Finally!! -- A New Political Book That Doesn't Coddle Racist Rural White Trump Voters

[ALiberalModerate]

So. Libs now hate the rural poor as much as they hate white males in general and Jews in particular.

Not to mention their hatred towards the inherent power of the states over the federal gargantuan. [see the ignored Tenth Amendment of the Constitution]

1. The vast majority of Jews in America are liberal.

2. Those racists marching around with torches yelling "Jews will not replace us", are Trump supporters.

3. The "6 million wasn't enough" and "Team Auschwitz" t-shirt wearers on 1/6, again Trump supporters.

4. The guy that had a Nazi over for dinner, wasn't Joe Biden, again, that would be Trump.

 

[volitleaire]

I didnt say that capitalists were unified. Most German capitalists were in favor of Hitler because he satisfied their class interests. I am not saying it is counter revolutionary because i think only socialist revolutions are revolutions. I am saying fascism in general is a counter revolutionary force with revolutionary fervor. One of their top goals was to prevent a socialist revolution in Germany which was growing before they took power. Capitalism often goes hand in hand with imperialism.

Im sorry but that is a myth. Christianity often very much went hand in hand with ideas of racial superiority and the antebellum slavery was based in biblical law. Christians often persecuted eachother.

The protestant reformation itself was started by a seething antisemite.

You seem to think the number one priority of fascism is preventing communism. It is not. Preventing socialism is simply a means to an ends. Hitler saw socialism (or judeo-bolshevism as he called it) as a threat to the German race. I am not denying that many industrialists would rather live under a fascist regime than a socialist one, I am arguing that fascism and socialism are predicated on the same fallacy: that of objective historical laws. You have not touched this topic, as it is irrefutable. They’re the same story with different characters.

Again, you say fascism is “counter revolutionary”, it is only counter revolutionary to other ideologies. just as socialist revolution is “counter revolutionary” to fascism. The very idea of counter-revolution is based in the idea that communist revolution is the next historical step. It is not. There is no laws that history follows, there is no guarantee that socialism is the next paradigm.

Christianity has nothing to do with race. While christians have prosecuted other based on race, this is not because they were christians, it’s because people are racist. We can point out any belief system and pick the worst of their ranks to paint any belief as racist. As I said, both Protestant and Catholic pastors were arrested because they spoke out against nazism. Hitler saw any international faith as a potential danger to the state, and did not base any of his beliefs on the bible.

Imperialism has no preference for race, economics, religion, or ideology. Imperialism happens because a state believes they have right by military conquest to land/resources. The British didn’t conquer the world based on the idea of free markets or spreading the faith, they conquered the world because they had the power to do so. Likewise, the Soviet Union didn’t invade Ukraine to spread the revolution, they did it because they had the power to.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

What?

Another book written by so-called "Liberals" (actually progressive-socialists) attacking an entire class of people in order to demonize them and thereby seek to dismiss their concerns, needs, and views? Followed by comparisons to historical figures of "evil intent?"

Typical Leftist tactics. Lable, denigrate, demonize to create fear of, then blame for all (or a good portion of) perceived social ills.

Another page from the "Moral Panic" identify-and-burn-the-witch mindset of the socialist hive mind.

Silly OP, foolish points, not worth further comment.

Does Trump ever denigrate and demonize? The utter lack of self-awareness with y'all is astounding.

 

[bomberfox]

You seem to think the number one priority of fascism is preventing communism. It is not. Preventing socialism is simply a means to an ends. Hitler saw socialism (or judeo-bolshevism as he called it) as a threat to the German race. I am not denying that many industrialists would rather live under a fascist regime than a socialist one, I am arguing that fascism and socialism are predicated on the same fallacy: that of objective historical laws. You have not touched this topic, as it is irrefutable. They’re the same story with different characters.

