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Fetterman doesn't appear to want to debate Dr. Oz

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Normally, I'd say a candidate was scared to debate someone if they refused to accept the challenge. To me, it would drop that candidate significantly to see him or her back away from a debate.

But do you think this is really fair in this case? Fetterman has recently had a stroke, and his speech has been impaired due to this. With time, the ability will likely come back, but right now he still seems to be struggling.

Of course some then some would doubt his fitness for the office, but speaking ability is not required for the job. I don't see any other indication that he would not be fit for a Senatorial role.

What's your opinion?

(FYI, this is just an interest case since Fetterman and Oz are not candidates in my own state)
 
It is cost/benefit. Is the cost of debating greater than the benefit? If it is, that is a big red flag.
 
I have been disappointed in debates for quite a long time. Rarely does a candidate give a straight answer to a question.

A debate between Fetterman and Oz may just be a clown show. It would give Oz a platform to continue his bs.

In Arizona there may not be a Governor debate between Hobbs and Lake. Hobbs has said she may not debate because she doesn't want to give Lake a platform to promote the stolen election bs and other issue.

At this point in time I could care less about debates. One can research enough about a person running for office to decide if they are worth my vote.
 
I think Fetterman should just come right out and say that as things stand now he is having issues with word retrieval but has no cognitive issues and a debate would be difficult...or something to that effect. He should also have a medical person there to attest to his verbal vs cognitive issues and the prognosis. The best move for him is straight-up honesty that is what he is known for and I think it would reinforce that much wanted trait in politicians. Persons who want to falsely attack him for this and try and equate it to mental cognitive damage or as I have seen it described here a "fried brain" are despicable and listening to too much Hannity who absolutely despises Fetterman.
 
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mike2810 said:
I have been disappointed in debates for quite a long time. Rarely does a candidate give a straight answer to a question.

A debate between Fetterman and Oz may just be a clown show. It would give Oz a platform to continue his bs.

In Arizona there may not be a Governor debate between Hobbs and Lake. Hobbs has said she may not debate because she doesn't want to give Lake a platform to promote the stolen election bs and other issue.

At this point in time I could care less about debates. One can research enough about a person running for office to decide if they are worth my vote.
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Yeah, debates have progressively turned into shit shows in the modern era, just as televised Congressional hearings when people like Jim Jordan and the likes are involved.
 
I don't vote in PA, so I have no dog in this fight, but Dr. Oz has absolutely no business being in the senate.
I would vote for a stroke survivor that is still struggling, over him, any day of the week.
Kind of like when John Ashcroft lost to a dead person when running for re-election for Sen. out of Missouri.
Sometimes you do what you have to do and vote for the dead guy.
 
I doubt that debates do much for candidates anymore, sadly. You're more likely to have a Governor Smartglasses moment than to win over new voters.
 
Callen said:
I think Fetterman should just come right out and say that as things stand now he is having issues with word retrieval but has no cognitive issues. He should also have a medical person there to attest to his verbal vs cognitive issues and the prognosis. The best move for him is straight-up honesty that is what he is known for and I think it would reinforce that much wanted trait in politicians. Persons who want to falsely attack him for this and try and equate it to a mental decline are scum.
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Funny part is that even if Fetterman has some issues, he is still more electable and coherent than Oz.. Then again a blind monkey would be at this point after Oz many many many many mistakes.
 
mike2810 said:
I have been disappointed in debates for quite a long time. Rarely does a candidate give a straight answer to a question.

A debate between Fetterman and Oz may just be a clown show. It would give Oz a platform to continue his bs.

In Arizona there may not be a Governor debate between Hobbs and Lake. Hobbs has said she may not debate because she doesn't want to give Lake a platform to promote the stolen election bs and other issue.

At this point in time I could care less about debates. One can research enough about a person running for office to decide if they are worth my vote.
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Hobbs needs to debate and take control. She can talk about Lake supporting a rabid anti-semite that was running in another state, Lake's blatant hypocrisy about drag queens, Lake's silly election denial, Lake not saying anything about Trump's FBI woes, or what is going on in GA.

I get why she doesn't want to debate, but she needs to. She needs to troll back everything that Fake Lake has pulled.
 
