You are wrong Sir, the president is NOT picking and choosing which laws to enforce. He picking individuals who come forward and identifying who they are and they must be crime free.
You are wrong Sir, the president is NOT picking and choosing which laws to enforce. He picking individuals who come forward and identifying who they are and they must be crime free.
How does he know, you're kidding right? He knows when the alien applies for the status.
That's a load of BS and you know it. He's picking and choosing what to enforce - which by definition in the legal world is called prosecutorial discretion.You are wrong Sir, the president is NOT picking and choosing which laws to enforce.
President Obama is not picking what laws are valid and worth of support, he is using Prosecutorial discretion which in a nutshell means he can choose who to prosecute and those who he will not prosecute.
Prosecutorial discretion refers to the fact that under American law, government prosecuting attorneys have nearly absolute powers. A prosecuting attorney has power on various matters including those relating to choosing whether or not to bring criminal charges, deciding the nature of charges, plea bargaining and sentence recommendation. This discretion of the prosecuting attorney is called prosecutorial discretion.
The decision by the Texas judge is only temporary.
You Can Find One Judge To Do Anything, Immigration Edition by Ed Kilgore | Political Animal | The Washington Monthly
That's a load of BS and you know it. He's picking and choosing what to enforce - which by definition in the legal world is called prosecutorial discretion.
Baloney! The President said the individuals must be crime free (besides crossing the border) and must pass a background check. He still is prosecuting those people who are breaking ou laws. There are laws against speeding. Either the cop or the judge can dismiss your "crime" against speeding depending on how much you were over the speed limit.
You are exactly right, that's what he is doing. Thanks!
I especially like the Admin's reasoning that they have been granted the authority by Congress and the Courts to use discretion as to how the Laws are applied.
The Judge said bull****, you're ignoring the Law.
He also noted something I had been wondering about.
Obama keeps saying if Congress would only act He<sic> wouldn't have to.
That sure as hell implies Obama is taking actions he knows he's not entitled to, and has even said so many many times..
You are exactly right, that's what he is doing. Thanks!
Baloney! The President said the individuals must be crime free (besides crossing the border) and must pass a background check. He still is prosecuting those people who are breaking ou laws. There are laws against speeding. Either the cop or the judge can dismiss your "crime" against speeding depending on how much you were over the speed limit.
List the prosecutions and when they were initiated.
Again you are comparing individual discretion against blanket policy. The cop who busts you for speeding has the discretion to let you off for REASON. Like your wife is giving birth and you need to get to the hospital, or whatever. A cop can decide to not prosecute for marijuana possession for many reasons based on the facts of THAT particular incident involving that particular set of circumstances.
It is not a blanket pardon.
You still have not provided Obama's alleged parameters as published...and when you say "Obama says" I hear wind whistling though a coal mine, they man says a lot and very, very little of that is even reality...."If you like your plan..." kind of makes the words out of his mouth into a kind of head fart
Here you go F&L:
Now here is the thing. We expect people who live in this country to play by the rules. We expect those who cut the line will not be unfairly rewarded. So we’re going to offer the following deal: If you’ve with been in America more than five years. If you have children who are American citizens or illegal residents. If you register, pass a criminal background check and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes, you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation. You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. That’s what this deal is.
Now let’s be clear about what it isn’t. This deal does not apply to anyone who has come to this country recently. It does not apply to anyone who might come to America illegally in the future. It does not grant citizenship or the right to stay here permanently, or offer the same benefits that citizens receive. Only Congress can do that. All we’re saying is we’re not going to deport you.
Transcript: Obama’s immigration speech
Except that's NOT prosecutorial discretion. That is amnesty. Even if you believe the "temporarily" part of what he says, and we know he lies like a rug.
- What is Prosecutorial Discretion?
- When is Prosecutorial Discretion Used in Immigration Enforcement?
- Who Exercises Prosecutorial Discretion?
- Is Prosecutorial Discretion Always Case by Case?
- What Influences a Decision to Exercise Prosecutorial Discretion?
- What Factors Does ICE Currently Use Ehen Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion?