Again, you say fascism is “counter revolutionary”, it is only counter revolutionary to other ideologies. just as socialist revolution is “counter revolutionary” to fascism. The very idea of counter-revolution is based in the idea that communist revolution is the next historical step. It is not. There is no laws that history follows, there is no guarantee that socialism is the next paradigm.

Christianity has nothing to do with race. While christians have prosecuted other based on race, this is not because they were christians, it’s because people are racist. We can point out any belief system and pick the worst of their ranks to paint any belief as racist. As I said, both Protestant and Catholic pastors were arrested because they spoke out against nazism. Hitler saw any international faith as a potential danger to the state, and did not base any of his beliefs on the bible.

Imperialism has no preference for race, economics, religion, or ideology. Imperialism happens because a state believes they have right by military conquest to land/resources. The British didn’t conquer the world based on the idea of free markets or spreading the faith, they conquered the world because they had the power to do so. Likewise, the Soviet Union didn’t invade Ukraine to spread the revolution, they did it because they had the power to.

Its because they arent the same creature. Christianity had a lot to do with race in the very early years. Slavery was both based in biblical laws and the curse of Ham.

It doesnt matter if you can find racism in any other religion as that does not disprove anything.

 

[bomberfox]

Its also objectively true mussolini admitted fascism is counter revolutionary lol. To say christianity had nothing to do with racism is also foolish. You arent using any historical sources and using “nuh uh! Every other thing in this category has this!” Lame arguments bruh.

 

[bomberfox]

You seem to think the number one priority of fascism is preventing communism. It is not. Preventing socialism is simply a means to an ends. Hitler saw socialism (or judeo-bolshevism as he called it) as a threat to the German race. I am not denying that many industrialists would rather live under a fascist regime than a socialist one, I am arguing that fascism and socialism are predicated on the same fallacy: that of objective historical laws. You have not touched this topic, as it is irrefutable. They’re the same story with different characters.

Again, you say fascism is “counter revolutionary”, it is only counter revolutionary to other ideologies. just as socialist revolution is “counter revolutionary” to fascism. The very idea of counter-revolution is based in the idea that communist revolution is the next historical step. It is not. There is no laws that history follows, there is no guarantee that socialism is the next paradigm.

Christianity has nothing to do with race. While christians have prosecuted other based on race, this is not because they were christians, it’s because people are racist. We can point out any belief system and pick the worst of their ranks to paint any belief as racist. As I said, both Protestant and Catholic pastors were arrested because they spoke out against nazism. Hitler saw any international faith as a potential danger to the state, and did not base any of his beliefs on the bible.

Imperialism has no preference for race, economics, religion, or ideology. Imperialism happens because a state believes they have right by military conquest to land/resources. The British didn’t conquer the world based on the idea of free markets or spreading the faith, they conquered the world because they had the power to do so. Likewise, the Soviet Union didn’t invade Ukraine to spread the revolution, they did it because they had the power to.

Actually counter-revolution does not need to assume that socialism is the next step, just for socialism to be the primary threat that the counter revolutionary force is against. The white army was a counter revolutionary force

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

If you’ve found yourself waiting for wealth to trickle your way, the problem doesn’t lie with either political party.

Since it was literally called "trickle down economics".....it actually is the fault of Reagan and this moronic conservative economic theory. DUHHH!

 

[ralfy]

I didnt say that capitalists were unified. Most German capitalists were in favor of Hitler because he satisfied their class interests. I am not saying it is counter revolutionary because i think only socialist revolutions are revolutions. I am saying fascism in general is a counter revolutionary force with revolutionary fervor. One of their top goals was to prevent a socialist revolution in Germany which was growing before they took power. Capitalism often goes hand in hand with imperialism.

Im sorry but that is a myth. Christianity often very much went hand in hand with ideas of racial superiority and the antebellum slavery was based in biblical law. Christians often persecuted eachother.

The protestant reformation itself was started by a seething antisemite.

Not just Germans but also several American, Swedish, etc., capitalists. And several came from countries that by then saw themselves as democracies after engaging in imperialism.