Callen said:
I think Fetterman should just come right out and say that as things stand now he is having issues with word retrieval but has no cognitive issues and a debate would be difficult...or something to that effect. He should also have a medical person there to attest to his verbal vs cognitive issues and the prognosis. The best move for him is straight-up honesty that is what he is known for and I think it would reinforce that much wanted trait in politicians. Persons who want to falsely attack him for this and try and equate it to mental cognitive damage or as I have seen it described here a "fried brain" are despicable and listening to too much Hannity who absolutely despises Fetterman.
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Aside from that, every sane person knows that Oz is a well trained smooth talker without much substance. If voters are unaware of that, perhaps they should just stay home on election day.
 
Debates between politicians should be done online in a format like this forum. Let them argue back and forth with everything in writing. That would get rid of the bullshit grandstanding, and would allow the candidates to provide evidence for their assertions.
 
aociswundumho said:
Debates between politicians should be done online in a format like this forum. Let them argue back and forth with everything in writing. That would get rid of the bullshit grandstanding, and would allow the candidates to provide evidence for their assertions.
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No meme use allowed?

;)
 
aociswundumho said:
Debates between politicians should be done online in a format like this forum. Let them argue back and forth with everything in writing. That would get rid of the bullshit grandstanding, and would allow the candidates to provide evidence for their assertions.
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nah
 
Airyaman said:
Normally, I'd say a candidate was scared to debate someone if they refused to accept the challenge. To me, it would drop that candidate significantly to see him or her back away from a debate.

But do you think this is really fair in this case? Fetterman has recently had a stroke, and his speech has been impaired due to this. With time, the ability will likely come back, but right now he still seems to be struggling.

Of course some then some would doubt his fitness for the office, but speaking ability is not required for the job. I don't see any other indication that he would not be fit for a Senatorial role.

What's your opinion?

(FYI, this is just an interest case since Fetterman and Oz are not candidates in my own state)
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I frankly had not checked on Fetterman's condition after his stroke, but if it caused temporary speech impairment, him communicating via twitter with the option for staff to check his work makes more sense.

Hopefully he recovers though, because at some point he'll need to make more speeches and debate Oz.
 
Airyaman said:
Normally, I'd say a candidate was scared to debate someone if they refused to accept the challenge. To me, it would drop that candidate significantly to see him or her back away from a debate.

But do you think this is really fair in this case? Fetterman has recently had a stroke, and his speech has been impaired due to this. With time, the ability will likely come back, but right now he still seems to be struggling.

Of course some then some would doubt his fitness for the office, but speaking ability is not required for the job. I don't see any other indication that he would not be fit for a Senatorial role.

What's your opinion?

(FYI, this is just an interest case since Fetterman and Oz are not candidates in my own state)
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Debates have previously been important to campaigns. Imo, the lie fest masked as a debate has made them worthless over the last 6 years. At all levels of govt.
 
Airyaman said:
But do you think this is really fair in this case? Fetterman has recently had a stroke, and his speech has been impaired due to this. With time, the ability will likely come back, but right now he still seems to be struggling.
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No, he's past the 3 month mark and his ability to speak is not likely to come back if/since it didn't, already, during that 3 month period.
 
Bok_Tukalo said:
It is cost/benefit. Is the cost of debating greater than the benefit? If it is, that is a big red flag.
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If you've heard Fetterman speak recently, you'd realize that cost would be huge.
 
gbg3 said:
No, he's past the 3 month mark and his ability to speak is not likely to come back if/since it didn't, already, during that 3 month period.
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I assume you're a neurologist or SLP then?
 
Airyaman said:
What's your opinion?
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I think debates are a waste of time. I respect folks who refuse to debate. I can't understand why you say you generally think less of someone who prefers not to debate.

All people, candidates have different strengths, weaknesses. A debate can favorer one candidate over another simply because of format.

Now, in this day and age, we also have teh problem of the Trump style debate. The child like name calling and disputing of facts. WTF is the point of talking to someone like that?
 
mrjurrs said:
Debates have previously been important to campaigns. Imo, the lie fest masked as a debate has made them worthless over the last 6 years. At all levels of govt.
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I had not yet read this post. Read mine, just above. Same.
 
Fetterman can only hurt himself by the debate, Keeping him out of stressful speaking situations is working
 
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