms is crystal clear - they meant for us to have guns in the event that our government became oppressive tyrants and no longer protected and preserved the Rights of citizens.
Or, perhaps more likely.....you've chosen to imagine it?Oh, it's there. You have chosen to ignore it.
The Bill of Rights prohibits the government from taking away (or imposing infringements on) 10 unalienable Rights.
Nonsense. You can't take a "strict constructionist" or "literalist" or "minimalist" view of the Constitution....and cherry pick from the script of the 2A.The right to keep and bear arms is the second of these enumerated rights.
It explicitly states:
". . .the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Again, pure b.s. And that's been pure b.s. for as long as the SCOTUS has been ruling on 2A issues.
So if (federal) government passes laws which make it difficult (or impossible) for a citizen to keep and bear arms, then that is, de facto, an infringement.
You were clear about your position as an apologist for Trumpism. That's for sure.Fine's way of conveying the message was bad. I was clear on that.
What most Americans believe is irrelevant. The U.S. Constitution is Law. Thankfully, popular opinion does not make our Laws. Congress does.
...says the guy who doesn't know wtf he's talking about.If Congress doesn't like Amendment II, then they can repeal or amend it.
Well, this is another example of your confusion. You see, this is not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of objective reasoning. I've seen your arguments. They are nothing by feelings and opinions, backed up by NOTHING. Heck, you don't even know what's in the Bill of Rights.I think it you who are confused.
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