 

[ralfy]

1. The vast majority of Jews in America are liberal.

2. Those racists marching around with torches yelling "Jews will not replace us", are Trump supporters.

3. The "6 million wasn't enough" and "Team Auschwitz" t-shirt wearers on 1/6, again Trump supporters.

4. The guy that had a Nazi over for dinner, wasn't Joe Biden, again, that would be Trump.

In addition, many Jews are part of Israel, which many liberals don't want to support due to accusations of genocide.

 

[ralfy]

Its because they arent the same creature. Christianity had a lot to do with race in the very early years. Slavery was both based in biblical laws and the curse of Ham.

It doesnt matter if you can find racism in any other religion as that does not disprove anything.

I also recall reading that many enslaved were also whites, which is why "slavery" must have been derived from "slav".

 

[ralfy]

Since it was literally called "trickle down economics".....it actually is the fault of Reagan and this moronic conservative economic theory. DUHHH!

It's likely that which led to the growth of the U.S. middle class after trade deficits started becoming chronic during the mid-1970s. Earlier, conventional oil production peaked, together with real wages.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This book about Trump voters goes for the jugular​

In ‘White Rural Rage,’ Tom Schaller and Paul Waldman examine why so many remain loyal to a party that does little to help them.​

A couple of excerpts --

“Never before in American politics has a single syllable ("TRUMP") carried so much symbolic weight,” the authors write in a chapter they title “The Unlikely King of Rural America.” “‘TRUMP’ is thrust at liberals, chanted at high school games when the opposing team contains a lot of non-White kids, shouted in the air, and scrawled on the sidewalk, carrying boundless aggression in its percussive simplicity. It says I’m mad and We’re winning and Screw you all at the same time.”

How did it come to this?

Maybe it starts with the preferred status rural Americans have long enjoyed as the country’s “real” Americans. It’s not coastal elites who think they are better than everyone else, but heartlanders. And the funny thing is that coastal elites have always tended to agree with them. The authors quote Thomas Jefferson, who wrote that “cultivators of the earth are the most valuable citizens. They are the most vigorous, the most independent, the most virtuous, and they are tied to their country and wedded to its liberty and interests by the most lasting bands.”

By key measures, the authors write, rural White voters pose a quadruple threat to democracy: They are more likely than average Americans, or even average White Americans, to have racist and xenophobic tendencies; to accept violence in pursuit of their beliefs; to believe conspiracy theories; and to nurture antidemocratic ideas.

Not all rural White Americans hold these attitudes, Schaller and Waldman concede. But they “are overrepresented across all four of these threats,” and that’s what animates their status as what the authors call the “essential minority.”

It’s not that the authors discredit legitimate grievances. They dutifully document how the country — the modern world — has abandoned rural America. People who live there are demonstrably worse off than their urban and suburban cousins. Good health care, good jobs, good schools and even good WiFi are scarce; drug addiction, gun suicide and crime are plentiful (yes, Oklahoma does have a higher violent crime rate than New York or California).

But what Schaller and Waldman also document, scrupulously, is how much outsize power rural White voters have but squander on “culture war trinkets.” Wyoming has two senators for not quite 600,000 people; California’s two serve around 39 million. The way our democracy is set up — not just its lopsided Senate but also its thumb-on-the-scale electoral college — rural Americans could be its biggest beneficiaries, if not its drivers. They are not. They are not even its biggest fans, in Schaller and Waldman’s telling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2024/03/07/white-rural-rage-schaller-waldman-reivew/

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Ohhh, Anti-white bigotry.

How stunning.

How brave.

Not since Nazi Germany has a political party had the courage to establish a scapegoat as a focal point of hatred, Today's democrat party fills the void left by Hitler and his minions...

 

[Uncensored2008]

So. Libs now hate the rural poor as much as they hate white males in general and Jews in particular.

