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Fifty Shades Of Grey Is Unreadable Crap

If you wish to learn more about BDSM by reading, and by this I am referring mainly to "play", not "lifestyle", I recommend the books of Jay Wiseman, whom I know and trust.

Jay Wiseman

However,

If you have no prior experience with BDSM, you might not intuit this very important fact: no BDSM "play" is 100% safe. Not bondage, not spanking, nothing. Porn will never, ever teach you what you need to know, so GO SLOW and keep eyes on your partner at all times. Jay's a California lawyer who sadly, spends most of his time testifying as an expert witness at the murder trials of people who accidently killed their partners in play.
 
Wasn't "Shades of Grey" a Star Trek episode? I remember that was crap too.
 
specklebang said:
So, we strongly agree and that makes me want to ask you for a few of the BEST books you read. Prefer modern authors and "speculative" fiction. Please?
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The best erotic fiction I ever read was written by Anais Nin.

Anaïs Nin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pauline Réage isn't bad, for the 1950's, but you need a powerful lot of suspended belief to read her stuff.

Pauline Reage: books by Pauline Reage @ BookFinder.com

Tami Hoag has written a few mysteries with a BDSM backstory that're kind of fun.

BookFinder.com: Search Results (Matching Titles)

But overall, the genre' is rather thin and could certainly use some new blood -- one reason I was excited to hear that James had made a splash.

Alas, more like a puddle IMO.
 
The only way Fifty Shades of Gray can be good:

If it's read by the voice of Duke Nukem.
 
Pinkie said:
The "sex scenes" were not like any sex I ever had -- or ever heard of.
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You need to expand your reading material. Alternatively if you want to be scared of sex (may just apply to guys), and never read erotica again go watch the Serbian Film or read 120 Days of Sodom.
 
0bserver92 said:
You need to expand your reading material. Alternatively if you want to be scared of sex (may just apply to guys), and never read erotica again go watch the Serbian Film or read 120 Days of Sodom.
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Ever browsed on Literotica.com?

After the ponygirl stories, I feel shock-proof, but if you think these are even stranger, I'll give 'em a gander.
 
0bserver92 said:
The only way Fifty Shades of Gray can be good:

If it's read by the voice of Duke Nukem.
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Before I even played the vid, I said to myself, "I'll give it 1:1 odds that they'll read something about blushing and/or 'inner goddess.'" I won, but the payout was bad.
 
Pinkie said:
Ever browsed on Literotica.com?

After the ponygirl stories, I feel shock-proof, but if you think these are even stranger, I'll give 'em a gander.
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Well here is a quote form a review "took his still hard rod, and rammed it through his skull! Twelve inches of pure man!" The entire movie is ****ed up but the most disturbing is when the director yells "I've created a new genre, Newborn Porn!" To the director of this film ponygirl is softcore.
 
0bserver92 said:
Well here is a quote form a review "took his still hard rod, and rammed it through his skull! Twelve inches of pure man!" The entire movie is ****ed up but the most disturbing is when the director yells "I've created a new genre, Newborn Porn!" To the director of this film ponygirl is softcore.
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Eye bleach! I need eye bleach!

I so did not need to know that, dear.
 
Pinkie said:
Eye bleach! I need eye bleach!

I so did not need to know that, dear.
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It will scare you out of wanting to read erotica ever again. It's also why you don't watch it, you only watch people who have already watched it.
 
BTW, not to toot my own writer's horn, but specklebang has not been seen since I PM'd him a link to onna my stories.

Coincidence?

Mayhaps.........mayhaps not.

Just sayin'....................







(If anyone else would like the link, lemme know.)
 
0bserver92 said:
It will scare you out of wanting to read erotica ever again. It's also why you don't watch it, you only watch people who have already watched it.
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S'rly. I thought being bored snotless was the biggest risk.
 
Pinkie said:
BTW, not to toot my own writer's horn, but specklebang has not been seen since I PM'd him a link to onna my stories.

Coincidence?

Mayhaps.........mayhaps not.

Just sayin'....................







(If anyone else would like the link, lemme know.)
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What was the link to?
 
tessaesque said:
I'd say Twilight was worse, but they both had the same problems.
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Given that the book started out as Twilight fan fic, not really surprising.

molten_dragon said:
It's extraordinarily narcissistic of you to claim your writing is better than that of a woman who has sold 40 million books. Clearly her writing is more in line with what people like than yours is, or you would be similarly successful would you not?
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There is a difference between what is good and what is popular. Of course since both are opinion based statuses...

Pinkie said:
IDK, either. My stuff is not obscene, but it's also not child-friendly. I haven't really thought about it.

If you want to read one, say so and I'll PM a link to you.
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Sign up to Fetlife.com and post your works there. That is certainly catering to the appropriate crowd. Plus if your stuff really is good it will end up on the Kinky & Popular section, so you will have more objective proof of how good your writing is.

Pinkie said:
If you wish to learn more about BDSM by reading, and by this I am referring mainly to "play", not "lifestyle", I recommend the books of Jay Wiseman, whom I know and trust.

Jay Wiseman

However,

If you have no prior experience with BDSM, you might not intuit this very important fact: no BDSM "play" is 100% safe. Not bondage, not spanking, nothing. Porn will never, ever teach you what you need to know, so GO SLOW and keep eyes on your partner at all times. Jay's a California lawyer who sadly, spends most of his time testifying as an expert witness at the murder trials of people who accidently killed their partners in play.
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Better yet hook up with a group that has an education series. You'll find them in the larger cities for sure and even some of the smaller groups, like mine, have them. For that matter I am the Educational Coordinator for my group.
 
maquiscat said:
Given that the book started out as Twilight fan fic, not really surprising.



There is a difference between what is good and what is popular. Of course since both are opinion based statuses...



Sign up to Fetlife.com and post your works there. That is certainly catering to the appropriate crowd. Plus if your stuff really is good it will end up on the Kinky & Popular section, so you will have more objective proof of how good your writing is.



Better yet hook up with a group that has an education series. You'll find them in the larger cities for sure and even some of the smaller groups, like mine, have them. For that matter I am the Educational Coordinator for my group.
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I agree with you about attending live seminars, but many never will. If people are gonna try what they read or see, I'd feel the most comfortable with Jay's stuff -- his standard is whether he'd feel okay allowing his own (adult) child to try it on, given the information he's provided -- and he and I agree that some practices can never be made safe enough to justify trying.
 
First of all, I didn't read it. But lots of crappy novels get published, especially erotic novels. To me, what's more exciting is the idea that BDSM is becoming socially accepted. Maybe within 10 years, there will be BDSM themed soap operas. I'm sure those will be crappy too, but that's hardly the point.

Pam
 
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