- Do the June 17 Prosecutorial Discretion Memo or the New Guidelines Provide Additional Forms of Relief?
- Is Prosecutorial Discretion a New Idea in Immigration Enforcement?
- Is Prosecutorial Discretion the Only Authority the Executive Branch has to Affect the Immigration Laws?
- Do Members of Congress Recognize Prosecutorial Discretion as An Executive Branch Authority?
- Conclusion
When is Prosecutorial Discretion Used in Immigration Enforcement? ▲
Prosecutorial discretion may be exercised at any stage of an immigration case. Specifically, prosecutorial discretion may be exercised when deciding whether to: issue a detainer; initiate removal proceedings; focus enforcement resources on particular violations or conduct; stop, question, or arrest a particular person; detain or release someone on bond, supervision, or personal recognizance; settle or dismiss a removal case; stay a final order of removal; pursue an appeal; and/or execute a removal order. Examples of the favorable exercise of prosecutorial discretion in the immigration context include a grant of deferred action; a decision to terminate or administratively close removal proceedings; a stay of removal; or a decision not to issue a charging document in the first place.
The Justice Dept. plans to waste even more tax payer's money by appealing this ruling to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Federal Judge Stalls Obama’s Executive Action on Immigration
Obama seems more interested in working with despots and others who threaten the USA than he does his own Congress or our allies.
Federal judge temporarily blocks Obama's immigration executive action
I'm sorry but "commonsense policies to help fix our broken immigration system" is a legislative action constitutionally reserved only to Congress. Maybe the emperor should read/respect Article II, Section 3, Clause 5 "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" and Article II, Section 3, Clause 2 "recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient". You'd think he was familiar with these areas of the Constitution.
Here you go F&L:
Now here is the thing. We expect people who live in this country to play by the rules. We expect those who cut the line will not be unfairly rewarded. So we’re going to offer the following deal: If you’ve with been in America more than five years. If you have children who are American citizens or illegal residents. If you register, pass a criminal background check and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes, you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation. You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. That’s what this deal is.
Now let’s be clear about what it isn’t. This deal does not apply to anyone who has come to this country recently. It does not apply to anyone who might come to America illegally in the future. It does not grant citizenship or the right to stay here permanently, or offer the same benefits that citizens receive. Only Congress can do that. All we’re saying is we’re not going to deport you.
Transcript: Obama’s immigration speech
Hey F&L, if you don't like what I gave you well.......................... tough ****!I ask for the published documentation on the parameters of the amnesty program and you give the text of a speech by the most dishonest and decietful politician in the US!
Perhaps you missed it when I wrote that what Obama "says" is about as relevant as dog **** on a hamburger..
Obama has also said "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan", "I learned about it on TV just like you", "it was a spontaneous demonstration", "I will close Gitmo", "Mine will be the most open and accountable administration in United States history", and other favorites....
So, don't present me with words from the single most deceitful man in the US government as proof of anything more than Obama can read a teleprompter and lie with absolute conviction......
He made law here, where the **** is it?
:agree: We do not have a broken immigration system. What is broken is the enforcement of our immigration laws! How stupid does Obama think we are?
Hey F&L, if you don't like what I gave you well.......................... tough ****!
Here you go F&L:
Now here is the thing. We expect people who live in this country to play by the rules. We expect those who cut the line will not be unfairly rewarded. So we’re going to offer the following deal: If you’ve with been in America more than five years. If you have children who are American citizens or illegal residents. If you register, pass a criminal background check and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes, you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation. You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. That’s what this deal is.
Now let’s be clear about what it isn’t. This deal does not apply to anyone who has come to this country recently. It does not apply to anyone who might come to America illegally in the future. It does not grant citizenship or the right to stay here permanently, or offer the same benefits that citizens receive. Only Congress can do that. All we’re saying is we’re not going to deport you.
Transcript: Obama’s immigration speech
WTF? !! He is choosing who to prosecute based on what laws are valid and worthy of his support? All laws are valid or no one would have to obey any of them! Care to revise your statement, since it doesn't make sense?
Supreme Court here it comes.
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