Not to mention their hatred towards the inherent power of the states over the federal gargantuan. [see the ignored Tenth Amendment of the Constitution]

The use of the scapegoat to focus hatred upon, the focal point to blame all ills in society upon is as old as history. Yes, democrats and Hitlers Nazis are some of the more egregious examples - but the use of ethnic or racial groups such as Whites or Jews is a long tradition among those who are patently evil.

50 years ago democrats hated blacks as much as they hate whites today. If you look at the filth like the book in the OP - it's no different than the KKK literature democrats published in the 1940's.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

It's likely that which led to the growth of the U.S. middle class after trade deficits started becoming chronic during the mid-1970s. Earlier, conventional oil production peaked, together with real wages.

Bullshit. Trickle-down economics has NEVER worked. Period. Middle class wages have been stagnant since the late 1970s.

 

[volitleaire]

Actually counter-revolution does not need to assume that socialism is the next step, just for socialism to be the primary threat that the counter revolutionary force is against. The white army was a counter revolutionary force

You call anything opposed to socialism “counter-revolutionary”. This shows that you believe socialism to be the next revolution. There is no reason for this to be true. Fascism, as I explained, is every bit as revolutionary as communism. It rejects democracy, equality, limited government, etc. It is fundamentally opposed to a liberal democracy, just like socialism.

The white army was a counter-revolutionary force. Not because they fought against communists, but because they sought to preserve the status quo.

 

[RIP U.S. Democracy]

Ohhh, Anti-white bigotry.

How stunning.

How brave.

Not since Nazi Germany has a political party had the courage to establish a scapegoat as a focal point of hatred, Today's democrat party fills the void left by Hitler and his minions...

"Anti-white bigotry" because the book is pointing out how full of shit white rural Trump supporters are? Nope.

 

[bomberfox]

You call anything opposed to socialism “counter-revolutionary”. This shows that you believe socialism to be the next revolution. There is no reason for this to be true. Fascism, as I explained, is every bit as revolutionary as communism. It rejects democracy, equality, limited government, etc. It is fundamentally opposed to a liberal democracy, just like socialism.

The white army was a counter-revolutionary force. Not because they fought against communists, but because they sought to preserve the status quo.

Ummm thats the reason i called the white army a counter revolutionary force.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/522288

It opposes the new thing that was becoming a revolutionary force all around europe. Liberalism and on the flipside communism.

 

[Nickyjo]

So. Libs now hate the rural poor as much as they hate white males in general and Jews in particular.

Not to mention their hatred towards the inherent power of the states over the federal gargantuan. [see the ignored Tenth Amendment of the Constitution]

Liberals hate Jews? I thought people hated Jews because they were so liberal.

The 10th Amendment has been “honored more in the breach” — as the man said — than in adherence to it. Americans are eminently practical: corporations, Blacks, environmentalists, et al. have looked to the feds when states dropped the ball, the Tenth notwithstanding.

But I am curious. Had anyone advanced lawsuit suggesting that DC shouldn’t do this or that based on the Tenth Amendment?

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

Its because they arent the same creature. Christianity had a lot to do with race in the very early years. Slavery was both based in biblical laws and the curse of Ham.

It doesnt matter if you can find racism in any other religion as that does not disprove anything.

The Bible does not support racism. Not in the least.

 

[Noodlegawd]

After working with the rural poor for many years, honestly this makes a lot of sense. The amount of distrust they have towards anything outside of their world I have seen is staggering. I don't think most of them want violence, but when the world gives them so little, of course they're going to be angry and upset. Also the racism-just the racism makes so much sense now.

Do you think they are more racist than poor urban African Americans?

 

[Uncensored2008]

"Anti-white bigotry" because the book is pointing out how full of shit white rural Trump supporters are? Nope.

