- Joined
- Aug 27, 2005
- Messages
- 43,602
- Reaction score
- 26,256
- Location
- Houston, TX
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Conservative
PORT FOURCHON, La. — Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday that federal authorities have opened criminal and civil investigations into the nation's worst oil spill, and BP lost billions in market value when shares dropped in the first trading day since the company failed yet again to plug the gusher.
Investors presumably realized the best chance to stop the leak was months away and there was no end in sight to the cleanup. As BP settled in for the long-term, Holder announced the criminal probe, though he would not specify the companies or individuals that might be targeted.
"We will closely examine the actions of those involved in the spill. If we find evidence of illegal behavior, we will be extremely forceful in our response," Holder said in New Orleans.
This isn't some spilled wine on a carpet. You can't clean up this kind of mess over night. This oil spill is the size of a state. If you have any plan on how to actually realistically clean it up give it to us.where's the CLEANUP, mr president?
I believe that I am about to take a very unpopular position here, but I take this position because of logic, not emotion.
OK, civil investigations? I can go with that. BP cut a lot of corners, misled the public, and in general, acted like complete douche bags. Sue them.
But for the criminal investigations, I have some questions. Which laws of the land did BP violate? Did they commit perjury by lying under oath? Did they offer any kind of hush money to keep the extent of the spill secret? Doesn't look like it to me.
I have a strong feeling that this is not so much about finding out if BP broke the law, but to mitigate the political damage to Obama over this incident, and also to have a scapegoat to point at. Yes, BP needs to be held accountable for the damage they caused, and made to pay a price, but a witch hunt of any kind is going to be detrimental to finding a solution that will keep this from ever happening again.
I will follow the discussion here, as I put on my flame proof suit. :mrgreen:
Article is here.
The seal was supposed to close after the explosion. However, the seal broke.
BP is a lot of things right now, but I have a hard time with the word "criminal", just as you do. It implies that this was intentional, calculated, and malicious. And as big of an f-up as this is, I don't find it to be any of those.
how 'bout we, umm...
GET STARTED
where's the NATIONAL MOBILIZATION
where's the EXCITEMENT for CLEANING
the ENTHUSIASM
WE CAN DO THIS!
SI SE PUEDE!
the presidential putz hasn't even MENTIONED the WORD
he's too busy fundraising, going on vacation, going on marv albert, going to state dinners, playing hoops with the blue devils...
he still hasn't TALKED to a FISHERMAN
a HOTEL OWNER
a BOOKING AGENT
how 'bout we, umm...
GET STARTED
where's the NATIONAL MOBILIZATION
where's the EXCITEMENT for CLEANING
the ENTHUSIASM
WE CAN DO THIS!
SI SE PUEDE!
the presidential putz hasn't even MENTIONED the WORD
he's too busy fundraising, going on vacation, going on marv albert, going to state dinners, playing hoops with the blue devils...
he still hasn't TALKED to a FISHERMAN
a HOTEL OWNER
a BOOKING AGENT
he was in an out of the gulf in 3 hours friday, so eager to get back to chicago, his kind of town
but his team, a bunch of lawyers, reveals their instinct, their proclivity...
pathetic
obama is gonna get SKEWERED for not appearing to be ON the cleanup, 42 days, 17 hours...
he just doesn't get it
Asking for things to be done, or started at this point is just pure political posturing
But for the criminal investigations, I have some questions. Which laws of the land did BP violate? Did they commit perjury by lying under oath? Did they offer any kind of hush money to keep the extent of the spill secret? Doesn't look like it to me.
I have a strong feeling that this is not so much about finding out if BP broke the law, but to mitigate the political damage to Obama over this incident, and also to have a scapegoat to point at. Yes, BP needs to be held accountable for the damage they caused, and made to pay a price, but a witch hunt of any kind is going to be detrimental to finding a solution that will keep this from ever happening again.
unbelievable
tell it to carville, matthews, jindal, landrieu, plaquemines parish prez nungesser, the army corps of engineers, the coast guard official who said he was just "slow and dumb," the waitress on grand isle, the charter boat captain, the boom workers in terrebonne parish, afp, politico, abc, the wsj...
tell it to carville, matthews, jindal, landrieu, plaquemines parish prez nungesser, the army corps of engineers, the coast guard official who said he was just "slow and dumb," the waitress on grand isle, the charter boat captain, the boom workers in terrebonne parish, afp, politico, abc, the wsj...
tell it to carville
what's "being done" today is the preparation of a lawsuit
tell it to carville
what's "being done" today is the preparation of a lawsuit
The government can multitask. They can clean up the oil and bring BP to justice at the same time, and they ARE doing both.
And who is BP? A bunch of overworked, highly paid, highly specialized specialists? The CEO? The Board of Directors? The Chief Boardmember? Stockholders? The sub-contractor who was drilling the well? The individuals who bought the likely defective parts? Those who made the likely defective parts?
Everyone responsible for this multi-billion dollar screw-up.
Obama, too? The various regulatory agencies that missed the boat on this one?
Did Obama have anything to do with this? I honestly doubt that one. But the regulators who turned their backs should be held responsible.
Asking for things to be done, or started at this point is just pure political posturing
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?