If you look at the shameful history of the democrat party, a pattern emerges. When Andrew Jackson founded the party, their first major act was "The Trail of Tears." The party solidified power by ginning up hatred of the Indians. Then we have the democrat foundational institution of slavery. democrats and slavery are synonymous and always will be. After Republicans defeated the democrats in the first civil war and forced them to free the people they held as slaves, the democrats responded by forming the KKK - an early version of BLM - terrorists who attacked Republicans, and later used freed black slaves as the scapegoat. Now, nearly 200 years later, the democrats haven't changed even a tiny bit. They import millions of slaves through the open border - there are more slaves in America now than before Republicans defeated democrats in 1864. And of course democrats AGAIN have a scapegoat - this time rather than Indians or freed blacks, the filthy party has designated whites as the people to hate, and to blame all the ills of the world upon. Anything that is wrong is the fault of the white devils.

Racism is the heart of the democrat party - always has been, always will be.

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

If you look at the shameful history of the democrat party, a pattern emerges. When Andrew Jackson founded the party, their first major act was "The Trail of Tears." The party solidified power by ginning up hatred of the Indians. Then we have the democrat foundational institution of slavery. democrats and slavery are synonymous and always will be. After Republicans defeated the democrats in the first civil war and forced them to free the people they held as slaves, the democrats responded by forming the KKK - an early version of BLM - terrorists who attacked Republicans, and later used freed black slaves as the scapegoat. Now, nearly 200 years later, the democrats haven't changed even a tiny bit. They import millions of slaves through the open border - there are more slaves in America now than before Republicans defeated democrats in 1864. And of course democrats AGAIN have a scapegoat - this time rather than Indians or freed blacks, the filthy party has designated whites as the people to hate, and to blame all the ills of the world upon. Anything that is wrong is the fault of the white devils.

Racism is the heart of the democrat party - always has been, always will be.

lol...what a joke. I noticed Trump was open arms to Neonazis at his little party the other day. I also remember Trump calling the KKK members fine people after the
Charlottesville demonstration 7 years ago. No today's MAGA movement has set back progress made in that area. They own it. I also noticed that Trump wanted nothing to do with visiting George Floyd's family after he was murdered by 4 white cops, It was Democrats that actually visited the grieving family. Yout schtick has gotten stale.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Liberals hate Jews?

Leftists, democrats sure do.

I thought people hated Jews because they were so liberal.

Look at the radical left hate sites, Young Turds, Raw Sewage, etc. Turn on the Marxist propaganda outlets, CNN, MSNBC. Hatred of Jews/Israel is a huge part of the left.

The left faces a reckoning as Israel divides Democrats

The divide on the left about Israel is not new, but it has never been so visible.

www.nbcnews.com

The 10th Amendment has been “honored more in the breach” — as the man said — than in adherence to it. Americans are eminently practical: corporations, Blacks, environmentalists, et al. have looked to the feds when states dropped the ball, the Tenth notwithstanding.

But I am curious. Had anyone advanced lawsuit suggesting that DC shouldn’t do this or that based on the Tenth Amendment?

Thousands of lawsuits over federal overreach have been successfully waged over the years.

This specifically cites the 10th.

Supreme Court Rejects EPA Overreach in WOTUS Case | U.S. Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa

BUTLER COUNTY, IOWA – Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) today praised the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision...

www.grassley.senate.gov

 

[Uncensored2008]

lol...what a joke. I noticed Trump was open arms to Neonazis at his little party the other day. I also remember Trump calling the KKK members fine people after the
Charlottesville demonstration 7 years ago. No today's MAGA movement has set back progress made in that area. They own it. I also noticed that Trump wanted nothing to do with visiting George Floyd's family after he was murdered by 4 white cops, It was Democrats that actually visited the grieving family. Yout schtick has gotten stale.

I notice that Marxist democrats tend to ignore facts and rely on demagoguery.

When presented with facts regarding the institutional racism of the filthy party, democrats just chant hate mantras against Emmanuel Goldstein, rather than addressing the subject matter.

 

[CaughtInThe]

One gets the sense the book could have been more easily titled “Progressives Pleasuring Themselves.”

It pisses you off. That's very telling.